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**Agamemnon2**

That's a lot of metal...

**George Spiggott**

It's made of resin apparently.

**Aduro**

They're advertised as Resin. (i called it)

**Gr3y**

George Spiggott wrote:

http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-03-2011

I actually like it much more now I've seen the actual model.

The Butcher is right there! Get 'em Rowdy, get 'em!

**skrulnik**

I like the model. It fits Khador to a tee.

Anybody else think of Attack of the Show's "EPIC FAIL!!" segment when they saw the pic?

Not because of the model, but because of what is going to happen when those horses tromp forward not seeing the trench.
Kinda like a Grocery cart hitting a curb.
Those horses are going to have a baad day.

**Bakerofish**

if it rolls down that hill will it be a slam attack or a trample?

**skrulnik**

Trample on the Trenchers, Slam on the horses, and a Collapse on the wagon, I wager.

**BrookM**

Shame that the kit uses two identically posed horses.

**Vertrucio**

They're Khadorian War horses with steam powered armor to augment them. They could jump that trench without knowing it was there, and take the gun carriage with them. If there's anything khador has besides big jacks, it's big damn horses.

**Dysartes**

BrookM wrote:Shame that the kit uses two identically posed horses.

I do have to agree with you there, BrookM. On the upside, I doubt that it'll be an issue with the Cryx or Cygnar ones, at least.

**insaniak**

BrookM wrote:Shame that the kit uses two identically posed horses.

That's one of the problems I have with it.

The others being that it looks like it should have at least a couple more of them... and it needs to be on a bigger base, so that horses can be positioned far enough in front of the front wheels to not be pulled under the thing the moment they extend their back legs...

**warpcrafter**

Nothing any of you naysayers here say will stop me from getting one of these magnificent icons of destruction. Especially if it's resin and not metal.

**Laughing Man**

warpcrafter wrote:Nothing any of you naysayers here say will stop me from getting one of these magnificent icons of destruction. Especially if it's resin and not metal.

*cough*

Will Schick wrote:Not only are these the largest models ever produced by Privateer Press (just take a look at the picture below!), they are also the first resin models that will be available through regular distribution.

*cough*

**SpacePanzee**

em_en_oh_pee wrote:
warpcrafter wrote:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:Another gimmick from PP that I am not happy with. Seems like a new way to add further expense to the game. I would guess these will be must-have units or some such that will re-define the game and its formats, etc.

I suppose I shouldn't complain about a dynamic company, but sometimes I worry about the whole MtG eventuality my friends and I are waiting for. We may be wrong, but until we are proven so, we just stick to GW games.

Squats, the Lost and the Damned, Imperial Guard jetbikes, squig catapults, affordable resin titans from Armorcast. Shall I go on?

All of those are still playable, just like a rotated Magic card. Also, the models can be used to Count-As plenty of things. . . . . .

GW doesn't really "rotate" stuff. They do new books and models, but they rarely say "You can't use that!".

My Space Wolves Leman Russ Tank begs to differ.
(and my spez mahrine Scout with auto cannon and . . . . )

**malfred**

Holy crap, 120mm base? Insane.

**Da Boss**

If you can slam them, it's going to be hilarious.

**Dysartes**

SpacePanzee wrote:(and my spez mahrine Scout with auto cannon and . . . . )

Don't remind me - I'd just finished converting mine in time for one of the codexes to come out and make it an invalid choice (4th edition, perhaps?).

**CT GAMER**

bbb wrote:If the jacks can have their own self contained steampowered motor then why can't that thing? Seems really silly,

Mostly because the majority of the playerbase doesnt want "tanks" nor "transports" in the game fearing it will become one step closer to 40K.

This has been discussed over and over in numerous threads on the PP forums over the years.

The horses are a way to ground it in the "Full metal fantasy" of the Iron Kingdoms rather than advance it into an age of tanks.

Regardless it would be a simple matter to convert those horses to "steam powered" constructs by adding some valves, piping and exhaust pipe, etc....

**malfred**

I'm thinking of going the laborjack conversion route for the horses. Instead of horses,
just put some 'jacks in harness.

**CT GAMER**

malfred wrote:I'm thinking of going the laborjack conversion route for the horses. Instead of horses,
just put some 'jacks in harness.

That would also be an interesting conversion...

**Kroothawk**

Here another pic and some text by Privateer http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-03-2011 :

Welcome to Battle Engine Week!

Today is a big day for Privateer Press, and I mean “big” quite literally! Today, we pull back the curtain on the formidable Khador Gun Carriage (whose art was previewed in the latest GTM), the first of an all-new model type for WARMACHINE and HORDES: the mighty battle engine.

Battle engines add a whole new dimension to the tabletop, and the scope of their impact has been felt around the office for many, many months. Every department has worked tirelessly to bring these mammoths of the battlefield to life in every way.

Not only are these the largest models ever produced by Privateer Press (just take a look at the picture below!), they are also the first resin models that will be available through regular distribution. The new material provides a lot of exciting potential for Privateer Press, as well as posing unique challenges we had to overcome in order to make battle engines a reality. I’ll let our studio head Ron Kruzie talk more about that in the next few days.

As you can likely tell from the images of the Gun Carriage, battle engines are just too big to confine to a single day, so we are giving them an entire week of exclusive insider content. That’s right; over the course of the week you are going to get a true insider look at the overall production of battle engines and how each department tackled these awesome new models. As if that weren't enough to chew on, we are also previewing the concept art for each of the remaining four battle engines with a new one at the end of each insider.

So be sure to check back regularly as we usher in the next BIG thing for WARMACHINE and HORDES!

**Thanatos73**

Well looks like Mercs will definitely be getting one as they said they'll be previewing the concept art for the remaining four battle engines this week. And I can't wait to see what the Protectorate gets!

Edit: Or they won't be as I keep forgetting the Retribution is a full faction. Hmmm...

**Agamemnon2**

Yeah, there's no way they'll give Mercs one. There isn't even an unifying theme across the whole "faction" they could use or justify the inclusion of one. Unless they gave them some kind of character unit version of an engine.

**greenskin lynn**

i don't know, i could see them doing maybe a steelhead one or a rhulic

edit-gaaaahhhh, now i'm stuck picturing some massive tank thing pulled by the little two-legged gunners

**Kroothawk**

Well, the Hammerfall Dwarfs cry for a big warmachine.

**Cryonicleech**

Naaw, Cryx, Cygnar, Protectorate and Retribution.

That's 4. PP doesn't love Mercs enough for a character 'Jack, let alone a Battle Engine.

**malfred**

Cryonicleech wrote:Naaw, Cryx, Cygnar, Protectorate and Retribution.

That's 4. PP doesn't love Mercs enough for a character 'Jack, let alone a Battle Engine.

If merc players had nothing to complain about, they'd cease to exist.

**chaplaingrabthar**

I'm wondering what the Menoth one will be. Hope it's covered in flame and incense bearers

**malfred**

chaplaingrabthar wrote:I'm wondering what the Menoth one will be. Hope it's covered in flame and incense bearers

There's a funny pic of a suggested one further up in the thread

**oomiestompa**

My only gripe is the identical horses. Other than that, it looks pretty boss. If there isn't anything in the rules that only makes sense if the carriage is being pulled by horses, I may have to do the laborjack conversion, too.