Is this girl worth it?

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**halonachos**

Asherian Command wrote:
halonachos wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
halonachos wrote:Most likely, but she's coming on to him so why not entertain her I guess.

So get drunk and have fun with her is the morale here?

Well I think the overall moral of the story is going; screw your friends and screw the girl both of you want. Of course we do use different meanings for 'screw' in the previous sentence.

Well I was thinking of kissing mate. Not that...
Plus how old is the OP?
Is what 16, 17? If so it will not be that. PLus his mate was failing so if anything it just proves to the kid to stop laying around with his head up his arse and get something done in his life.

Of course, because a psychological mind set that causes you to fear rejection is having your head shoved up your rectum... seriously OP has lost his friend. If his friend is introverted then chances are he didn't have a lot of people he put trust into and by doing that the OP basically slapped him in the face and kicked him in the nuts.

And he's 16, that statistically means he wants to, they will, she'll regret it.

**Asherian Command**

halonachos wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
halonachos wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
halonachos wrote:Most likely, but she's coming on to him so why not entertain her I guess.

So get drunk and have fun with her is the morale here?

Well I think the overall moral of the story is going; screw your friends and screw the girl both of you want. Of course we do use different meanings for 'screw' in the previous sentence.

Well I was thinking of kissing mate. Not that...
Plus how old is the OP?
Is what 16, 17? If so it will not be that. PLus his mate was failing so if anything it just proves to the kid to stop laying around with his head up his arse and get something done in his life.

Of course, because a psychological mind set that causes you to fear rejection is having your head shoved up your rectum... seriously OP has lost his friend. If his friend is introverted then chances are he didn't have a lot of people he put trust into and by doing that the OP basically slapped him in the face and kicked him in the nuts.

And he's 16, that statistically means he wants to, they will, she'll regret it.

Knowing this guy by his post he will probably try to. But lets not talk about that.
I know how that feels. I am an INTJ. Which is an Introvert but lets face it introverts aren't all bad. It just matters on your personality.

Knowing girls, it may look like it but alot of them like the magic 18 no.
But it could or could not happen but were getting OT

The fact remains his friend insulted him and that they are both pouting about it. they should make up and have a competition who ever gets her first wins.

**halonachos**

Asherian Command wrote:
The fact remains his friend insulted him and that they are both pouting about it. they should make up and have a competition who ever gets her first wins.

I'm introverted too(INFJ myself) which is why I feel for the guy's friend. But she expressed feelings to the OP I guess so why should there be a contest, she made a decision in who she wants. If the OP goes with it he risks, actually probably will lose a friend and if he doesn't then he loses some girl he likes.

They both made themselves look like jerks by fighting over a girl and the best option would be for neither of them to go after her, that won't probably happen though. His friend is introverted and shy, he won't win any sort of contest.

**Asherian Command**

halonachos wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
The fact remains his friend insulted him and that they are both pouting about it. they should make up and have a competition who ever gets her first wins.

I'm introverted too(INFJ myself) which is why I feel for the guy's friend. But she expressed feelings to the OP I guess so why should there be a contest, she made a decision in who she wants. If the OP goes with it he risks, actually probably will lose a friend and if he doesn't then he loses some girl he likes.

They both made themselves look like jerks by fighting over a girl and the best option would be for neither of them to go after her, that won't probably happen though. His friend is introverted and shy, he won't win any sort of contest.

If i was in this situation I would just sit back and study it.
Of course Thats just me.... But seriously if you need to get this girl keep her as a friend she's nice apparently so keep her as a friend date her later is what i can say. Or now if your really wanting to. But breaking a friendship is bad news.

**bombboy1252**

halonachos wrote:
bombboy1252 wrote:
Shadowbrand wrote:I play guitar, and write songs. Seriously become a musician if your lonely. And my jovial jokester nature. However, don't rely on that alone, it just gets you in the friend zone.

Playing guitar doesn't really work for me lol

Is it electric or acoustic?

According to my friend if you want to get some go to a metal concert, according to him you haven't lived until you've been tied to a bed with shawls.

Both...

**KilroyKiljoy**

Ravenous D wrote:Your friends gay, hit it like a Mac truck

This is perfectly stated.

**Ueece**

The problem what dose she think of? If she like you, you will need to be together, and if she like your friend, then it doesn't matter with you, right?

**SOFDC**

Good rule of thumb: If you are seriously asking the question, then No.

**snurl**

Way too much drama here.

Simply chat the girl up and tell her how much your shy friend is into her. You might go so far as to tell her that he is so introverted because his ***** is so long and everyone picks on him about it. This should have the desired effect.

**infinite_array**

snurl wrote:Way too much drama here.

I say sword fight for her. And I'm not talking about the metal kind. Hey-oo!

**Cyrax**

Fortes fortuna adiuvat!

Just go for it. Sounds like your friend will never man up to talk the girl. If you hadn't make your move, he'd wait for another two months doing nothing. Besides she seems like she has already made her choice.

**ineptus astartes**

Tell this girl the facts.

I would not wreck a friendship over girl, but this guy seems a bit of a jerk. ask him if he really really 100% loves he or something, if he does, it might be wise to back off.

But, if the girl in question is already 'coming on to you' I think the chances of your buddy are somewhere in the single digits.

most of all, make sure she is not just a "Good time Girl" that is NOT worth losing a friendship over.

**Mistress of minis**

Meanwhile, the girl keeps wondering why this guy shes hitting on doesnt respond to her. until he finds out he's had a lovers spat with that other guy that looks at her odd all the time.

It makes total sense to her now! He looks at her all the time because she's flirting with his man! OMG!

Having had her daily epiphany, she moves on to flirt with someone else because she doesnt want to get involved with the drama of being a homewrecker....

(To the OP, seriously, its great you're giving your freind a chance. But how long are you supposed to wait for his testicles to descend so he can man up? )

**Necroshea**

At first I wanted to say that OP should go for it, because friend wasn't making any real progress, but then now that I've given it some thought, I think going after the girl was a bad idea. Just because she was coming on to you, doesn't mean you can't reject her. Taking whatever comes along sounds like an issue of willpower in OP's case. Your friend might be lame, an arse, and terrible with women, but he's still your friend. Just ask the girl what her opinion is on your friend. If it's bad, you can both hate her, if it's good, you just send her his way.

Of course, after highschool I suggest you only look out for yourself.

Homies over hoes

**Khornholio**

@OP whatever you decide to do, never, ever, EVER, under any circumstances, tell her you asked a bunch of goons on a toy soldier forum for relationship advice.

That said, you should still try to nail it. Seriously, in a few years you'll be lucky to remember her last name.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

Khornholio wrote:@OP whatever you decide to do, never, ever, EVER, under any circumstances, tell her you asked a bunch of goons on a toy soldier forum for relationship advice.

That said, you should still try to nail it. Seriously, in a few years you'll be lucky to remember her last name.

I love when the mot recent post in a thread covers my initial instinct.

That being said, how hot/cool/attractive is the girl in question as opposed by how cool/reliable/beneficial your friend is? Go with which ever weighs the most here. No offense, but if she's a bit of a dog it may just not be worth it (though it pays not to be picky.)

**Asherian Command**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
Khornholio wrote:@OP whatever you decide to do, never, ever, EVER, under any circumstances, tell her you asked a bunch of goons on a toy soldier forum for relationship advice.

That said, you should still try to nail it. Seriously, in a few years you'll be lucky to remember her last name.

I love when the mot recent post in a thread covers my initial instinct.

That being said, how hot/cool/attractive is the girl in question as opposed by how cool/reliable/beneficial your friend is? Go with which ever weighs the most here. No offense, but if she's a bit of a dog it may just not be worth it (though it pays not to be picky.)

If shes super hot and has been an amazing friend she would be worth it?

**Velour_Fog**

loota boy wrote: i'm starting to wonder if this girl is worth a friend i've known sence 6th grade.

I also think that if you're asking yourself that question, then no, it isn't. I think the honourable thing to do would be to distance yourself from her for your friends sake. If she asks why you aren't showing any interest, tell her why. Hopefully she'll be mature enough to understand and respect that. Your friend could be a friend for life, whereas this girl is likely just a temporary infatuation.

**Orlanth**

loota boy wrote:Ok, I have a friend who is a total introvert most of the time, and doesn't really reach out to people much. But awhile back he started looking in to this one girl, and because he's normally not very outgoing, i encouraged him to go for it even though i'd been looking at the same girl for a bit myself. I figured, Hey, i've dated plenty of girls, and this is a good chance for him to open up and step out of his comfort zone. But it's been 2 months now, and he hasn't made a shot at all. And all the while the girl has been coming on to me. I started to like her a lot more than i did before, but i wanted to give my friend a chance. But he still wouldn't really go for it. I asked him if he was still interested, and when he was gunna make a move, but he kept giving me really vague answers that didn't really mean anything. So i just figured he lost intrested, and started working towards her myself. But he saw me talking to her, and immediatly knew what i was doing. He got really mad at me, and we started fighting a bit. He said that he was gunna make a move, but i was starting to like this girl alot, and i didn't want to just back down an wait anouther month for him to work up the nerve to say hi to her in the hallway. I told him that i'd give him anouther week to go for it, but if he just kept staring at her and hoping she would just fall in her lap i was going to go for it. He called me an donkey-cave and a tool, and i called him spineless and a wuss. We haven't talked to each other sence, and i'm starting to wonder if this girl is worth a friend i've known sence 6th grade. The girl is great, and i really like her, but i don't know if it's worth it. I feel every bit of an donkey-cave and a tool while i write this, but god, i love that girl... What should i do?

He hasnt moved.
You want to.
You have nothing to concern yourself about regarding your male friend, perhaps he will learn something if you get on with her.

If you do and it works, all is well.
If you do and it doesnt work, you gave it a shot.
In either case you can explain you gave your friend a whole month and more to act, with encouragement. He will likely get over it and forgive you, in fact you have been a real friend to him.

If you dont go after her - you may (likely will) be wondering 'What if' for a very long time. Your freind will forget you gave him the extra time, because after all you werent going to go after her either, so its void.

Frankly you have far more to lose by not making a move.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

Asherian Command wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
Khornholio wrote:@OP whatever you decide to do, never, ever, EVER, under any circumstances, tell her you asked a bunch of goons on a toy soldier forum for relationship advice.

That said, you should still try to nail it. Seriously, in a few years you'll be lucky to remember her last name.

I love when the mot recent post in a thread covers my initial instinct.

That being said, how hot/cool/attractive is the girl in question as opposed by how cool/reliable/beneficial your friend is? Go with which ever weighs the most here. No offense, but if she's a bit of a dog it may just not be worth it (though it pays not to be picky.)

If shes super hot and has been an amazing friend she would be worth it?

Pros and cons, basic economics my friend

**Corpsesarefun**

Do her, it won't last but chances are you won't be friends with him in 5 years anyway.

**loota boy**

Damn, this thread grew fast. Thanks for all the advice, i think im gunna go for it. I saw my friend the other day and he didn't seem all that hostile to me, in fact almost friendly. So it seems like he isn't really as in to her as i first made it out to be. Perhaps i can have my cake and eat it after all.

EDIT: I'm 16 btw, i saw some people wondering.

**timetowaste85**

Ahh, the old Peter Parker, Harry Osborn and Mary Jane situation. Remember, if your friend never makes a move and you do, he will eventually gain super powers, reveal his identity to her, beat your dad up, steal the girl after you get her, then you will save his life from alien goo. And probably die doing it. It's been done before

**Velour_Fog**

timetowaste85 wrote:Ahh, the old Peter Parker, Harry Osborn and Mary Jane situation. Remember, if your friend never makes a move and you do, he will eventually gain super powers, reveal his identity to her, beat your dad up, steal the girl after you get her, then you will save his life from alien goo. And probably die doing it. It's been done before

This ^^

He'll give her an upside-down kiss, and she'll be lost to you forever.

**metallifan**

timetowaste85 wrote:Ahh, the old Peter Parker, Harry Osborn and Mary Jane situation. Remember, if your friend never makes a move and you do, he will eventually gain super powers, reveal his identity to her, beat your dad up, steal the girl after you get her, then you will save his life from alien goo. And probably die doing it. It's been done before

A spider-man analogy in a dating advice thread. I do hope the irony of this is not lost on anyone

Well played, sir. Well played.

**Battle Brother Ambrosius**

I would say forget about your friend and start dating her. After all, she was interested in you, not him. If your mate wants to stalk her until the end of his life, fine. But there is nothing preventing you to date a girl you like.
Besides, I somehow think that you will be a better boyfriend to her than your awkward friend who does not have the nerve to even approach her. If he refuses to be your friend because of one silly girl, he does not deserve to be your friend at all. (And he will forgive you soon enough, you can count on that.)

**metallifan**

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:(And he will forgive you soon enough, you can count on that.)

Not true. My buddy found himself in the same boat - she was interested in him, not his wierd friend. Wierdo -was- nice, -was- normal, until buddy and the chick wierdo was after got together.

Before buddy and her were dating, wierdo once tried to B&E on them while they were doing the deed because he used to drive past her house several times a night and saw buddy's car ouside. Wierdo also stopped answering buddy's phone calls, and started spreading rumours about he and buddy's girlfriend going behind buddy's back. We went to the Ruckers he worked at to hang out, and he was working there that day. He hid in the supply closet the whole time we were there, and the guy he was working with was audibly screaming at him. In a Ruckers, that has to be pretty damn loud. He was fired and he now gives old people sponge baths at the hospital. No, I'm not kidding. He really does. But buddy still tries to call him from time to time and make amends.

Moral of the story is that you just can't judge someone on the surface.

**bombboy1252**

corpsesarefun wrote:Do her, it won't last but chances are you won't be friends with him in 5 years anyway.

Corpses has the right idea...

**Corpsesarefun**

Been in the situation before and when it comes down to it you are a teenager for chists sake, relationships and friendships now are little more than fun and should not be taken so seriously.

**Battle Brother Ambrosius**

metallifan wrote:
Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:(And he will forgive you soon enough, you can count on that.)

Not true. My buddy found himself in the same boat - she was interested in him, not his wierd friend Wierdo -was- nice, -was- normal, until buddy and the chick wierdo was after got together.

Before buddy and her were dating, wierdo once tried to B&E on them while they were doing the deed because he used to drive past her house several times a night and saw buddy's car ouside. Wierdo also stopped answering buddy's phone calls, and started spreading rumours about he and buddy's girlfriend going behind buddy's back. We went to the Ruckers he worked at to hang out, and he was working there that day. He hid in the supply closet the whole time we were there, and the guy he was working at was audibly screaming at him. In a Ruckers, that has to be pretty damn loud. He was fired and he now gives old people sponge baths at the hospital. No, I'm not kidding. He really does. But buddy still tries to call him from time to time and make amends.

Moral of the story is that you just can't judge someone on the surface.

Owch. Sounds awful

But still, I guess that depends on the person whose crush you "steal". I was once in a situation like this myself. The girl was all over me, and I knew he was my mate's big crush. I decided to date her anyway, and me and my friend were in bad terms for about a month. After that, I approached him and said I was sorry and felt bad for him ( I really was). He forgave me and apologized in turn for getting mad at me. He told me that he had found another girl, who seemed to be interested in him. After that apology, we became friends again, and we see each other daily. He is still dating that girl he found while being mad at me.