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Stealthy Grot Snipa





Lincoln UK

Foxtale wrote:I like both ideas, though the first sounds nicer. Less diorama-esque and more Armies on Parade style.


Really? I only seen a few example of armies on parade, the advantage to the diorama board over the flat open one is the fact it won't make my army look too small, as it will only contain around 20 models.

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Also heres an idea for Grey Knight Teleporter squads how about Pre-Heresy Jetbikes? It would suit their teleporter move better and make them easier differentiate from the 'artificer armoured warriors'. True they'll still be toughness 4, but the idea of having jetbikes with halberds down still sounds interesting.


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Bristol

Its certainly cool, but if you're talking about Interceptors it's a bit of a size gap. Still, its only you thats at a disadvantage in that case, so i say go for it!!
   
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United States

The size issue would be a big problem if you plan to play torties.

Maybe have marines riding discs but that may be a bit too chaos for you, or maybe spirits of some sorts.

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Lincoln UK

BASEWORK & FILLERS
The biggest problem I'm facing is because I’m using them as artificer armoured troops (terminators) I have to mount them on 40mm bases, some of the models can be posed to make the base not look to big but there are a lot of large gaps. I would love to model some small tutelaries (warp entities the thousand sons used) on the base but I’m having trouble finding the right miniatures to convert, I did think of using the ghouls and painting the hairs as flames but they’ve got too many bones on them so I don’t think it would look right.

So any ideas on what I can use to convert something similar to this critter right here which is how I imagined the tutelaries looked to go on my bases?

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Lincoln UK

HARD WORK!
So far the first model looks to be my best painted miniature yet, and it should be given that I spent a evening blending the red, a 2nd evening doing the gold and sunday afternoon on the other details and I've still got to do the arms. Makes me look forward to the finished model and glad I'm only doing around 25 of them!

With luck I'll have the first guy done by the end of the week, just need to figure out how to detail his base so he isn't dwarfed by it?
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Bristol

Looking very nice, basing will depend on what environment you want them in. You could easily fill a 40mm base with some kick-ass industrial ruins/detritus.
   
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Terre Haute, Indiana

Could you maybe elevate all the dudes on the larger bases, like have them standing on rubble or floating or something? That might offset their smaller size.

   
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Lincoln UK

JUST THE FIRST OF MANY!
Well this has to be my best painted model ever and he’s only the first of 20 to 30 more just like him! Which is good as he took a week to paint. I used painting tutorials from 2 White Dwarfs to help me paint the model to the best of my ability; the Space Hulk captain tutorial for the armour and jewels and the high elf prince’s for the gold, robes and sword. The hardest and most frustrating part was the symbols, especially the thousand sons logo but with a few snarls and curses later I was happy with it thou I will paint the scarab a little smaller next time.



I did try to paint an engraving into the bracelet but it didn’t come out like I had hoped. I’m very pleased thou with how the robes came out.

Because I’m looking to make an army of artificer armoured warriors (counts as terminators) I needed to include a personal teleporter for the deep strike ability and although the thousand sons can hurl objects, lightning and fire they always carry a holster bolt pistol or bolter, it’s a small detail I going to add to all of the warriors.

As for the base, due to his pose I couldn’t place him on a flat 40mm base without him being dwarfed by it, so I created a raised platform for him using a resin 40mm and greenstuff.

Now I’m even more psyched to get started on the next model and try make it better looking than this one!

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Ellicott City, MD

Very, very nice!

I can't say I'm really a fan of the standard-sized model on a 40mm base, but you did it quite well.

Keep up the great work!

Valete,

JohnS

Valete,

JohnS

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Brighton, UK

Very sexy painting!!!

Will be keeping an eye on this!
   
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Oh my..................................

This is awesome.


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Bristol

Loverly painting!!The base looks great, though i think the tutelary is needed to fill it out a bit more. Are you still planning to do them??
   
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The time you spent on that paintjob really shows.

I like it. Though I'd have made the glaive a little longer.

   
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Lincoln UK

HEAVY HITTERS?
I finally played a game against some dreadknights, thanks to their Teleporters they tore my mech guard to shreds. This made me realise that I need at least 2 as a single one would be brought down by focus fire, so I’ve been thinking of ideas to represent Dreadknights in my pre-heresy thousand sons.

I could go with the robots of the Pyrae like one featured in the Thousand Sons army that won best army at Throne Of Skulls. Or I could go extreme and use the torso from the war sphinx and create a huge warp entity with a thousand son warrior modelled on the base controlling it (or perhaps not), this would make the army more post heresy than pre-heresy as it‘s something they‘d likely use after they separation from the Imperium. I’d most likely model it with a ghost/genie like tail like the blue spirit I’ve shown in previous posts.



What do you think?
Also any suggestions on how I can convert the thunder hammer to match the Egyptian like theme, so far I can only think of using the lion heads off the chaos tank sprue?

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Terre Haute, Indiana

That test model is brilliant! Also, doing a ghost Dreadknight would be pretty badass. Like the one in the image above.

Good luck, this looks like an amazing project.

   
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Kansas, USA

Just wanted to say REALLY like the work so far. Also like your use of so much artwork for inspiration and reference.

Wish more people would do this.

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Charleston, SC

Here are just a couple ideas for your summoned or ghostly looking creeps...
(Paintjobs would need to be changed, obviously)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/anima-tactics/covel-neutral-faction.html

http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/miniatures/anima-tactics/al-djinn.html
-Sorry if you've seen these already.

   
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Bristol

Ghost Dreadknight!!

For a TH, i dunno, you could use a normal hammer, but put an Ushabti head on the back instead of the aquila?
   
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Are there going to be any of those nifty new(ish) Stormraven Gunships in your army
Oh, yeah, btw great job, too!

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Lincoln UK

QUICK QUESTION?
I was working on my 1st squad leader today and they’re modelled by placing the iron armour torso on dark angel robed legs with a large scarab on the front plate, they’ll also have a thousand son Egyptian helmet. Anyway when I placed the main body on the base behind a base of a cracked pillar an idea occurred; the legs were leaning to the left so I’m thinking of posing him using his left arm to levitate the rubble from the pillar in front of him.

Now this would look cool if done right, but I was thinking perhaps I should model the warriors armed with Psycannons who are casting spells as squad leaders, after all they’ll be the last model I remove, there is not difference in stats and thousand sons often rose through ranks based on psychic power and skill. I'm also planning on converting each of my Psycannons casting a different type of cult power 1) A telekinetic hurling rocks 2) A Pyrokinetic with a fireball and 3) A Biomancer effecting his enemies from a far.

However I’m keen to hear what you guys think to this idea? How could I model the Justicar if the Psycannon warrior looks the best; have a banner on his backpack or have him not wearing a helmet? And more importantly will this cause too much confusion?
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Actually the T-Sons were using spirits and psyker powers while loyal. This is what they were reprimanded for. I love the idea of a Necrosphinx Dreadknight or even a ghost one.

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Well the Justicar just channels the psychic powers that boost up the squad. Whilst you would have the psycannon user channeling the destructive powers.

Perhaps model the justicar using some kind of enhancing spell on the unit?

   
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love the idea of a ghost creature.

i would model no leader per say and have "specialists" since they have the same stat line, you could, like Foxtale mentioned, have the offensive psycanon "specialist" and the defensive justicar "specialist", each looking more unique then the other models but easily seen as focusing on a single role. you could argue they are both the leaders, each one protraying a different psychic attrubute to the squad.

srry about spelling mad tired

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Love the Idea of a Dante Esque Ghost form! I do like the look of the new troops, any reason you are going with such a large base when it could to affect the way the army plays tourny wise?

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Terre Haute, Indiana

Cutthroatcure wrote:any reason you are going with such a large base when it could to affect the way the army plays tourny wise?

They're actually counts-as GK Terminators, which need a 40mm base. Which will definitely need clarification before tourneys and such. You might need a little "Counts-as Guide Sheet" like the one you made for the Grot Rebellion army.

   
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Joshh wrote:
Cutthroatcure wrote:any reason you are going with such a large base when it could to affect the way the army plays tourny wise?

They're actually counts-as GK Terminators, which need a 40mm base. Which will definitely need clarification before tourneys and such. You might need a little "Counts-as Guide Sheet" like the one you made for the Grot Rebellion army.


Ok cause they looked like troops and that is what was confusing me...Thanks for the clarification!

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Well Protieus, it's taken me long enough to post here as RL has prevented me from doing much. As a keen 1kSons player (the blue dusty ones, not the nice red ones...) I feel I should critique your work.

Really nice finish on the test models and they definitely look the part. The red is well blended and the gold has been finished in a worn manner which adds to the overall aesthetic of the Thousand Sons.

On the dilemma of whether or not it would be confusing... As long as you clearly explain what the Psyker powers meant, as well as providing a guide similar to your other 'counts-as' armies, you should be fine. It seems like quite an interesting and innovative way of representing Psycannons.

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Lincoln UK

STILL HERE
Just wanted you to know guys that this project is still going strong, I’ll soon have another 3 warriors done and after that I’ll complete the first squad with an incinerator sorcerer. Just need to find some dyrad heads for the tutelary which are proving hard to find.

However given how much hard work is involved with every model, especially the Teleporter packs and robes. I want to make sure that I won't recieve to much negative feedback to the artificer armour ‘counts as’ conversion theme, so I’ll be starting a poll on Warseer to ask people how they would react to an army of artificer armoured marines with a photo of the completed squad. Because the people on Warseer often give me the harshest critque and I just don’t want spend a week on each marine to be called lazy and be accused of converting for advantage purposes.

Also I’ve seen the new forgeworld pre-heresy dreadnought and I love it and considered using it as a Dreadknight stand in should my Necrosphinx conversion not work as I not ready to spend that amount of money of 3 dreadnoughts!

Well I better get back to work on Scarab Occult Warriors 2, 3 and 4. Till then here a photo of my dreadknight concept, I'm thinking of adding a huge cloak on to it to give it more size?

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I would go with a clock.

The poll sounds like a good idea, but to be honest I don't think you should get any probs, if anyone asks just say you wanted to have more detailed bases, or that by making them termies you are actually portraying marines a lot more accurately.

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Lincoln UK

PLAN B: FORBIDDEN FRUIT?
I’ve started work on the 2nd model’s base so with luck my Justicar model will be uploaded tomorrow. But the more effort I put into these models the more I’m concerned that the idea of saying their in artificer armour and are terminators will not work for the majority of players, I know I‘m already taking chances with none of the models having any ranged weapons modelled on them as they’re shooting attacks are magic bolts.

Because of this I have come up with an alternative Grey Knight Terminators conversion that actually uses GK Terminator bits, however the huge downside is that it uses a large number of non-gw bits…

  • Chapterhouse Studio’s Thousand Son Terminator pads,

  • Micro Art’s Steampunk robed legs that happen to be terminator sized,

  • & Scibor Miniature’s Egyptian Head Crests and small shields.

  • This could cause issues at Throne Of Skulls which I attend twice every year, plus other GW based tournaments. I guess I could get away with saying I green stuffed the robes. I guess if I go with the terminators I could always use forge world conversions as purifiers or interceptors.

    Anyway I’m eager to hear your thoughts about this?


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