Dakka decides the Deadliest 40k warrior ****"She's dead, Jim****

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**DarthSpader**

And the brother captain walks off with the win. Next up, the sm master vrs the DE Haemonculs.

My gut says this one edges towards the SM, but those Haemonculis are tricky buggers. Plus since DE are my main army I gotta root for em

even though I remain impartial and don't vote.

**DarthSpader**

last day for this match and the SM Master has this one it appears, well in hand...er Fist.

also, shamless <bump>

**DarthSpader**

And then there were four....

the SM master wins his match up with 63%. next up, the battle to determine the best MC of the entries. the winner of this one gets a bye to fight the winner of the finals

**DarthSpader**

Today is the start of the semi finals. both the necron overlord and the herald of khorne have fought tooth and nail to make it this far.... alas, there can be only one!!

the overlord has defeated the tau shas'o and a dark eldar archon to get here, while the herald took down Black templar high marshall, and an orc warboss for the right to this fight. neither of these guys has had a cake walk, so this should be one of the best yet.

**Sasori**

Necron Overlord, hands down.

**DarthSpader**

Last match up, to determine the final combatant in the finals. The winner of this one between the brother captain and the master will fight the Necron overlord for the chance to take on the hive tyrant for the title.

Also, once this matchup is completed on monday june 4th, and the deadliest warrior crowned, I'll begin the special character battle - continuing on in this thread. The match will start with a "vote in" to determine the entrants, and will be a battle between each codex's special characters. So please start posting your submissions.

**King Pariah**

Wouldn't the combo of a SS and PF put the SM master at an advantage? sure he'd hit last but he'd have a 3++ for survivability, hit a S8 which is not good for any MEQ, and doesn't he have a higher WS?

**DarthSpader**

i think the kicker is the MSS on this. the sa3me thing happened to the the archon. he had a better WS, a power weapon, shadow field etc, but due to those MSS the overlord took it. either that or we have a ton of necron fans/players voting and very few space marine players or fans.

**Lobokai**

Doesn't matter GK fanboys will carry this one.

**Lord Rogukiel**

SM would definately win. SS and powerfist...

**DarthSpader**

the final battle is upon us. we have the Brother Captain up against the overlord. who will win?

the winner takes on the hive tyrant for the title.

- for the next series, will be doing the special charatcers. post any codex SC to nominate them for the match.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
well ill get the special characters nominations started with mine and a few friends. only restrictions are: no armor values of any kind, and single model units only. in the case of gaurd the character fights solo, (as if he joined the correct unit and that unit was killed off) for tau, the same thing. drones etc are assumed killed off earlier in the battle.

- Asdruebael vect
- calgar
- urien rakerith
- kharn

all nominated characters will then be placed into a vote - in, with a set amount of votes to allow them in.

**King Pariah**

If the GK fails MSS (which has a strong chance of happening, around what, 50%?), he's almost guaranteed to wound himself (Quick guesstimation here says over 95% chance he's going to beat his own face in with his hammer) and with his Iron Halo conferring a 4++ he's got a... correct me if my guesstimation is significantly off, but near 70% chance he's going to fail the save and ID himself. And then there's the tesseract labyrinth also, which the GK has a 50% chance of failing and being automatically removed from play. And if it makes it past that, There's a chance that the Necron Overlord will hit first (stupid ridiculous Ward nades...), at S7. Not looking great for the Brother Capt.

And the Overlord has about a 30% (guesstimating here) chance of ID'ing the Bro Capt with his Tachyon arrow

Moving on to the Special Character shebang, I nominate:

Duke Sliscus
Abaddon
The Swarmlord
Skarbrand
Fateweaver

**Sasori**

The Necron Overlord should take it.

**IcedAnimals**

I would be curious to see how far Celestine makes it in the voting. Being a t3 hero without immunity to instant death is going to cripple her chances. But people have seen her get back up enough times I think she would get quite a few votes. Other than that I nominate the skulltaker!

**Lord Rogukiel**

Overlord is easily going to win this.

I nominate Yriel!

**DarthSpader**

the final battle... hive tyrant vrs overlord.

for the special characters heres the nominations so far:

- calgar
- vect
-urien rakerith
- kharn the betrayer
- Duke Sliscus
- Abaddon
- The Swarmlord
- Skarbrand
- Fateweaver
- skulltaker
- prince yriel

thats 11 entrants so far. we need 16 to get this going properly.

**Siphen**

Overlord should win this, hands down. That build is perfect for 1-on-1 combat. Str 10 to insta-gib characters, labyrinth for MC, 2+/3++, Str 7 power weapon, MSS...

I nominate:
Kaldor Draigo
Ghazghkull
Saint Celestine
Logan Grimnar

**The Crusader**

I nominate Grimaldus, Hero of Helsreach

**Sasori**

I'm fairly surprised at all the votes for the Hive Tyrant. The Necron Overlord should beat a Hive Tyrant in CC fairly easy. The Hive Tyrant has no Invul save, and the lashwhip is fairly useless, since the Overlord is I2 anyway.

The Bonesword also requires the Overlord to fail his 3++ THEN he has to fail a LD 10 test, to cause ID. He then still can get back up, thanks to RP.

Even without MSS going off, the Necron Overlord would likely Kill the HT in in no more than 3 rounds, while it would take an average of two rounds for the HT to cause a single unsaved wound to the Overlord.

If MSS goes off, it's overkill.

**ZebioLizard2**

Pretty much, just what Sasori said, the necron Overlord is miles ahead of the Hive Tyrant.

**King Pariah**

The Necron Overlord has become a unit that can easily compete with many of the top CC contenders when fully decked out and the Overlord with a lord court decked out is definitely one of the more frightening death stars out there.

With just MSS taken into account, you're looking at the Hive Tyrant wounding himself on a 4+ so with a statline attack value, that's 2 wounds he'll inflict upon himself that he can't roll a single save against, AND he has to take a leadership test which, if he fails, will cause him to inflict Instant death upon himself (pity he doesn't have twin boneswords so then he'd have to roll it on a 3D6 which would have left him with a roughly 50% chance of ID'ing himself

) So all in all, you're looking at a 50% chance that the Hive Tyrant ends up wounding himself twice before combat even starts and a 25% chance of killing himself by the beginning of the 2nd round of combat. If Tesseract labyrinth is used at the start of the second, that alone will be a 66.667% chance of removing the Hive Tyrant from play. Combined with MSS, that's like a 80% chance (within the second round of combat) that the Hive Tyrant will disappear from the board before combat even starts.

When IN combat, sure, the Hive Tyrant has a higher chance of landing hits upon the Overlord with his WS 8, but the Overlord can defend against the hits with his 3++. The Hive Tyrant on the other hand, cannot defend against successful wounds from the Overlord as all the Tyrant has is a 2+. The odds are not in the favor of the Hive Tyrant. (Note: all successful individual hits from both the Overlord and the Tyrant have the same chance of wounding)

**DarthSpader**

still.. pretty awsome for the overlord taking down everyone here, AND having good odds on the tyrant... probally one of the best (and IS the best of the submitted) MC.

this one is so close in the voting its hard to see who will take it.

**rockerbikie**

I nominate Huron Blackheart.

**McNinja**

42 votes. Split down the middle.

**DarthSpader**

yup. this ones neck and neck.

definitily the closest match so far....wich is good for the championship methinks. a cakewalk woulda been dissapointing.

**King Pariah**

Well, I'm glad this'll be at least a close match.

**rigeld2**

It pains me to do so, but I had to vote Overlord. The Hive Tyrant is simply outclassed. The lack of an invul, the teaseract labyrinth... He'd get dominated. Which is kind of pathetic if you think about it.

**Kain**

Who are all the people voting for the Hive Tyrant? Any Tyrant build short of the Swarmlord itself will get massacred by an Overlord for numerous reasons already stated here.

**King Pariah**

I'm gonna just assume that haters are gonna hate and not listen to reason.

sigh...

**Kain**

I love the Tyranids and even I recognize that this is not a fair match up. The Hive Tyrant is nowhere close to the Overlord in melee ability. If you're going to vote for the clearly inferior unit then you should at least come out and give your darned reasons!