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MWHistorian wrote: IDPA is a great way to push yourself and improve your skills. It'll kick your butt in ways you never imagined.
I agree. Here are the parts I have problems with: *Aiming *Squeezing the trigger. *Remembering the course of fire. *Squeezing the trigger in rapid fire. *Movement. *Squeezing the trigger in slow fire. *Standing. *Reloads. *Remembering to wear hearing protection: aka "WHAT??? Ears on? WHY??? WHAT??? People are shooting???"
Here are the parts I excel at: *Drinking coffee before the match. *Advanced tactical chair sitting.
USPSA can be great as well. It tends to require more movement, and more rounds downrange. It used to be the realm of raceguns but they now have production categories like standard IDPA categories which is excellent. During the Obama Bullet Freakout II more rounds is a difficulty.
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No pics, but I have an FN FNP-9, and it's been a dream to shoot.
As soon as I have the spare funds, I'll be adding an 870 and a Mosin to the collection. I'm supposed to be getting a '69 1100 from my stepdad, but it's in need of repairs at the moment.
If I can find a reasonably prices AK-47 and a 74 I'd love to have those...and an AR eventually. But, any rifles are on a wish-list. I'm happy with shooting trap and pistol targets for the moment.
Comps? Competition?
M&P FS 9mm. It has a KKM Barrel, and Burwell tweek to 3.5lb. DA and DA/SA are the two biggest categories shooting.
About once every two months I use an M&Pc, thats stock.
If I were just competing I'd think about an XDM with the 5.25 barrel. It already had adjustable sights and fiber optic front. Obviously there are 8 million glocks being shot, with I'd say M&P and XDM as the secondary categories. I don't see many DA/SAs in my part of the country. You will occasionally see an STI 2011 (double column 1911 style), and of course there is its own category of 1911s which are typically very good shooters.
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Comps? Competition?
M&P FS 9mm. It has a KKM Barrel, and Burwell tweek to 3.5lb. DA and DA/SA are the two biggest categories shooting.
About once every two months I use an M&Pc, thats stock.
If I were just competing I'd think about an XDM with the 5.25 barrel. It already had adjustable sights and fiber optic front. Obviously there are 8 million glocks being shot, with I'd say M&P and XDM as the secondary categories. I don't see many DA/SAs in my part of the country. You will occasionally see an STI 2011 (double column 1911 style), and of course there is its own category of 1911s which are typically very good shooters.
You know what, you posted that you were shooting an M&P FS9 and I completely brain farted and forgot. My b! Does your barrel have a compensator on it? If so, how much does it actually reduce recoil?
My buddy has quite a few of the XDM line and loves em. I'm not a huge fan of the grips, but when i've fired his they've certainly been nice and accurate.
No compensator. I shoot SSP (stock service pistol) and compensators are not permitted. No permanent changes to grips, no grip extender/magwell, compensators, generally no weights you can put on (there has been a recent change in that area).
I oike the XDM grips, but I was raised on dirtbikes and motorcycles in general, so that may way that as a factor...
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Frazzled wrote: No compensator. I shoot SSP (stock service pistol) and compensators are not permitted. No permanent changes to grips, no grip extender/magwell, compensators, generally no weights you can put on (there has been a recent change in that area).
Very cool. We've got a lot of of organized events for the Glock Sport Shooting Foundation in my area, so I've been investigating getting a "competition" pistol for a bit now. I realize for that I'd need Glock (duh) but it's always nice to hear about waht others are using!
I oike the XDM grips, but I was raised on dirtbikes and motorcycles in general, so that may way that as a factor...
My buddy raced dirtbikes competitively, so its interesting that you mention that!
Myself, I prefer the sig style simple round pebble grip.. It's part of the reason I've been hesitant to get a Glock at all and a big reason I'm disappointed with where H&K has moved the grips on their P series of pistols; the USPs have the nice no frills pebbled grip.
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Good bit of glocks. I've not seen compensators on any of them. I see a good number of the glock 34s (the competition length ones if thats the one). As noted, the local stuff draws the weekend hack variety more then super racegun crowd.
Interestingly I often see SSP or ESP (DAO guys with minimal tweeks) outshooting the higher end 1911 crowd as well. Unless you're going true racegun, once you get a certain minimal level, its the shooter and not the gun (which means I truly suck...)
I'd proffer get the competition glock, which IIRC isn't expensive, and shoot that straight for a while. Then modify as desired but keep the OEM parts so you can re-install if you need to. Plus when you're ready to tweek you can look to see what categories that would meet up with in IDPA and USPSA (and how popular those are) and that way you can compete in all three.
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I'd proffer get the competition glock, which IIRC isn't expensive, and shoot that straight for a while. Then modify as desired but keep the OEM parts so you can re-install if you need to. Plus when you're ready to tweek you can look to see what categories that would meet up with in IDPA and USPSA (and how popular those are) and that way you can compete in all three.
Yeah, thats exactly what I was thinking. I think I can get a G4 (which comes with the three mags) for like, $650 at the local shop. Plus the wife is all aboard with it, so that's probably a good idea.
Yes, happy wife equals good life. or as mine would say "if the mamma ain't happy, no one's happy."
$650 is good. Thats about what I spent total, and didn't intent to get the KKM barrel when going in.
FYI but I like glocks too. I just prefer M&P because they are stainless steel. This is an issue in Texas. With the heat and humidty, rust is a factor.
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Huh, so all I would need is another mag and a basic holster/mag pouch. Cool, I'll have to look around and see if there's a club in my area. Probably just use my 9c since that's what I would normally carry.
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Huh, so all I would need is another mag and a basic holster/mag pouch. Cool, I'll have to look around and see if there's a club in my area. Probably just use my 9c since that's what I would normally carry.
Technically you don't really need a mag pouch. Its highly advisable though, even if you're just trying out your CC type. I normally have a full size spare mag in a buck knife type case, but I use a double mag holder for safety reasons.
As noted I use a 9c on occasion. its not as good on longer shots (duh) but its still plenty good enough if you're just trying to practice and have a little fun doing it. Do you use the mags with the pinkie rest or flat?
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Huh, so all I would need is another mag and a basic holster/mag pouch. Cool, I'll have to look around and see if there's a club in my area. Probably just use my 9c since that's what I would normally carry.
Technically you don't really need a mag pouch. Its highly advisable though, even if you're just trying out your CC type. I normally have a full size spare mag in a buck knife type case, but I use a double mag holder for safety reasons.
As noted I use a 9c on occasion. its not as good on longer shots (duh) but its still plenty good enough if you're just trying to practice and have a little fun doing it. Do you use the mags with the pinkie rest or flat?
canadian three gunner and steel challenge with the occational IDPA match, maybe iPSC if I become a masochist (dont know about you yanks, but up here ipsc is very elitist and not so much fun)
I compete in irons divistion in 3 gun, cause real men use iron sights up to 300m and do just as well as the ladies with their scopes
production class in all the pistol stuff, fine tuned my S&W m&p myself, runs like a clock, I love that pistol.
kinda nice having all this cheap norinco stuff coming in as well,
AR's for 700 bucks, .223 for 25c a round, just got a 1911+1000rnds .45 for 499$ shipped!
that being said I am very tempted to get my paper work in order to take the gear stateside, as your competitions are a bit more intricate and actually have some decent prizes.
There are different ones for different calibers. Its ready to party with all the in crowd calibers.
I like their holsters too. Equally cheap but still good quality.
I have a Comp tac holster for the full size as the front sight I put on is too big for most non competition holsters but it was the only one that would pair well with the adjustable sight I put on the thing.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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I've been thinking about IDPA, but the only problem is the closest place to me that runs it is about a 45 minute drive away...considereing how much I drive already for work, it's a little too much for me at the moment
mega_bassist wrote: I've been thinking about IDPA, but the only problem is the closest place to me that runs it is about a 45 minute drive away...considereing how much I drive already for work, it's a little too much for me at the moment
I drive a lot myself, living between cities and all, but its worth it to me for the hobby aspects. But I can understand not wanting to drive more. Boy can I understand.
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MrMoustaffa wrote: Huh, so all I would need is another mag and a basic holster/mag pouch. Cool, I'll have to look around and see if there's a club in my area. Probably just use my 9c since that's what I would normally carry.
Technically you don't really need a mag pouch. Its highly advisable though, even if you're just trying out your CC type. I normally have a full size spare mag in a buck knife type case, but I use a double mag holder for safety reasons.
As noted I use a 9c on occasion. its not as good on longer shots (duh) but its still plenty good enough if you're just trying to practice and have a little fun doing it. Do you use the mags with the pinkie rest or flat?
I've got one of each mag. Haven't really figured out which works better for me, since I just got it recently.
thanks for the link, I'll definitely look into that.
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Well. for 9mm clip pouches. You know the Gerber multitool set they issue us. I use that pouch which can hold two clips side by side. Quite a few people toss that pouch and stick the Gerber in a note pad pouch with the "Shatter Glass" tool by it.
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For holsters and such, I really like G-Code. They got good stuff. If you're looking at competing, you'll need a good holster and mag carriers. An artist is only as good as his tools....or something like that.
http://www.tacticalholsters.com/
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Those are my 2 biggest shooting sports. though it is dove season now so i am out doing that when i get the time.
I shoot trap / skeet but not in a comp setting. just me the GF and a few other people.
Jihadin wrote: Well. for 9mm clip pouches. You know the Gerber multitool set they issue us. I use that pouch which can hold two clips side by side. Quite a few people toss that pouch and stick the Gerber in a note pad pouch with the "Shatter Glass" tool by it.
There are several pouches like that. Again I reference Academy, as its a home away from home "You're going to look at shoes. Ok, I'm just going to go over by camping for awhile." "Remember Dad, you said don't let you buy a shotgun today." "I'm not going by the guns." "NO SHOTGUNS." "grr..."
easysauce wrote: canadian three gunner and steel challenge with the occational IDPA match, maybe iPSC if I become a masochist (dont know about you yanks, but up here ipsc is very elitist and not so much fun)
That is a criticism. My local gun club shoots mostly IDPA but occasionally USPSA (US version of IPSC). The little bit I posted was actually a USPSA style. I don't know about larger matches. Its different (less scenario type, more run and gun) but similar.
I compete in irons divistion in 3 gun, cause real men use iron sights up to 300m and do just as well as the ladies with their scopes
Wait until real men get old and their vision goes... If things go ok and the wife doesn't give devastating amounts of money to the body shop (again) I'm looking at tactical (thats tacticool to you and me) shotgun competition as well. Not keen on carbine because I don't want to look like an operator wannabe (no offense meant) and because that might involve running, which would soon involve an ambulance, and then funeral home, and then a viking burial at Inks Lake, and then the wife goes to Cancun with the poolboy, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A POOL!
production class in all the pistol stuff, fine tuned my S&W m&p myself, runs like a clock, I love that pistol.
Very good young man.
kinda nice having all this cheap norinco stuff coming in as well,
AR's for 700 bucks, .223 for 25c a round, just got a 1911+1000rnds .45 for 499$ shipped!
bang bang!!!
that being said I am very tempted to get my paper work in order to take the gear stateside, as your competitions are a bit more intricate and actually have some decent prizes.
Paper work? WE have whats called an open border here...
Those are my 2 biggest shooting sports. though it is dove season now so i am out doing that when i get the time. I shoot trap / skeet but not in a comp setting. just me the GF and a few other people.
Not shot but seen. The thought of shooting a double barreled coach gun makes me slightly giddy. Are you pistol or do you shoot rifle as well?
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No, mag pouches and holsters are fit to each pistol. There isnt a generic holster that will fit every pistol. I had to buy all new carry gear when I switched from 9MM to 45. Hopefully, after I buy another upper for an AR project, I'll be looking at getting an STI Spartan. I may get one in 9MM to compliment my RIA 1911.
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Jihadin wrote: Well. for 9mm clip pouches. You know the Gerber multitool set they issue us. I use that pouch which can hold two clips side by side. Quite a few people toss that pouch and stick the Gerber in a note pad pouch with the "Shatter Glass" tool by it.
AARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!
It's a magazine, not a clip.
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Jihadin wrote: Well. for 9mm clip pouches. You know the Gerber multitool set they issue us. I use that pouch which can hold two clips side by side. Quite a few people toss that pouch and stick the Gerber in a note pad pouch with the "Shatter Glass" tool by it.
AARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!
It's a magazine, not a clip.
This is a banana:
I use a clip everytime I go shooting.
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However, if someone wants to give me a field grade Enfield for free, I'll gladly use clips on that puppy.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Bah nostalgia, not been shooting on a range since I was a cadet, firearms are a hell of a lot more controlled over here but no point getting into that on a good thread.
A damned shame too brought back trophies our team hadn't won for decades, most of the 'ranges' round here are all clay pigeon though which while fun is not really what I'm into. The only rifle ranges even vaguely close to me are pitifully short distance too, when I was a cadet I was a good 100-300 metres from the target, the nearest one has a 'maximum range' of 45 metres.
Ignatius-Grulgor wrote: Bah nostalgia, not been shooting on a range since I was a cadet, firearms are a hell of a lot more controlled over here but no point getting into that on a good thread.
A damned shame too brought back trophies our team hadn't won for decades, most of the 'ranges' round here are all clay pigeon though which while fun is not really what I'm into. The only rifle ranges even vaguely close to me are pitifully short distance too, when I was a cadet I was a good 100-300 metres from the target, the nearest one has a 'maximum range' of 45 metres.
45 metres? Out here in Utah that's considered point blank range.
Here's my rifle range until Sept 7th when I move to Japan. 0-1000 yards. they even have a metal bigfoot target out there.
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