Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Jackal wrote:
Also, the stormraven is now £50, yet the ork bomba is the same size and has some nice options, yet its nearly half the price.
Logic?

More people play SM than Orks.

True, same thing applied to the goldswords for empire
If you need it, it will cost you.

Jackal wrote:Daemon prince: £20 - £25.
25% increase, nice -_-


Also, the stormraven is now £50, yet the ork bomba is the same size and has some nice options, yet its nearly half the price.
Logic?

That the stormraven was a flop and now they are trying to increase the profit on them by a huge jump in price?

Or simply because it is the finest flying vehicle in the Imperium and premium plastic kit which demands a premium price

PhantomViper wrote:But the two are not related. It isn't PP's lack of price hikes that is causing these logistical issues (but GW's price hikes really should be impacting the search for PP products so maybe they are related that way)...

If GW prices are the cause of GW customer's lack of demand then PP's lack of price rises must be the cause of PP's high demand, and therefore limited stock of products...

I assume that's the logic. Therefore GW are helping you get supplies of their stock by pricing some of their customers out of the market. Lucky you.

sparkywtf wrote: premium plastic kit which demands a premium price

GW kits are far from premium kits, at best they are average. Compare what GW produces to a scale model kit and you will see exactly how good GW's kits are. This is especially true for old kits like the Leman Russ which actually came out in 2nd edition.

Palindrome wrote:

sparkywtf wrote: premium plastic kit which demands a premium price

GW kits are far from premium kits, at best they are average. Compare what GW produces to a scale model kit and you will see exactly how good GW's kits are. This is especially true for old kits like the Leman Russ which actually came out in 2nd edition.

I just thought everyone knew calling GW kits premium was sarcasm.

I have one of those old Leman Russes.... they are awful.

They don't do themselves any favours do they.......I just buy from eBay when I need something......everything comes up for sale sooner or later. I can't afford to buy from my local gw the prices are ridiculous

Jackal wrote:Also, the stormraven is now £50, yet the ork bomba is the same size and has some nice options, yet its nearly half the price.
Logic?

The Stormraven is a lot bigger than the Bommer actually, but that still doesn't justify it's new price.

This latest increase has some of the most rediculous raises I've seen from GW so far. All those Marine tanks have gone across the treshold of what I am prepaired to pay as well.

They even raised the price of this item:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440292a&prodId=prod1160118a

I bought that one in metal for 17,50 (Euro) at my local game store a couple of weeks ago. It now costs 33,- (Euro) in FC and probably is one of the kits with the least amount of stuff you get for that price. Completely insane.

Just putting it out there, but prices here in NZ seem to be the same, although we were much more expensive to begin with. As has been said before, I just buy of ebay and the like.

Palindrome wrote:

sparkywtf wrote: premium plastic kit which demands a premium price

GW kits are far from premium kits, at best they are average. Compare what GW produces to a scale model kit and you will see exactly how good GW's kits are. This is especially true for old kits like the Leman Russ which actually came out in 2nd edition.

Are we now bashing GW's plastic kits?

Most of their plastic kits are of great quality, and I find them very much superior to most scale model kits. It is the pricing that sucks monkey balls. The quality of the plastics is excellent and one of the last things we should complain about when it comes to GW.

TBD wrote:
Are we now bashing GW's plastic kits?

Their vehicle kits are certainly not premium quality.

Palindrome wrote:

TBD wrote:
Are we now bashing GW's plastic kits?

Their vehicle kits are certainly not premium quality.

This is such an empty and meaningless statement unless actual arguments are used. So please elaborate.

GW kits, compared to scale model kits, most of the time are more detailed, much more versatile, include many more options, don't have this cheapish fragile feel that usually bothers me with scale models, and often don't even cost that much more money (granted, these recent raises have indeed worsened this part of the story).

I am curious to know what you do consider a premium quality plastic kit.

I don't know where GW is buying it's plastic from but the price is going down...
http://www.theplasticsexchange.com/

Now plastic WASTE price is UP in price in Euro.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=Filerice_indicator_and_trade_volume_for_plastic_waste_in_EU27,February_2011.png&filetimestamp=20111019170438

I'm looking at the Australian prices, and it looks as though some of them have actually decreased. Imperial Guard infantry squads, for example, are now $48 instead of $50. Not much, but with GW this is pretty amazing.

I am fed up with these prices. I refuse to buy anymore GW products from now on to protest these ridiculous prices.

Consul Scipio wrote:I don't know where GW is buying it's plastic from but the price is going down...
http://www.theplasticsexchange.com/

Now plastic WASTE price is UP in price in Euro.
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/statistics_explained/index.php?title=Filerice_indicator_and_trade_volume_for_plastic_waste_in_EU27,February_2011.png&filetimestamp=20111019170438

Even if they weren't going down the cost of materials in a box of plastic miniatures is pennies.

Anyone care to weigh a tactical marine sprue and work it out?

At least now the Marine haters get to laugh because it's mainly the Marine vehicles that got hit with the pricing hammer the hardest

TBD wrote:At least now the Marine haters get to laugh because it's mainly the Marine vehicles that got hit with the pricing hammer the hardest

I am actually glad, except for the chimera increase, saying I need 6 more. And who knows what I will do for my hydras now.

Glad is the wrong word. But laughing yes.

geordie09 wrote:For our US friends who don't have to pay astronomical prices for "GAS" like we do, petrol has increased by 50% in the last four years here... even the world raping oil companies and our pirate tax government aren't as bad as GW!

As previously stated SM Battleforce doubled in 4 years!

It costs me over $60 to fill up. That's about 40p.

sparkywtf wrote:

TBD wrote:At least now the Marine haters get to laugh because it's mainly the Marine vehicles that got hit with the pricing hammer the hardest

I am actually glad, except for the chimera increase, saying I need 6 more. And who knows what I will do for my hydras now.

Glad is the wrong word. But laughing yes.

Chimera still has the same price over here

But on the other hand I just noticed they even gave the already overpriced Goldswords and similar regiments a llittle raise 0,50...

sparkywtf wrote:yes shame on GW for doing what pretty much every company has done in the last 4 years, on a rather consistent basis (not just GW)

No. You are being silly.


When I started in 2009 the price of a Space marine Tactical squad was $50. the price now sits at $62. That's a 24% increase in price.

When I started in 2009 the price of a Space-Marine Battle box was 150. It had a Tactical Marine squad, a Combat squad, an Assault squad, a Scout Marine squad and a Rhino. - this worked out to a value of $232, meaning I got both the Scout Marine Squad and the Combat Squad for free (at $82). Now, I pay 180 - a 20% increase. My total value for goods has gone up minutely - to $254 in current cost of goods. Even though the price of goods has increased across the board, I'm not only getting $74 for free - 12% less than I was getting beforehand.

When I bought my first iPod touch, it cost me $250 from Apple. This was a 16 GB model. The 32GB model sits at roughly $300. Is this an increase? No. Because you get twice as large a capacity in the $300 model. The price, if anything has stayed the same. Apple is notorious for having expensive products yet their price increase is justifiable - it is mitigated by the increase in capacity.

Or, Here's another example. For four years I've bought the same kind of dice. For 40 dice, I pay 17 dollars (They're custom made, so the price isn't so bad. it certainly is better than buying from G-Dub.) In 2009, the price for 40 was 15 dollars - an increase of only 13%.

Surtur wrote:

geordie09 wrote:For our US friends who don't have to pay astronomical prices for "GAS" like we do, petrol has increased by 50% in the last four years here... even the world raping oil companies and our pirate tax government aren't as bad as GW!

As previously stated SM Battleforce doubled in 4 years!

It costs me over $60 to fill up. That's about 40p.

You could also walk and almost buy 3/4th of a Stormraven instead

TBD wrote:

Surtur wrote:

geordie09 wrote:For our US friends who don't have to pay astronomical prices for "GAS" like we do, petrol has increased by 50% in the last four years here... even the world raping oil companies and our pirate tax government aren't as bad as GW!

As previously stated SM Battleforce doubled in 4 years!

It costs me over $60 to fill up. That's about 40p.

You could also walk and almost buy 3/4th of a Stormraven instead

It costs upwards of £1.40 a litre here, and over £50 to fill my tank. I have a 1 litre engine, which may not be comprehendable for an American. (yes, they do make cars in miniature). I would look at the exchange rates and blow your statement to pieces, but I can't be bothered!

TBD wrote:

Palindrome wrote:

TBD wrote:
Are we now bashing GW's plastic kits?

Their vehicle kits are certainly not premium quality.

This is such an empty and meaningless statement unless actual arguments are used. So please elaborate.

GW kits, compared to scale model kits, most of the time are more detailed, much more versatile, include many more options, don't have this cheapish fragile feel that usually bothers me with scale models, and often don't even cost that much more money (granted, these recent raises have indeed worsened this part of the story).

I am curious to know what you do consider a premium quality plastic kit.

I have limited experience with scale kits but lets take the Tamiya 1/48 Pz IV kit for example as I have it built. It is far more detailed than a GW Predator (which I also have built), the kit contains about 10 times the number of bits when compared to a GW kit (and it has a cast metal lower hull), it has that 'cheapish' feel because it is true scale (so no cartoonish guns and spikey bits) yet costs half what comparable GW kits do. Yeah, GW really are top of the tree.

Quality will always be subjective but in this case the only thing that GW kits have going for them is that they don't take long to put together.

Great White wrote: Why would you do this to us GW?

Because there are people like the ones in this thread, that are perfectly fine with been bent over.
More FW I guess, till they play catch up with prices.

sparkywtf wrote:How about the what seems like monthly increases in raw materials. Would that be relevant? Plastic and resin prices are not set in stone FOREVER. They have been increasing, .

Has cost of plastic doubled within 4 years? Nope! It always makes me wonder whether GW employees are posting on daka

TBD wrote:This latest increase has some of the most rediculous raises I've seen from GW so far. All those Marine tanks have gone across the treshold of what I am prepaired to pay as well.

I have to agree, if ever I wanted a Marine army that desire is now well and truly dead. $60 for a predator simply is not worth it. Ditto for a nearly $40 rhino. And I knew it was happening but I still couldn't believe my eyes when I saw an $82 storm raven at the local store...$82, for that.

No.

Scipio Africanus wrote:When I bought my first iPod touch, it cost me $250 from Apple. This was a 16 GB model. The 32GB model sits at roughly $300. Is this an increase? No. Because you get twice as large a capacity in the $300 model. The price, if anything has stayed the same. Apple is notorious for having expensive products yet their price increase is justifiable - it is mitigated by the increase in capacity.

Electronics is not a meaningful comparison. The continual increase in the specification of the components means that they can build the same product with cheaper components. A 32GB model now will cost them less to make than a 16GB model a couple of years ago.

All electronics (PC's, laptops, LCD/LED screens, etc) have dropped fairly consistently in price over the last couple of decades.

There is no similar factor in plastic model kits.

Surtur wrote:

geordie09 wrote:For our US friends who don't have to pay astronomical prices for "GAS" like we do, petrol has increased by 50% in the last four years here... even the world raping oil companies and our pirate tax government aren't as bad as GW!

As previously stated SM Battleforce doubled in 4 years!

It costs me over $60 to fill up. That's about 40p.

£75 here

I'm annoyed at the price increase, but I'm even more annoyed at the underhand way the company has gone about it. There is absolutely zero mention of it on their site. Whilst this may make economic sense, it certainly doesn't endear customers.

My buying habits were already limited to the odd individual model. Now it may stretch to one new model a year, and repainting old ones.

So did they decide to just leave Australia out this time? Because the things I was worried about (Carnifex and Tyranid Warriors) haven't budged.