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Asherian Command wrote:Holy gak that is impressive. Sounds like a jason born scene!

...it was a lot less awesome and fluid than Bourne, just a bunch of kids grappling awkwardly and shouting about each others' mothers...regular schoolyard stuff...

I think it definitely happened.

When I was in second (or was it third?) I was constantly bullied by a fifth grader. I was squat, overweight, and pale as hell, the perfect target. At first it was the average insults and mud slinging. After ignoring it for the first quarter, it gets physical. He starts pushing me, tripping me in the halls, and flat-tiring me. Once, when walking home from school, he follows me, muttering insults from behind me, before finally walking in front of me and stopping me. He punched me in the gut, winding me, and then, he shoved me over. I pulled myself into a sitting position, gasping in an attempt to hold back tears. This bully leaned down to sneer at me, and I strike forward, latching onto his arm and sinking my teeth in. He started screaming and shaking me, at one point lifting me from the ground. I finally let go, and he runs away. It left marks for weeks.

I once stared at a bully so intensely that he killed himself, true story.

Albatross wrote:I think it definitely happened.

I agree with alby.

I mean once I tore out a bullies lungs and replaced them with giant tortoises.

I used to get verbally bullied every day during a study hall, until one day I was fed up with all his bull crap claims. After mentioning something about beating me up, I stood up and told him to punch me in the face, right there. He made up some dumb excuse and all his friends laughed at him.

I feel I walked away the better man. I still hate him 100% and wish the worst on him, but you would too if you met him

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Aside from a bit of flak in the 1st or 2nd grade for being a bit chubby ( which ended when I punched a kid in the nose) I didn't experiance being bullied...I "grew into my extra pounds" ( shooting up in height) and went through the rest of grade, junior and high school fairly unscathed , reasonably popular and aside from an occasional comment about my style of dress ( pink taffeta) pretty non-confrontational..a few fights here and there....but nothing I'd consider being " bullied"...
I did see a few kids in school who did catch a lot of flak, now and again my friends ( Punks/Metal heads group) would " step in"...tell the kids who were picking on some guy to leave him alone...nothing particularly " heroic"...just point out that they were "wimps" for ganging up on one guy...stuff like that, but I'd often wonder why many of the kids I'd see being picked on never stood up for themselves...

Fear.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

Cheesecat wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

Or take your stuff and put you in the hospital. Depends on the bullies doesn't it.

Frazzled wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

Or take your stuff and put you in the hospital. Depends on the bullies doesn't it.

Those are sociopaths or psychopaths.

DukeBadham wrote:Fear.

Well...yes, but...wouldn't it be better ( since the individule is being bullied anyway) to stand up...take a beating if it happens and attempt to retain some self respect, rather than just stand there and take it?
I knew some of the guys who did the bullying ( I played football for 4 years)...and most of them backed off when a kids they were messing with stood up for themselves.

Cheesecat wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

Or take your stuff and put you in the hospital. Depends on the bullies doesn't it.

Those are sociopaths or psychopaths.

I'm sorry, what did you think a bully was again?

Cheesecat wrote:Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

And find someone else to torture that will react to them...ignoring just displaces the problem. Most bullies wont stop when "authorities" get involved temporarily either and they get a slap on the hand, in fact that just makes them more inclined to bully.

There's a point where ignoring a problem doesn't fix it...you gotta stand up for yourself...

Frazzled wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
"Some words of advice first off when someone bullies you the best thing to do is to show no reaction to them whatsoever bullies love to see dramatic reactions the more boring you are to them the less likely they'll enjoy making you miserable. Think of bullies as internet trolls, trolls are deliberately trying to cause inflammatory remarks in order to get attention just like bullies, so don't feed the trolls or in this case the bullies.

"Don't let them make you angry." "Pretend you don't notice." "Don't listen to them.0

Bovine excrement. Complete and utter nonsense. I still get the urge to stab people everytime I see or hear someone saying the above.

Are you truly ignoring them? are you making no eye contact, no sound, or emotion to there verbal or physical abuse? Because it may not go away immediately but if you keep up with it the bullies will eventually

get bored with you and leave.

Or take your stuff and put you in the hospital. Depends on the bullies doesn't it.

Those are sociopaths or psychopaths.

I'm sorry, what did you think a bully was again?

That's a pretty broad generalization there Frazz...while I'm not condoning " bully behavior" , to say that all kids who " bully" are sociopaths or psychos is just not true...
In nature we see examples of the heard " driving away" the " weak/ different/ outsider" what have you...in many cases bullying is just an extention of that sort of behavior.

Bullying should be solved with one thing; the weaker kid beating the hell out of the bully. So I say we find kids being bullied, pump them up and teach them how to engage fisticuffs. Then after training we give them a fake mustache of fisticuffs quality and have the two go at it.

halonachos wrote:Bullying should be solved with one thing; the weaker kid beating the hell out of the bully. So I say we find kids being bullied, pump them up and teach them how to engage fisticuffs. Then after training we give them a fake mustache of fisticuffs quality and have the two go at it.

And then we give them all Heinekens right?

But Frazzled, I'm a small skinny kid and would often be gakking out my own teeth if I fought some of those bullies. So ignoring them is rather effective for me.

And often its not.

All this stuff about "just face up to them." Some bullies are cowards. Other bullies like to hurt people.

halonachos wrote:Bullying should be solved with one thing; the weaker kid beating the hell out of the bully. So I say we find kids being bullied, pump them up and teach them how to engage fisticuffs. Then after training we give them a fake mustache of fisticuffs quality and have the two go at it.

... ...Yes, I like this idea.

...Really all I'm saying is that in general ( not always) if someone is being bullied and stands up for themselves the " bullies' will most often move on, sure the kid who stands up for himself might get beat up...but if he dishes out a few licks of his own, then that's perhaps one or two bloody noses he'll have to contend with rather than years of being victimized...not that bad of a trade off to keep some shred of self esteem in tact.
... When my own son was having trouble with some of the kids at his school I gave him the same advice...he got in one fight, I had to go to a " parent/teacher talk" and he's had zero problems since then...

Frazzled wrote:And often its not.

All this stuff about "just face up to them." Some bullies are cowards. Other bullies like to hurt people.

Yeah but most bullies don't like to be hurt and if they know that you can hurt them back they usually leave you alone.

halonachos wrote:Bullying should be solved with one thing; the weaker kid beating the hell out of the bully. So I say we find kids being bullied, pump them up and teach them how to engage fisticuffs. Then after training we give them a fake mustache of fisticuffs quality and have the two go at it.

Fighting them doesn't always work, you may have bruise there pride the first time but now they come back wanting to strike twice as hard. Some of these bullies come from abusive households where they have

to defend themselves against a middle-aged man twice there size you think you know more about fighting than they do? You think they're going to be phased by your little victory or they going to be

demanding a rematch thinking that you just got lucky (and probably did)?

Yeah, you need to convince them they don't WANT to fight you, not want to make them fight you more...

halonachos wrote:

Frazzled wrote:And often its not.

All this stuff about "just face up to them." Some bullies are cowards. Other bullies like to hurt people.

Yeah but most bullies don't like to be hurt and if they know that you can hurt them back they usually leave you alone.

Or, again, they put you in the hospital.

Melissia wrote:Yeah, you need to convince them they don't WANT to fight you, not want to make them fight you more...

This comes from someone who use to think fighting solved bullying, sure it was awesome when I beat them but just about everyone of them wasn't afraid of a rematch after a while I realized it's better to

ignore them than to try and humiliate them, unless you like being force fed your own spleen. The only time fighting solves bullying is in those underdog stories you see in Hollywood movies.

Cheesecat wrote:This comes from someone who use to think fighting solved bullying, sure it was awesome when I beat them but just about everyone of them wasn't afraid of a rematch after a while I realized it's better to

ignore them than to try and humiliate them, unless you like being force fed your own spleen. The only time fighting solves bullying is in those underdog stories you see in Hollywood movies.

Now that's just not true. I've had too many friends that took a stand and solved their own problem to believe that. Besides, after a scrap, the staff of the school (usually anyway) sits up and notices, depending on their competence, they will usually take the right action and punish the neer do wells.

I moved around a lot as a kid. Usually, kids at the new school were pretty cool and didn't cause any problems. Add to this the fact that I was 6' tall by 6th grade and you're unlikely to see lots of problems.

However, one high school I was at I did encounter a bit of a bully situation. The kid shoved me around in the hall and I tried to ignore him (as usual).

Eventually, I had enough. He threw something at me in the hall and I turned to see him laughing with his friends. I walked up to him, and asked him what his problem was. In typical bully fashion (I could easily identify all the bullies in each of the 8 or so schools I attended), he started cracking a joke about me.

So I kicked him in the balls and when he went down to his knees, swung my backpack (containing 4 heavy textbooks) down on his back as hard as I could.

A simple "don't feth with me" as he cried on the ground ended his bullying. I suppose he decided to pick on someone else.

Learn to fight dirty and you'll never have a problem with bullies. It's fortunate for him that I didn't start taking martial arts until after that event. I hadn't yet learned how to break someone's kneecap.

Lots of tough guys here.

Cheesecat wrote:

Melissia wrote:Yeah, you need to convince them they don't WANT to fight you, not want to make them fight you more...

This comes from someone who use to think fighting solved bullying, sure it was awesome when I beat them but just about everyone of them wasn't afraid of a rematch after a while I realized it's better to

ignore them than to try and humiliate them, unless you like being force fed your own spleen. The only time fighting solves bullying is in those underdog stories you see in Hollywood movies.

Well, I admit it's been a few decades since I roamed the hallways of high school, but in my experiance the kids who stood up for themselves tended to not be victimized....but I'm sure " bulling" has evolved ( devolved?) to something " other than it once was"..and is now somehow different.
...But, then again...my son stood up to his " bullies" and has since gone a two years with out being " picked on".