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I haven't put more than a few dollars into the coffers of GW since 1999 in protest of 3rd Ed. Does that count me in as one of the cool kids?

I got back into the hobby in 2010 because a friend of mine plays and he knew I still had all my old stuff. I updated the Codices and models via used eBay items. I buy GW paints and washes (I haven't found an alt. replacement for Bolgun Metal or Tin Bitz yet, and I like the washes) at my FLGS.

My local FLGS is a huge Warmachine outpost and the community there outweighs 40K by at least 4-1 per their estimates. M:TG is still running strong and Flames of War is also very popular. They have declined to carry any of the Finecast range. They kept their metal blisters and did not raise the price on them.

I don't usually get involved in this stuff because normally I don't care. Recently I've been feeling it a bit more for a variety of reasons and have started to voice opinions I generally keep to myself.

I will keep playing GW games because I enjoy them to the extent that I do and if the whole thing went under tomorrow I would still be playing and painting on my own. But I don't bring new people to the game, and I don't spend money that GW gets. GW lost me a long time ago and I don't expect I'll ever be back.

The last GW purchase was a thing of plastic glue and the DE Codex, which was then returned for the Warmachine MKII rules. Haven't touched anything GW since in terms of buying, and been doing whatever gaming I've had with the things I have left, which is more than enough. Spend a good $150 on Warmachine already, and I think it's money well spent. I'm not a nerd-rager, but I just don't feel like supporting GW when they don't really give me a decent reason to keep supporting them. I'm not picky about what I play or build, as long as I've got something that interests me. And Warmachine has picked up that lost interest.

Well, my foray into 40K and the Dark Eldar has been postponed indefinitely... if not eternally.

I've put a good chunk of money (for me, anyway) into starting a Dwarf army using Manic minis. I might include some Reaper models as well, but above all, there will be no GW minis. For that matter, any future expansions of my existing armies (Brettonia, Skaven, and Dark Elves) will be done with figures from alternate companies, unless GW undertakes some serious mending of their business practices.

I would personally be delighted to see them be busted back to just doing rules because no one wants their minis anymore*. Maybe then they would actually profread the darn things. Or maybe I'll just try and get Kings of War going in the local group. The game is basically a stripped-down version of Warhammer, with a lot less possibilty for bad rules interactions because there are a lot less rules.

(*Yes, I know this is never going to happen. It's just a silly wish of mine. )

I would prrofread your own post and duly edit it first Vulcan ;}

I'm not banning GW models, I'm just not going to buy directly from them any more.

Too overpriced for a long time now anyway.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:I haven't put more than a few dollars into the coffers of GW since 1999 in protest of 3rd Ed. Does that count me in as one of the cool kids?

The problem is, you were doing it before it was cool to do it.

Oh, man. You're a wargaming hipster. I... I'm so sorry. I don't think there's a cure.

I've been a PP player almost as long as a GW player. So not a lot has changed, just dropped my small amount of GW purchases and pumped it all into PP, Wyrd Games and boardgames.

Might try out some other war games as well.

Privateer Press, started up Cygnar.
Playing FoW and looking hard at Malifaux.

Most I have done is converted 54 old skinks with shortbows into monkeys.

yamgrenade wrote:I'm not banning GW models, I'm just not going to buy directly from them any more.

Too overpriced for a long time now anyway.

you do know that they still get their money right?

Troll harder kid.

I actually think that's a valid point.

coolyo294 wrote:I actually think that's a valid point.

It is... which is why I tell people to simply stop buying and not just switching their particular dealer. Whether you buy from Tyrone on 26th street or Mikey on 14th avenue, the Columbians get their cut regardless. It honestly didn't work too well with my local crowd as they did what HBMC did and just bought a crapload before the price raise.

infinite_array wrote:Oh, man. You're a wargaming hipster. I... I'm so sorry. I don't think there's a cure.

Does that mean I have to drink PBR thinking that I'm being ironic?

Ahem, I'm afraid I have spent £17.50 in store

I thought I should give Finecast a try in order to form my own opinion (better than metal, not as good as plastic), so bought the Vampire Countess.

I also had to own the new Necromancer.

That is all, I promise.

I have not purchased anything new from GW and will continue not too. I looked at some boxes at my FLGS while in between games today and was shocked by the prices. A box of 5 Eldar Rangers for $35. Same price for other aspect warrior boxes. The plastic prices aren't all that bad but the finecast is terrible.

I continue to play with the armies I have on hand, and am open to buying/trading here or on ebay.

I also got into Malifaux. I have yet to play a game but purchased a box for myself and a friend, and have been working on modeling and painting the figures. I'm also going to begin playing WHFB again, with an army purchased second hand.

As promised I havent bought anything new from GW @ ALL!
All that malarky was just to much not to walk away from!

I still pick up the odd bit second hand on ebay if I see it going cheap for one of my existing armies though.


Play Warmachine alot more, but still need to get into the other games I originally said I would to expand my horizons.


Regarding am I more content now than when I played soley GW? I would say yes. I really enjoy playing Warmachine as it has a much more tactical feel to it. I only hope the other games I intend to try are as much fun!

I will continue to play GW games as I have to big a collection not to but I can imagine the amount of time I spend playing them will only diminish as I play different things!

To those that have visited this thread to state that they have made no change to their spending habits at GW, and have no intention to do so...please be aware that your comments are not welcomed here.

Let me explain. This thread was not intended to be a GW bashing thread, at the same time, it wasn't intended to be a face off between those who have happily moved on and those who have found it in their hearts (and pockets) to stay.

My only curiosity was aimed at those (like me) who have decided to leave GW in one form or another to seek enjoyment elsewhere....as the OP, I want to hear their stories and experiences, what they have moved on to, and most importantly, are they happier now than before.

If you have decided to stay with GW, and continue as if nothing has happened, then to be quite honest, I'm not really interested.....and for what it's worth, any post about the greatness of GW can really only be considered as trolling.

my decision to quit GW came over a year and a half ago. I had been on and off the 4 years previous, not really having any time at all while at school to devote a fair enough amount of time, i still built up some minis for a space marine army using the create your own chapter rules in one of the SM codex(who knows which one, i think if i look through my stack i have 3 or 4 of them, ridiculous). when i came back for the last time 2 years ago, i got the new codex, realized that they ruined my vision for my chapter(and also ruined the whole Lysander's Wing, that soured me to GW even though i didn't own IF marines, GW said 'hey, go out and buy 300 bucks worth of Termies, it'll be great!' and then came back next edition and said, 'hey have fun playing those termies regularly'). during this whole time i built up, and almost never played, a metric ton of cygnar for WM. just noone to play with.

anyways, instead i decided to just keep playing with my SoB force i'd put together a year or so before instead of investing more into an army that would have to be changed and rebought to be effective in a year or two's time(so 3 ish years ago? i'm swapping it now haha) but right before it was time to leave school for good i typed in 'fantasy naval game' just for kicks into google, and up pops an entry from thewarstore by the name of 'Uncharted Seas.' Spartan Games has gotten the lion's share of my money since, having sworn off the constant price hikes and (IMO, YMMV of course) a weak ruleset prone to superabuse. since then i've gotten fleets for US and DW(love steampunk and VSF) and am looking into HGB!(hard scifi 12mm combined arms combat centered on 15 foot tall mecha called 'gears') by the end of the year.

it made me more than a little upset when i saw all the stuff that GW pulled a little earlier in the year that pissed off so many, not that it directly affected me but i'm big on empathy and really didn't like how poorly treated anyone from the southern hemisphere was getting treated by GW. plus i like to laugh at finecast. having seen them in my LGS and looking at other products like Spartan's resin 1/1200 ships from DW, there is a noticeable difference in quality, and its not in finecast's favor(look for the doors on a Federated States of America Carrier if you don't believe me). And i think there are some models out there that are even better than Spartan's resin(not many, but some). Plus, resin is CHEAPER. NOT MORE EXPENSIVE.

But yes, I'm currently enjoying my ships/game systems that promote actual maneuver, and waiting on some Gears, while my WM/H stuff sits on the shelves and yells at me to get played. Maybe i should pick up the MKII rules...i've heard/seen good things at the LGS

CPTPromotable. out.

Was already switching to Kow from WHF (not because I don't like the 8th Ed changes, I do, but because trying to play the game with that much documentation was just not fun).

The only thing Ill be spending money on at GW is finishing off my BFG fleets if I can't find bits on ebay rtc.

Like the models for Infinity, Hell Dorado, Dystopian Wars and Uncharted Seas, so will be looking hard at those. And ofc Warpath when it arrives.

I have kept on track. I used my months gaming budget to get a new airbrush and compressor instead of GW minis and I am switching over to vallejo paints.

The airbrush is one of the best things I've bought in ages.

I still buy GW models, however, I don't buy them as often as I
once did. Nowadays, I try to paint what I have before starting a
new GW project.

I save the overbuying for Privateer Press.

Am also trying to finish painting/making models before buying new one but it is soo hard to resist!

My last purchase was for a couple of minis based on the work of Arthur Rackham from Mannikin Studios
http://mannikinstudios.com/?page_id=71
but they are for pressies for others so I relented.

Self edited due to an unseemly outburst on my part. I know it can still be read in quotes further down, but call it a symbolic gesture

I think you misunderstand, Flash.

For example the thread about Actual Finecast Flaws has similarly asked for specific content and imho is fair enough.
Otherwise there is a tendency for certain people to derail the threads.

I don't wish to speak for Delephont but I doubt if his request was made in the light of your post nor the sort of comments made by Malfred.

Well apologies if there was a misunderstanding, but the post was very strongly worded and appeared soon after mine.

I still maintain that the topic apears to be asking whether or not you are spending money at GW and therefore people should be free to say either way.

For the sake of the keeping the peace, I withdraw the use of the word, "arrogant".

I was going to start a GK army, I purchased 1 set of termies before the price hike. They are still sitting unbuilt while I work on my new Skorne and Menoth armies.

Flashman wrote:Careful Malfred...

Delephont wrote:To those that have visited this thread to state that they have made no change to their spending habits at GW, and have no intention to do so...please be aware that your comments are not welcomed here.

If you have decided to stay with GW, and continue as if nothing has happened, then to be quite honest, I'm not really interested.....and for what it's worth, any post about the greatness of GW can really only be considered as trolling.

You know, I'm normally a passive Dakka poster and not one for arguments, but this is possibly the most arrogant thing I've ever read on these boards. So anybody buying stuff at GW is now officially evil and you don't want to hear their viewpoint? Is my confession to spending £17.50 at GW over the last couple of months considered trolling? If you ask a question, don't be a grump just because you don't get the answer you want to hear.

It's a long winded statement to say "stay on topic and if your not the topic, don't post". Still kinda strange to post in a public forum however. Like the thread is his "little club".

Guess I'm a troll now btw...

I think Chibi's right, Flashman, there are some very hostile pro-GW posts in this thread that aren't relevant to the discussing but are rather little more than trolling. I would not include your post in that, as your posts I always find to be worth reading.

Flashman wrote:

You know, I'm normally a passive Dakka poster and not one for arguments, but this is possibly the most arrogant thing I've ever read on these boards. So anybody buying stuff at GW is now officially evil and you don't want to hear their viewpoint? Is my confession to spending £17.50 at GW over the last couple of months considered trolling? If you ask a question, don't be a grump just because you don't get the answer you want to hear.

If I ask you what car do you drive? and you start telling me about the colour of your socks......I would be equally uninterested

This thread was aimed a specific group of people, those who took offense to GW recent activities and swore to walk away and not return. I'm equiring as to how these people are getting on in their hobby! It's a specific question to a specific group of hobbyists.

People have been contributing to the thread who don't fit into that catagory, and as such are contributing statements that have no bearing on the original question.

I apologise if my statement came across as arrogant, that wasn't the intention. However, I will admit to a certain degree of consternation / frustration, at those who feel a need to preach about how they admire GW no matter what the occassion. Well, all I'm saying, is that this isn't the venue for that frame of discussion.

Responding specifically to your post. You're spending £17.50 at GW has bearing if you swore never to shop there again, and were upset by their latest actions.....if however, that was the usual £17.50 spend you would always make, then I'll leave it to you to decide whether that statement is relevant to the thread or not

Fair enough, I apologise for my strong use of words. To be honest I haven't read the entire thread and perhaps I read your post out of context.

Peace and goodwill