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Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

And yes now that I see more to the story, they were wrong. However, if someone stomped a cool piece I made I would still stomp them. But that was not the situation here. They should have been fired.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:lol apparently so, Frazzled. Where do you work?

Evil Banker and proud!

The stomping is a bit excessive.. I guess GW has no sense of humor about themselves

If my employees act in a very unprofessional way, in this case sending something like this to a -company event-. They'd really not deserve any professional courtesy apart from the formal letter explaining their termination.

What did they think would happen? Someone to call them up and say "Haha, very funny. You guys are awesome?"

I commend them for the lulz it created in the gaming community, but whining about it being destroyed? Come on...

SickSix wrote:Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

He means the part where you said you would stomp them in return.

Don't be dense, kid.

Frazzled wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:lol apparently so, Frazzled. Where do you work?

Evil Banker and proud!

Seriously? You just tried to apply this situation to a bank? What you do at your bank isn't even in the same ballpark as a gaming store.

Platuan4th wrote:

SickSix wrote:Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

He means the part where you said you would stomp them in return.

Don't be dense, kid.

That or the piece being a representation of the store, bombed out with the corpses of his fellow employees inside.

Platuan4th wrote:

SickSix wrote:Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

He means the part where you said you would stomp them in return.

Don't be dense, kid.

Um no. He was interpreting the terrain piece with skeletons as a threat.

And kid? And then pixiedust assuming I have never had a job. This thread is really bringing out the pretentious arseholes.

SickSix wrote: This thread is really bringing out the pretentious arseholes.

We're only responding in kind to what you give us.

Yes, it's pretentious to:
1) Expect people to do the work they are assigned as assigned
2) Not feel bad when incorrectly done work is disposed of

Seriously, I think it's funny and all, but GW was absolutely doing the smart thing by getting rid of it.

Also, I'd rather be pretentious than the internet tough guy.

"if any of you... ****... Touch my stuff... I'll kill you."

Doesn't fulfil the brief
Not very well put together
and on company time

Not saying it should have been thunderstomped but not sure what the fuss is about.
It is mildly amusing.
Once you see the joke, chuckled and then moved on then so what? You are left with a shoe box with chained skellies.

Isn't Games Day some sort of big deal?
Would have thought that one would want to represent their creativity with something a tad more substantial.

I assumed you've had a job or two and could relate to company higher ups and whats expected of employees. Especially in retail & nationwide companies. Was I wrong?

Kanluwen wrote:Putting it bluntly:

It's not that much of a 'great piece of work'.

You misspelled "I don't care for this model."

Kanluwen wrote:Very little actual creativity went into it and it really just looks like it's meant to shock people who see it.

You misspelled "I don't appreciate the humor and would prefer they made a model that fit more into the game setting."


People are free to have their opinions, but to say very little creativity went into making a model where the vast majority of it could only have been scratch-built makes it sound like perhaps you're using a very unusual definition for the word 'creativity'.

It's an awesome in-store gaming piece. It's a poor choice to send to anywhere outside the store it represents. It's an even poorer choice to destroy the model. I can forgive an employee who is a bit unprofessional way before I can forgive an corporate representative who is so anal-retentive that they can't even tolerate the slightest bit of fun had at the larger corporation's expense. When a company involved in entertainment can't allow it's employees to once in a while look at their organization and have a little laugh (even a laugh as minor and inoffensive as this one), that's a sign of some serious leadership problems. Perhaps we should have seen this as a sign of things to come.

I must say, I found this pretty amusing. But I agree that it should not have been created during working hours, nor was it the kind of effort that deserves a place in a Games day event.

Stomping on it? That is just someone being silly and childish about the whole thing. But under those circumstances, disposal of the piece and an immediate warning about their conduct was entirely appropriate. Shame noone was offered the chance to keep it though, it'd be good fun toplay around...

JOHIRA wrote:It's an awesome in-store gaming piece. It's a poor choice to send to anywhere outside the store it represents. It's an even poorer choice to destroy the model. I can forgive an employee who is a bit unprofessional way before I can forgive an corporate representative who is so anal-retentive that they can't even tolerate the slightest bit of fun had at the larger corporation's expense. When a company involved in entertainment can't allow it's employees to once in a while look at their organization and have a little laugh (even a laugh as minor and inoffensive as this one), that's a sign of some serious leadership problems. Perhaps we should have seen this as a sign of things to come.

Except that this was sent to be part of a Games Day display, instead of what was asked for.

Corporate might look the other way if this peice was tucked into a back table at the shop. But when you send in work to corporate that's essentially a "screw you," what exactly is corporate supposed to do? Fire the employees and ship the piece back?


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I suppose it's also worth noting that it was stomped by the LA bunker staff, not by corporate.

Kanluwen wrote:

They sent it to GW's HQ to be used. What the hell are they going to use it for? If it can't be put down at Games Day Los Angeles, there's no reason to keep it around.

Or do you really think they need to store every single piece of half-arsed card terrain that staffers make as jokes?

This kind of thing is something that's fine for them to have had on their tables at home, but otherwise there's no reason at all for it to continue to exist.

And I sincerely doubt someone 'stomped it to death' as the blog claims. More likely than not, it was just tossed.

So if you cant use it, ship it back. Thats not grounds for destruction. I mean, if I find YOUR models tasteless, its ok for me to take a hammer them then, right?

SickSix wrote:Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

And yes now that I see more to the story, they were wrong. However, if someone stomped a cool piece I made I would still stomp them. But that was not the situation here. They should have been fired.

If you're an employee tasked to do some sort of marketing (which is what this effectively is) and you showed up with something actively sabotaging the company, you would be fired, immediately. In order for the product not get photo'd or otherwise cause a problem I'd probably destroy it to (most likely just trash it). You ging to try to start a fistfight over it? That why I said security would help you out.

It is not pretentious to think those guys are wrong and the piece was blatantly not to standard.

What is pretentious is "have you ever had a job?" And blindly referring to someone as a kid. Especially when you are the one
Who didn't understand what was posted. (referring to the kid comment)

I replied to the OP. That was my mistake. As the story has been explained further. And I know others here do not read every single post in a thread before responding.

carmachu wrote: I mean, if I find YOUR models tasteless, its ok for me to take a hammer them then, right?

Your point doesn't stand. It wasn't THEIR model, it was GW's, commissioned by GW for their event. It's perfectly acceptable for you to do whatever you want to something you own, regardless of the work someone else did in making or finishing it.


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SickSix wrote:What is pretentious is "have you ever had a job?" And blindly referring to someone as a kid. Especially when you are the one
Who didn't understand what was posted. (referring to the kid comment)

Frazzled: "You ging to try to start a fistfight over it? That why I said security would help you out. "

As he JUST POSTED, he was referring to your stomp comment(as was quoted in his post, BTW), NOT any implicit act in the piece. But then, you couldn't act like the validated martyr if you'd actually acknowledged that, could you?

SickSix wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Lt. Coldfire wrote:lol apparently so, Frazzled. Where do you work?

Evil Banker and proud!

Seriously? You just tried to apply this situation to a bank? What you do at your bank isn't even in the same ballpark as a gaming store.

I said Banker not in a bank. Don't insult me. I haven't worked in a bank since before your ma started to get morning sickness.

The ruin of the GW store was done in really bad taste.
If I worked with GW and was getting shipments from my stores and was supposed to use this, I'd take a baseball bat to the thing.

And if some aggro dude came after me ready to stomp me, I'm game. Microsoft doesn't put out ads where they talk gak about their own OS, why do you think GW would stand for the same thing.

Freedom of speech...totally. I am also free to show my speech. If I destroy an item given to me by another person then that is my own choice.
What happened happened, why cry over spilled sour milk?

/end argument

Kanluwen wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

SickSix wrote:Frazzled: Threat? WTF are you talking about?

He means the part where you said you would stomp them in return.

Don't be dense, kid.

That or the piece being a representation of the store, bombed out with the corpses of his fellow employees inside.

This actually although the seocond statment supports it.


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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Doesn't fulfil the brief
Not very well put together
and on company time

Not saying it should have been thunderstomped but not sure what the fuss is about.
It is mildly amusing.
Once you see the joke, chuckled and then moved on then so what? You are left with a shoe box with chained skellies.

Isn't Games Day some sort of big deal?
Would have thought that one would want to represent their creativity with something a tad more substantial.

Now had that been in store actual gaming terrain it might have been funny, especially if everyone knew the context.


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carmachu wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

They sent it to GW's HQ to be used. What the hell are they going to use it for? If it can't be put down at Games Day Los Angeles, there's no reason to keep it around.

Or do you really think they need to store every single piece of half-arsed card terrain that staffers make as jokes?

This kind of thing is something that's fine for them to have had on their tables at home, but otherwise there's no reason at all for it to continue to exist.

And I sincerely doubt someone 'stomped it to death' as the blog claims. More likely than not, it was just tossed.

So if you cant use it, ship it back. Thats not grounds for destruction. I mean, if I find YOUR models tasteless, its ok for me to take a hammer them then, right?

Wait, seriously?

I am sorry but some of you I think have your panties wound up a little tight. If I had been the executive in this situation, I would have laughed, and then fired them. And yes, if it was made on company time, it would technically belong to the company so they could destroy it. I guess some of us just have different thresholds of humour.

And you Guys keep misreading what I say about retaliation. I simply said if someone stomped my hardwork, I would show them the same courtesy. I did NOT say "if my employer destroyed something I made that that was a clear 'F U' to them, I would attack them"

Edited the first post for less kneejerk reactions, hopefully.

What a beautiful model.

Shame to the cavemen who decided to destroy it.

Reprimands should have been given out to the employees who made the piece for not following company instructions for the terrain (if any), but destroying such a wonderful work of art is just a crime, and the mark of a childish coward.

BuFFo wrote:What a beautiful model.

Shame to the cavemen who decided to destroy it.

Reprimands should have been given out to the employees, but destroying such a wonderful work of art is just a crime, and the mark of a childish coward.

I'm betting you don't actually work do you...

In my industry (animation) we do random stuff like this all the time, and it's even encouraged.

There is a big different between the creative industry and the corporate industry.

GW's #1 problem is that it is a creative company that thinks it's a corporate one.. leading to "bug up it's butt" situations like these, when the upper management are the exact polar opposites of the guys in the shop in terms of personality.

I said Banker not in a bank. Don't insult me. I haven't worked in a bank since before your ma started to get morning sickness.

Nobody cares about the minutiae of your employment, get off your high horse.
You might be able to brag and act superior on account of your flashy investment banking job IRL, but not online, you don't. On here we are all simply hobbyists.

I'm willing to bet things went out like this...

GW HQ receives the thing and after looking at it they decide to trash it... trash bin to small, so someone breaks it in into tiny bits.... if those are the only consequences to this brain farted project then the employees are very lucky indeed...

Oh and I am sorry I can't instantly type up replies instantly. I am using a phone.

Oh and I apologize for estimating that a 'banker' worked in a bank. Crucify me.


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scarletsquig wrote:In my industry (animation) we do random stuff like this all the time, and it's even encouraged.

There is a big different between the creative industry and the corporate industry.

GW's #1 problem is that it is a creative company that thinks it's a corporate one.. leading to "bug up it's butt" situations like these, when the upper management are the exact polar opposites of the guys in the shop in terms of personality.

EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!

scarletsquig wrote:In my industry (animation) we do random stuff like this all the time, and it's even encouraged.

There is a big different between the creative industry and the corporate industry.

GW's #1 problem is that it is a creative company that thinks it's a corporate one.. leading to "bug up it's butt" situations like these, when the upper management are the exact polar opposites of the guys in the shop in terms of personality.

Its not creative, its a borderline threat and completely inappropriate as a marketing piece . You don't mail something showing everyone dead in a burned out store. Or then again, maybe you do, which explains your post.

I said Banker not in a bank. Don't insult me. I haven't worked in a bank since before your ma started to get morning sickness.

Nobody cares about the minutiae of your employment, get off your high horse. You might be able to brag and act superior on account of your flashy investment banking job IRL, but not online, you don't.

1. I'm not bragging. They are completely different. now you may be comfortable being factually wrong in life, but others aren't, and it directly relates to the issue. Its not a banking environment.
2. Someone asked me my profession. It helps when you read.
3. Three insults in one sentence. Your internet rage warms my heart. Working through some issues?