Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/28 18:29:55
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
|
Oh, have I got one for this
Fateweaver deepstrikes in, scatters onto terrain, rolls a 1 for dangerous terrain, 1 for his save, 1 for his re-roll, and 10 for leadership.
2 Daemon princes that came down with him both got hit Imotekh's lightning that same turn, both get 6 hits, both die.
773 points gone before anyone's fired a shot.
/thread.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/28 20:10:12
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
|
DarkCorsair wrote:Oh, have I got one for this
Fateweaver deepstrikes in, scatters onto terrain, rolls a 1 for dangerous terrain, 1 for his save, 1 for his re-roll, and 10 for leadership.
2 Daemon princes that came down with him both got hit Imotekh's lightning that same turn, both get 6 hits, both die.
773 points gone before anyone's fired a shot.
/thread.
I've read stories of 10-man Paladin squads mishapping off the table. It makes me giggle. I have played against a Daemon player who had almost every unit in his preferred wave mishap and die though, that was unfortunate but hilarious.
|
Check out my Youtube channel!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 21:03:14
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Lord of the Fleet
|
hotsauceman1 wrote:lord_blackfang wrote:hotsauceman1 wrote:So, In a game today (C:SM vs. Crons.) I had a whirlwind.
in 5 turns of fighting it did jack. killed one immortal and maybe 3 lych guard.
So about its own points worth of models?
Doesnt matter, Still did jack. those missles need a Higher strengh, or i,m buying a vindicator next time i face crons.
Would have done great if i remembered to make my opponent take a pining test, those lych guard may not have made it. or the immortals
It killed it's own points in models and could have been more useful if you'd remembered all it's rules.
That makes it rubbish?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 22:40:43
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Member of the Ethereal Council
|
To me, To win a KP game(which what the game was) it should get double the points. That is just me though. YMMV
But i got another, Two game in a row my DS Dreadnought gets deep into enemy terrain.
1st game, Someone shoots a missile at is rear AV through the drop pod it landed in(i didn't know you can shoot through open topped vehicles) it explodes
2nd: An avatar of war destroys it.
And in the same second game, a melta squad in a drop pod gets off the tables and earns my opponent 2 more KP
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 22:45:53
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
|
Pretty much anything i touch most nights, dice gods hate me  seriously last tuesday, my GK vs DE at 1000points, hits 90% of the time (the rest being a psycannon rolling all 1s x3). Wounded maybe 20%. end of the game id killed off maybe 4 models with another 6 to dangerous terrain tests -_-
|
- 1250 points
Empire of the Blazing Sun (Combined Theaters)- 1950 points
FUBAR Starship Troopers- Would you like to know more?
GENERATION 9: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 22:59:26
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Spawn of Chaos
|
Abbadon.
Every game has failed at least two daemonic weapon rolls. The last game I used him he lost all four wounds in four consecutive assault phases.
---
I have since switched to Kharn because I at least expect him to be a jerk.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 07:43:29
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
where am I? *looks around* Well i'm...errr...I...I...don't know!
|
I have a new one from yesterday where I was testing a CF list against IG that actually did something by doing nothing...A LRBT was immobilised turn one, turn two a vindicator lost its demolisher cannon so It started driving full speed ahead. It rams the leman Russ, does nothing to it and in return blows up. Then a razorback does the same, does nothing and gets immobilised in return... Great fun.
|
MAY YER BOLTER NAE FALTER!!!! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/31 08:01:22
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Mutilatin' Mad Dok
|
hotsauceman1 wrote:lord_blackfang wrote:hotsauceman1 wrote:So, In a game today (C:SM vs. Crons.) I had a whirlwind.
in 5 turns of fighting it did jack. killed one immortal and maybe 3 lych guard.
So about its own points worth of models?
Doesnt matter, Still did jack. those missles need a Higher strengh, or i,m buying a vindicator next time i face crons.
Would have done great if i remembered to make my opponent take a pining test, those lych guard may not have made it. or the immortals
So you're saying it did nothing because you forgot to make him take a pinning check, and because of this you're swapping it for a Vindicator, despite it taking about it's own points in Necrons (no easy feat, I may add)? Just play it again, and don't forget to make them take the pinning check. Derp.
In other news, my friend used to run a Bloodthirster in his Chaos Marine army before the Codex nerf. He played 3 games against me with it, and had horrific luck, one time it got killed by Gretchin shooting attacks, one time in a 3 way game by a unit of Gun Drones, and one time by two Stormboyz in close combat. We even nicknamed him Azaroth the Completely Useless.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/31 08:01:38
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 13:49:33
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Lord of the Fleet
|
hotsauceman1 wrote:To me, To win a KP game(which what the game was) it should get double the points. That is just me though. YMMV
If that's your criteria then at least half your army is going perform below-par even when you win....
In fact, all of your army could be below par despite inflicting a crushing defeat.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/01 13:50:45
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 16:48:16
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Member of the Ethereal Council
|
Ok, Maybe i was wrong.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 16:50:41
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Lord of the Fleet
|
Playing chess one day. Poor Queen couldnt kill anything without risking death
I am very bad at Chess
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/01 16:50:59
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 18:47:07
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
|
kenshin620 wrote:Playing chess one day. Poor Queen couldnt kill anything without risking death
I am very bad at Chess
Remember, in the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces.
|
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 18:57:17
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
|
Well this didn't happen to me, but it was a member of my team doing a 4500 point six man team game, He took a fully tooled vangaurd vet squad in a drop pod with 2 Hqs, the unit costed close to 1k points, deep strikes off the board and dies. turn 1.
My chaos lord with a daemon weapon... i roll sixes for the number of attacks, and yet he hasn't killed a single model yet. My lord with power weapon has died to 1 plague marine because of lack of hits,
turn 1, a def coppa assaults my wave serpent with howling banshees in it, blow up the wave serpent, kills half the unit and they run off the board.
And last but not least, a 10 man squad of dire avengers assault a godfex from 4ed, and they stick in combat for the entire game. epic god fex fail. 175 points tying up over 300 points the entire game.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 21:57:19
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Boosting Space Marine Biker
|
I play infinity..so i dont realy have that problem too often iust me using them wrong.
but in 40k deff has to be techmarine
|
your plasma weapon may be used as an explosive device in case of emergency
Welcome to the internet, and specifically a gaming forum.
If your choice of game is not made in a blood oath that can only be broken by a quest and vow made with the most overwrought dramatics, then you aren't doing it right. -curran12 |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/01 22:27:18
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I don't usually experience this kind of problem where it really injures my game. Often I have the opposite exprience where everyone scoffs at my command squad packed with grenade launchers. Right until they ripped the space marines to shreds, because, as it turns out, space marines don't respond well to strength 6 weapons.
I find my biggest "did nothing" usually turns out to be expensive weapons. That shoot only once. Like Lascannon..... I'll experience the same thing with missile launchers.
|
15 successful trades as a buyer;
16 successful trades as a seller;
To glimpse the future, you must look to the past and understand it. Names may change, but human behavior repeats itself. Prophetic insight is nothing more than profound hindsight.
It doesn't matter how bloody far the apple falls from the tree. If the apple fell off of a Granny Smith, that apple is going to grow into a Granny bloody Smith. The only difference is whether that apple grows in the shade of the tree it fell from. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 01:43:23
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
|
When I had my Eldar, my Fire Prism couldn't hit the broadside of barndoor, UNLESS the target was WAY on the other side of the board, or near it's max range. But get close especially inside 24" inch range of the model or so, and it would always miss. Even when my Farseer guided the thing it missed.
My Chaos army's Havoc squad and my TL Las, Las sponson Pred are that armies underperformers The 2 ML, 2 LC Havoc squad only hits infantry models...they occassionly hit the vechiles they shoot at but they never kill them. The Pred though never made it's points back in any game and often cost me games because it'd blow up like a dynamite shack, soaked in gasoline...on fire.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 18:40:38
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
|
Playing kill teams.
I had a unit of 7 guardsmen armed with plasma rifles.
I went first and managed to kill 6 of the 7 with "Gets Hot" before my opponent rolled a single dice.
|
Sir Isaac Newton may be the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space, but John von Neumann is the logistics officer that eats your problems and turns them into kit. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 01:50:58
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Boom! Leman Russ Commander
|
5 thunder-hammer storm-shield terminators walk into a bar.
HAH, LIKE THEY COULD EVER DO NOTHING.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 02:47:02
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
|
FacelessMage wrote:Playing kill teams.
I had a unit of 7 guardsmen armed with plasma rifles.
I went first and managed to kill 6 of the 7 with "Gets Hot" before my opponent rolled a single dice.
My favorite is when a squad of plasma guns gets so many overheats that they take 25% casualties, fail morale, and fall back off the table. It's even better when it's in your company command squad.
|
Check out my Youtube channel!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 03:06:26
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
San Antonio, TX
|
My Thunderwolf Cavalry consistently underperforms, other SW players might be surprised to hear. Supposedly they're some of the baddest units in the game, but half of mine die to standard fire before reaching their target, the rest die a turn or two later. My terrible dice rolls don't help.
|
Church of Kelly! Asdrubael Vect is my primarch.
3000+ pts 1500 pts
3000+ pts 1000 pts
2000 pts 2000+ pts
??? pts |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 01:43:37
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Sergeant
|
PapaPiggy wrote:Well this didn't happen to me, but it was a member of my team doing a 4500 point six man team game, He took a fully tooled vangaurd vet squad in a drop pod with 2 Hqs, the unit costed close to 1k points, deep strikes off the board and dies. turn 1.
I have seen a bunch of posts similar to this. Don't get froggy with 1k point units! On a standard 6x4 board, there are 8 square feet where you can deepstrike your models that are not within 12" of a board edge. This is a particularly unforgivable offense with Drop pods and spores that negate terrain. Just put the thing somewhere else. It is easy to get single-minded about where you want your models to go. Bend like the reed, and land them somewhere else. Fate will by necessity float your fancy unit right off of the board. /endrant
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 04:11:50
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Storm Trooper with Maglight
|
Brother SRM wrote:Vaercathor wrote:Ork aircraft. The tail gunner cannot engage a separate target, rendering it useless.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's something that will change in 6th when we get proper rules for aircraft. The Marauder bomber also has a tail gunner, and I would assume that some other aircraft would get similar guns. Besides, the damn thing's not even out yet.
The Marauders a superheavy so all of its guns can shoot at different targets unless I'm remembering wrong.
|
3200 points > 5400 points
2500 points |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 09:51:30
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Commanding Orc Boss
|
In WHFB I've had my OnG Giant easily killed by a cannon shot more times than I could count (last army book, when he couldn't get a ward save). I have also had my general die on turn 1 by some basic spell my opponent hurled at him and I rolled a bunch of 1s for his saves.
In 40k, my opponent once had his entire army do nothing. Granted, it was Tau against my Necrons. At the end of turn 4 there was not a single Tau model left on the field and I had only lost 3 or 4 Warriors and 3 Scarab Swarms.
|
KoW Ogres/Basileans/Elves
WHFB Orcs & Goblins
WH40k Necrons
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 12:23:06
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Dipping With Wood Stain
|
The Aspiring Sorcerer for one of my Thousand Sons squads would consistently fail to do anything. He'd either miss all his shooting attacks, or hit but fail to wound, or blow his own brains out with perils of the warp. :| Or he'd explode into a greater daemon... which would then also proceed to do nothing. We started calling him Kenny.  "Stop killing yourself Kenny, you bastard!"
Then I was looking up Egyptian names for my Thousand Sons, checked the K section on a whim... and found Khentimentiu, which means "mystical god of the dead's destiny". It conveniently shortens to Khenti.
Also, my Chaos Lord, despite his ballistic skill of 5, always rolls a 1 to hit whenever I use the single melta shot from his combimelta. ALWAYS. He's not allowed a combimelta any more. :|
Then there's my poor Chaos Dreadnought. First game, he got multimelta'd into oblivion by Obliterators first turn, before he could do anything. Another game, he went shooty crazy four turns out of five. Didn't do anything to me 'cause I'd taken precautions against it, he was mostly just pissing into the wind with his flamer, but it meant he was way back on the board. Then, sixth turn, he rolled melee crazy! Charged madly up the field towards the Tau Commander... then rolled a one for his run and ended up less than an inch out of assault range. :| Gorramit.
Oh, and the poor daemon prince, who got stuck in close combat with a squad of plague marines. Was down to one wound, only one or two plague marines left! Got four hits, needed 3s to wound 'cause of the plague marines' T5...
... rolled four 2s.
Then I proceeded to forget that the wall behind me was cement, not plasterboard, and faceplanted into it. GG, self.
And to add more injury to insult and injury, said daemon prince then got powerfisted into oblivion.
/sigh
Flipside, there was the time an entire GK Terminator squad and their attached Librarian failed their leadership test from Land Raider tankshock, and were then chased off the board entirely by a SnP Thousand Sons squad.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 12:35:50
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Junior Officer with Laspistol
|
That's just painful with the Daemon prince.
I've had a Baneblade do almost nothing in any of it's games. One game it took the better part of 1000 points of Tau off the board in one turn (Only 2 stealthsuits and one firewarrior were left, the firewarrior mopped up in assault by allied Marines and the stealths taken by a Techmarine in cc.) Every other game it's done nothing, part from being a massive fire magnet.
|
Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 13:04:26
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
I had a Lord of Change get curbstomped turn 1 of a Planetstrike game by an 80 point Penal Legion Squad. The next turn my Keeper of Secrets died, partially due to THE SAME SQUAD. The rest of that game was sooo downhill...
|
Worship me. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 13:17:08
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Screamin' Stormboy
|
Every railgun in my Tau army. I dont know if I'm cursed by the dice gods or something, but whenver i roll for either my hammerhead or my broadsides. its always, ALWAYS snake eyes. I dont think I've ever scored a hit with them.
|
Ork WAAAGH Zapzog: roughly 4000 points and ever growing. Tau Cadre of Zuran'Ki: 3000 points. Grey Knights Interdiction Force Galeon : 2500 points. Tyranid Hive Fleet Crateria: 2500 Points. The Host of Hadrekon: 1500 points. Catachan 44th Swamp hunters. 800 points.
2000 points Skaven Army. Arcsqueeks Horde 1000 points Vampire Counts Army. Duke Valmai's Court. 1000 Points Dwarven Army. Bhor Grimhammers Throng. Planning to get some Ogres later this year.
Curse you Snake-eyes!
My P&M blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/454092.page#4372031 |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 13:31:20
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
|
Ironclad Dreadnought in a Drop Pod. Incredibly underwhelming and a huge point sink. If 6th edition changes the deep strike rules so that a unit can assault, this unit may become worth while.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 14:19:09
Subject: The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Been Around the Block
Michigan
|
Eldar vs Space Wolves, I'm the SW.
Rune Priest pops out of cover to use living lightning, gets perils.
Next turn, one shot from a ranger out of a squad of five hits and wounds, I roll a one on my 2+.
Proceeded to roll ones for the majority of that game.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/09 21:21:51
Subject: Re:The "That useless unit" or the "It did nothing"
|
 |
Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
|
Aprion wrote:Every railgun in my Tau army. I dont know if I'm cursed by the dice gods or something, but whenver i roll for either my hammerhead or my broadsides. its always, ALWAYS snake eyes. I dont think I've ever scored a hit with them.
Hmm it seems that every Tau player has terrible luck with Railguns.
I hit most of the time but then proceed to roll a 1 for penetration.
|
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
|
 |
 |
|