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Okay now I'm regretting 'not' selling those Goblins from the previous Warhammer box, plus buying extra goblins and fanatics to start an army that paused.

Because all I'm thinking here is, Mmm River Trolls, Giant, big butt spider, Savage Orcs and those new sneaky Gobs, and I've got another new Warhammer army.

Dang it GW, must resist.

That spider looks like it needs a good humping from a carnifex. Take off the hodawh and put a bio cannon up there for a tryanofex conversion.

For a second there, I thought Orcs were gonna be able to use champions of chaos too...

Spider looks real cool but unless there's some sort of new howda rule where you can only hit one crew with a template weapon it's going to be useless on the table when one cannon ball kills all 10 goblins riding in it with one shot.

I'm really interested to see how this book works. Fantasy 8th edition is an abortion that's not worth playing but I've been hoping it's just because books were not caught up and we were only seeing half the game. This should let us know the direction of the game so fingers crossed...

All the stuff is looking amazing... wasn't planning to buy so much but at this point it doesn't looks like I have a choice.

love the models but hate the prices thats how its always been with gw

That sorcer on metal boar looks like a source of frustration.

Great models, the spider and shaman are my favorites simply for the fact that they look incredible! I should really collect and army of spiders, you have got the LotR monsters and now this

Gawd I hope this hardcover army book crap isn't a trend! I'd much rather spend that extra cash on minis. I don't NEED to read the rules for the army on fake parchment pages. Black and white are fine. I actually feel more eyestrain reading the new BRB than the B&W army books. Maybe I'm gettin' old.

Those gobbos with two weapons will make awesome sneaky git stand-ins for my Chaos Dwarf army.

agnosto wrote:Those gobbos with two weapons will make awesome sneaky git stand-ins for my Chaos Dwarf army.

The Sneaky Gitz surely are the real winners of this release

Kanluwen wrote:

agnosto wrote:Those gobbos with two weapons will make awesome sneaky git stand-ins for my Chaos Dwarf army.

The Sneaky Gitz surely are the real winners of this release

From what I gather from the blurp it looks like they'll have ASF and AP while being able to strike from deeper ranks. Not bad rules if I had a Goblin army I'd definitely be adding them.

ZOMG! I think I may just leaked a little in my pants that all looks amazing and I have just started an O &G army at xmas aswell

Also if they are charging $40 a book now they damn well have better cleared up the "pages falling out a week after purchase" problem.

Anyone else able to make out the signature spells on the battle magic cards?

Looks like the Goblin one is an augment that grants Armor Piercing to a unit in CC and allows the unit to re-roll to hits and to wounds when attacking a flank/rear.

Looks like the Orc one is draw a 4d6 line(or 8d6 for +16 to cast boosted spell) and enemy models touched by it suffer a S4 hit.

Looks like there are lore attributes, but they are not on the cards. It just says to apply the lore attribute when the spell is cast.

Nothing to broken, but pretty fun so far.

Ixquic wrote:Also if they are charging $40 a book now they damn well have better cleared up the "pages falling out a week after purchase" problem.

And hopefully the typos and misspellings that make me cringe....not to mention the poorly worded rules...

aw, who am I kidding? I'll be paying extra for the same content and rules quality.

I do like the greenskins though; if GW would just hire real writers (or maybe just editors), they'd be tops in my book.

Glad they priced me out of the game with 8th Ed., otherwise this new trend would have been the nail in the coffin after I spent copious amounts of Dracmas on the new rulebook and whatnot. Seems I better get in all the 40K I can, 'cause I damn well gauran-damn-tee, know I'm going to be priced out of that as well. /rant

agnosto wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

agnosto wrote:Those gobbos with two weapons will make awesome sneaky git stand-ins for my Chaos Dwarf army.

The Sneaky Gitz surely are the real winners of this release

From what I gather from the blurp it looks like they'll have ASF and AP while being able to strike from deeper ranks. Not bad rules if I had a Goblin army I'd definitely be adding them.

I hadn't noticed until I was looking at them again that there's a blurb from "Da Block Gobbo" down at the bottom.

Epic.

Kanluwen wrote:I hadn't noticed until I was looking at them again that there's a blurb from "Da Block Gobbo" down at the bottom.

Epic.

I actually like the blurps, a fluffy way to give unit information.

agnosto wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I hadn't noticed until I was looking at them again that there's a blurb from "Da Block Gobbo" down at the bottom.

Epic.

I actually like the blurps, a fluffy way to give unit information.

Yep, and keeps us guessing about the stats/points costs

Nifty stuff admittedly, but I think my wallet is safe. Army book not quite the gold plated purchase we feared, but at £22.50 still too much for a casual buy.

Someone please tell me the hardback is a limited release thing. I really don't want to start spending $40 per armybook. I mean the current $30 is enough to stop me from buying them just to read.

And companies wonder why they lose money to internet piracy. . . I don't even see it as piracy anymore I see it as a case of robin-hood.

I think its time to Orkify that Spider. Could anyone see an Spider based 40k Ork army with just some of these new models? Like an Arachnarok "battlewagon" some Spider-y Bikers... It would be an interesting twist to a new Waaagh!

I'm not quite sure if I would spend 37 dollars on the new codex, I stopped buying DnD books after they hit a certain price, but a beautiful release for Orcs and Goblins.

Shas'O Dorian wrote:Someone please tell me the hardback is a limited release thing. I really don't want to start spending $40 per armybook. I mean the current $30 is enough to stop me from buying them just to read.

33 more pages than the current Orcs & Goblin book, with the entire book being done in full color.
There's going to be a price bump if even just one case from those two parts had come to pass, not a price drop.

And companies wonder why they lose money to internet piracy. . . I don't even see it as piracy anymore I see it as a case of robin-hood.

You do realize that Robin Hood wasn't stealing things for his own gain, right?

And that the whole point of the story of Robin Hood was about the tyranny of monarchs, nothing that can remotely be compared to a free market and bad business strategies.

I like the giant spider, but in a way, I think it would detract from the feel of my Orc and Goblin army. Instead of being a chaotic horde of allied tribes, it would become "a bunch of guys and their massive spider". I might get one, but I hope I can run a solid list without needing one.

Da Boss wrote:I like the giant spider, but in a way, I think it would detract from the feel of my Orc and Goblin army. Instead of being a chaotic horde of allied tribes, it would become "a bunch of guys and their massive spider". I might get one, but I hope I can run a solid list without needing one.

That's the best and most sensible fear I've seen expressed yet.

Will the Arachnarok be an "OH MY GOD MUST HAVE!" like the Vendetta--or just a treat that you can work in?

I'm excited for the hardback books, but still a tad disgruntled at the price. Privateer's books are slightly more expensive for hardback, and at least this book is also in full color.

I'm also fond of the cover, a nice throwback to older artwork, IMHO. However, those Savage Orcs are ridiculously $$ expensive...

So, while the price is still high, I must admit that I'm excited for the release, though I definitely want to see the new rules.

I'm still not too keen on the Arachnarok. I mean, it fits, but it seems to be a really big model... at this rate my puny 6x4 table won't be able to fit the armies...

I like the cover art too, actually. Didn't comment on that. I want to pick up some savage orcs and paint them as Trogdolyte orcs that live even deeper under the mountains than Night Goblins. But at that price, I certainly won't be doing more than one fairly small unit.

Cracking models here, I can see some great pieces for conversion work here, The book price isn't so bad really.

I agree Kanluwen here..

Increased army book price was bound to happen, and i'm thoroughly chuffed that we will start seeing more product for the price increase, so don't see what's really to moan and groan about here. If you can't afford to buy a rulebook, then I have no idea how you can afford to play the army.