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ineptus astartes wrote:They used to do this in America too you know. besides, we opened our borders to foreigners
I know it did, what's your point?

Oh wait there isn't one because I never said that America's history was clean, only that right now it's at least better than Nepal.

Intentioanlly permanently injuring and causing permanent mental damage to a child (the story posted earlier of a nepalese principle sending death threats to a student who the principle SENT IN A COMA comes to mind) makes you a bad parent/caretaker. Nationality is irrelevant.

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Frazzled wrote:
Necroshea wrote:So by choosing to go to that party without her parents consent, she set the plans in motion to get taken away from her parents.

Also, if it was any sort of armor, it takes a bit of time to put it on. If the parents waited until it was on to give her a thumping, why didn't she just...you know...not put it on? She's already show she's perfectly fine with disobeying her parents at other times.


Maybe because he was punching her in the face until she put the armor on, or just beating her with the rod?


Who knows. This story seems incomplete to me.

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ineptus astartes wrote:Yes folks, lets say rude things about other peoples countries' because they do what has been done for millennia!


Because something has been done for a long time makes it right?

Nope, Chuck Testa.

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Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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Necroshea wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Necroshea wrote:So by choosing to go to that party without her parents consent, she set the plans in motion to get taken away from her parents.

Also, if it was any sort of armor, it takes a bit of time to put it on. If the parents waited until it was on to give her a thumping, why didn't she just...you know...not put it on? She's already show she's perfectly fine with disobeying her parents at other times.


Maybe because he was punching her in the face until she put the armor on, or just beating her with the rod?


Who knows. This story seems incomplete to me.


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Melissia wrote:
ineptus astartes wrote:They used to do this in America too you know. besides, we opened our borders to foreigners
I know it did, what's your point?

Oh wait there isn't one because I never said that America's history was clean, only that right now it's at least better than Nepal.

Intentioanlly permanently injuring and causing permanent mental damage to a child (the story posted earlier of a nepalese principle sending death threats to a student who the principle SENT IN A COMA comes to mind) makes you a bad parent/caretaker. Nationality is irrelevant.



and? I know a kid who was forced to climb a power pole and got electrocuted. he was forced by his principe and is fine now. we live in a world that just stopped having feudal kingdoms and the ultimate rule of the King about 5 years ago.


a wise man once said: 'what does not kill us makes us strong' besides, I am not the one loosing it and flipping out on the internet.



Wy can't you just understand that people are not all like you. and never will be.


(Note, I am not intending to piss anybody off, but stick to my principles, if a mod dislikes this argument just tell me and I will stop.)

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ineptus astartes wrote:I know a kid who was forced to climb a power pole and got electrocuted. he was forced by his principe and is fine now. we live in a world that just stopped having feudal kingdoms and the ultimate rule of the King about 5 years ago.
Yeah, that principle is a piece of trash who shouldn't be trusted with the lives of children.

Next you'll be saying a parent sexually assaulting their child just toughens them up.

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ineptus astartes wrote:
and Dreadwinter, I m originally from america, so I can understand what you seem to be saying, but 90 precent of people in this country (Nepal) would say 'so what?' to this topic. My cousin (age 6) has been beaten with a broom (bundle of twigs and branches) and then ordered to go and slop out the buffalo pens for causing a mess, I had no adverse reaction to this, it is the norm for most of the world (IE: a world mainly not represented on Dakka.)


So, what you are telling me is that Nepal is a country that has not developed to the point of realizing that beating a child is bad?

Also, a broom? Really? That doesn't even compare to a tree branch and being punched. I probably would have laughed at that because the parent would have looked slowed doing it.
   
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not really, the broom IS a tree branch.


Anyways, I wil withdraw from this thread as I do not wish to start a flame war and it seems a pair of users are too small-minded to see my point of view.


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No no. At 16 the youngins are dangerous. They might be able to take you out. My boy is like a rock, an immovable rock (I know. If we get within two feet of each other round 327 of 'who can make the other one move' will spontaneously erupt). Even the almost 13 year old daughter is nearly as tall as the Wife and has taken to starting their own version of push mom around.
Thats why you take away their cellphone.


And my wife wonders why I told her our children need to fear and love us equally. She's 5'1 if she doesn't establish dominance early we are going to get overrun by the teens. That's why I'm getting her a great Dane as a preview *wink*.

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Yes folks, lets say rude things about other peoples countries' because they do what has been done for millennia!

They used to do this in America too you know. besides, we opened our borders to foreigners what? forty years ago? We were still using swords mostly.

How would o you like it if I started to talk trash about America, huh? not that I would mean it, I like it there, but-oh, wait, I am getting sucked int an argument, trolls love that.

And yes, you have been trolling. I was merely stating my opinion.

We were using swords mostly in 1971? Do you live in the Same United States I do?

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ineptus astartes wrote:not really, the broom IS a tree branch.


Anyways, I wil withdraw from this thread as I do not wish to start a flame war and it seems a pair of users are too small-minded to see my point of view.



No, they see your view.

They just find it abhorrent. "Child abuse is a-ok" is abhorrent to most of us.

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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ineptus astartes wrote:not really, the broom IS a tree branch.


Anyways, I wil withdraw from this thread as I do not wish to start a flame war and it seems a pair of users are too small-minded to see my point of view.

I see your point of view. I think it is nonsense. Forcing a child to jump on power line, electrocute themselves half to death and probably drop down all the way to the ground without any supports is dangerous and frankly something only a psychopath would do.

Psychopaths shouldn't be trusted to be AROUND children, nevermind have the lives of children placed in their demented hands.

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Eh. I just hate it when people say "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!" when in fact yes, I do get it, but I disagree.

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Someone once told me that "hurt people hurt people."

That armor that they gave her wasn't to give her an equal shot.

It was to justify hitting her harder.

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Still say they should have deleted her Facebook, she could have worn armor while they deleted her pics one by one if the were that attached to the idea.

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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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Cheesecat wrote:
ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.


Also unlike her I don't think you were forced against your will when you were sparring.


And your cousins are probably roughly the same experience level and size as you, she was fighting someone more than twice her age, who is a renaissance enthusiast, and so probebly knows his way around a sword much better than her.

   
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I seriously can't justify a certain poster's point of view, but won't comment further. What the hell.

This story is terrible regardless of further context.

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Fething cosplayers. I swear.

Someone commented before but after reading that story of the archer lass who shot her dad makes me think...Is this a sign?

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Shadowbrand wrote:Fething cosplayers. I swear.

Someone commented before but after reading that story of the archer lass who shot her dad makes me think...Is this a sign?


"I shot my daddy.
but I didn't roll no d20..."

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Shadowbrand wrote:Fething cosplayers. I swear.

Someone commented before but after reading that story of the archer lass who shot her dad makes me think...Is this a sign?
That threateng to go medevil on someones ass carries more wieght?

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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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I guess so. Lol


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Shadowbrand wrote:Fething cosplayers. I swear.

Someone commented before but after reading that story of the archer lass who shot her dad makes me think...Is this a sign?

Dad failed 6+ ward save :x

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Shoulda used lightsabres, then this thread woulda totally been different.

   
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Cheesecat wrote:
ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.


Women have a lower pain threshold than men and usually have less muscle mass as well. That being said I don't think anyone deserves to be hit unless they've been very naughty.


Actually, I've heard women have a much higher pain threshold than men.




It's just something I've heard, though I feel it is rather supported by pushing a good twelve pounds of screaming, howling angry mass out of their Vagoo....

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Feth them throw them in jail!

Give the kid 50,000 dollars and let her sell the knight armor.

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Pfff, she should of learned how to defend her self better. Serves her right
   
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Slarg232 wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
ineptus astartes wrote:And this is bad...how?

where I live, if a kid acts up he gets the broom or the belt.

While beating with a tree branch is a bit over the top, a duel is letting her off light.

I mean, yes armor is heavy but I have sparred with my cousins for hours and hours straight.


Women have a lower pain threshold than men and usually have less muscle mass as well. That being said I don't think anyone deserves to be hit unless they've been very naughty.


Actually, I've heard women have a much higher pain threshold than men.




It's just something I've heard, though I feel it is rather supported by pushing a good twelve pounds of screaming, howling angry mass out of their Vagoo....

There's a difference between threshold and tolerance.

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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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I hate people now - a - days...

What on earth could have compelled them to make her dress in armor, than beat her with a wooden sword....


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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
 
   
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ineptus astartes wrote:Look man, I'm not saying I would like to stand on the sidelines egging the guy on, but minus the tree branch and the punching it did not seem overly bad.


"Oh, other than the child abuse the child abuse didn't seem that bad."

I am just a bit disappointed that the girl could not hold her own, we take physical endurance very seriously here, it just seems to me that all these coddled kids nowadays in the States are made of styrofoam.


After being beaten, she couldn't hold her own with a grown man, over the course of two hours. Oh, the shame of it.

You're being ridiculous.


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Necroshea wrote:So by choosing to go to that party without her parents consent, she set the plans in motion to get taken away from her parents.


She set in motion a reasonable course of punishment. What she suffered was miles beyond that. This is obvious.

Also, if it was any sort of armor, it takes a bit of time to put it on. If the parents waited until it was on to give her a thumping, why didn't she just...you know...not put it on? She's already show she's perfectly fine with disobeying her parents at other times.


...because there's a difference between disobeying your parents while you're away from the house, and disobeying your father while he's standing next to you, having just punched you and beaten you with a stick.


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ineptus astartes wrote:And yes, you have been trolling. I was merely stating my opinion.


Your opinion is that a man who punched and beat his daughter with a stick, then forced her to duel for two hours until she collapsed has some kind of defence. Your opinion is ridiculous.


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ineptus astartes wrote:Wy can't you just understand that people are not all like you. and never will be.


Assuming Nepal is completely okay with completely disproportionate acts of violence against minors... then I still have no idea what that has to do with an act of punishment carried out in the US.


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Necroshea wrote:He said he's done with the conversation guys. Drop it.


If he didn't want people pointing out his opinion was ridiculous, he shouldn't have offered up a ridiculous opinion. You don't get to pick and choose what other people are allowed to comment on.

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