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 Azazelx wrote:
I think starfield with colourful nebula in the background would be the best bet to start with. If you do two designs, you could go for a planet or two in the background.

Moonscape or planetary surface could just be regular mat designs, for 40k, etc really.

thx. And isnt there plenty of space mats designs on market already?
M

   
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We proudly present that we become partners with WFB Polish Team Championship: Event happening in Warsaw on 23-24th August. I am really amazed to see our gaming mats on such a big event!
This is the trailer from the organizators. Really nice one!


   
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We are live with 4x4' G-Mats pre-orders! Limited quantity only! Order now and save 10%. Price set at 39 EUR. Delivery end of July/start of August.
Do not hesitate as we are looking for limited amount of pre-orders, when we reach that we kick on the production and set full price at 44 EUR. Available on our e-shop. Section 4x4. Just add to cart as usually!
http://www.gamemat.eu/4x4-g-mats.html

   
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Twin Cities

I would be all over this if shipping wasn't so bad (US). I understand why it costs as much as it does but unfortunately it prices me out of a purchase. Best of luck though as I can see a growing market for these.

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 Wuyley wrote:
I would be all over this if shipping wasn't so bad (US). I understand why it costs as much as it does but unfortunately it prices me out of a purchase. Best of luck though as I can see a growing market for these.


I can imagine! thats a big slowdown for us. I would love to for example arrrange some bundle package e.a 15-20 mats and send it to US for some gaming comunity/club. I mean when people will get the orders together within couple of days/week.
Then I can surely work out some shipment conditions and even some deal price for all the mats.
Think about that pls if you are in center of some gaming group.

   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre






These look great. I've been blown away by my Deadzone mat and these look very similar, so I'm very tempted.

On the other hand, a complaint/comment: you don't need to / shouldn't be charging VAT to customers outside the EU. http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm. If you took away that 21% from the price it is a fair bit more palatable to overseas customers.
   
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I agree, I've never understood why I need to pay VAT when I don't live in the EU!
   
Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut






Trasvi wrote:
These look great. I've been blown away by my Deadzone mat and these look very similar, so I'm very tempted.

On the other hand, a complaint/comment: you don't need to / shouldn't be charging VAT to customers outside the EU. http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm. If you took away that 21% from the price it is a fair bit more palatable to overseas customers.


We need to have a look into that. But generally as we are small company (sole proprietorship) We had to buy all services and production including VAT. So we cannot trade without VAT as we paid everything VAT including when producing our mats.

   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre






Generally, at least the way that the similar GST works here in Australia, is that you can still reclaim VAT on the purchases you make for sales even if you sell them to non VAT countries. You need to zero-rate the VAT (ie, charge the customers 0% VAT but still add the $0.00 to the invoice).
I'm not sure how difficult this is for you, but its a bit jarring to see that I'm explicitly being charged VAT when theoretically I'm not supposed to be.
   
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Trasvi wrote:
Generally, at least the way that the similar GST works here in Australia, is that you can still reclaim VAT on the purchases you make for sales even if you sell them to non VAT countries. You need to zero-rate the VAT (ie, charge the customers 0% VAT but still add the $0.00 to the invoice).
I'm not sure how difficult this is for you, but its a bit jarring to see that I'm explicitly being charged VAT when theoretically I'm not supposed to be.


I agree, I see your point. But right now I cannot sell without VAT even to ex EU countries. I have basically now cost of rproduction X(including VAT) and Iam adding some margin. So I sell at price X+margin.
I cannot deduct any VAT from X because no one will give it back to me. I already paid all the VAT when stocking all the mats in my ownership.
When I would sell to Australia at price minus VAT it basically means I sell 20% cheaper,

In couple of months when we grow, we become EU registered VAT payer. Then I can purchase all production WITHOUT VAT. Then I am able to sell outside EU without VAT.

   
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Courageous Space Marine Captain





Melbourne .au

matous1983 wrote:
 Azazelx wrote:
I think starfield with colourful nebula in the background would be the best bet to start with. If you do two designs, you could go for a planet or two in the background.

Moonscape or planetary surface could just be regular mat designs, for 40k, etc really.

thx. And isnt there plenty of space mats designs on market already?
M


Sure, why not? I guess it's a good thing there's not plenty of other 6x4 mats out there?


What makes your 6x4 different to anyone else's? Does anyone else make 3x3 like that?

   
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just reminder, Pre-orders for 4x4 will be up just for next week. Then we start production.
You can save 10% with pre ordering on http://www.gamemat.eu/4x4-g-mats.html

   
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New photos of prototypes:

http://www.gamewire.belloflostsouls.net/gamemat-eu-new-4x4-wargaming-mats-photos-pre-orders/

   
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last 3 days, we close the books for -10% pre-orders on Friday!!

   
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West Midlands (UK)

matous1983 wrote:

thx. And isnt there plenty of space mats designs on market already?
M


I don't know of a single one on mouse-mat material readily available in Europe.

There's the Frontline Gaming one, which will run you north of 100 EUR with shipping across the pond. The rest is thin PVC/Vinyl stuff.

Design should be easy, as you can use actual Hubble Telescope images, etc.. for free I believe (double check though).

On a mat-like material, for 40 EUR or whatever these are costing, I'd kill for one.

   
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Melbourne .au

Thank you, Zwei, for making my point well. I was too pissed off at their attitude in their reply to do anything but respond in kind.

   
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 Azazelx wrote:
Thank you, Zwei, for making my point well. I was too pissed off at their attitude in their reply to do anything but respond in kind.

I was at wrong impression that there is this frontline and couple of others so I would just add "another" space mat
If its like you say then its worth it.
But what size?
I think xwing is 3x3
But dont people play usually 4x4 or 6x4?
PLease advice


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would you actuall pay for 3x3 or 4x4 space mat , priced at 39-44 EUR?

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@Zweischeind
I am going this route for my Malifaux mat, I guess you could use this company too?

http://www.bagsoflove.co.uk/neoprene.aspx

Costs about £45 for a 3x3 mat delivered.

Hopefully there are similar Aussie based companies for Azazelx. The postage on these things tends to kill it for ordering from other countries.

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Our 6x4' G-mat: Mayhem Square in battle report. Just in case you wanna see how this mat looks, this is better then pictures


   
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Have you tested these mats against foodstains yet?

The boy, I say, the boy is as sharp as a sack of wet mice... 
   
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 Elmir wrote:
Have you tested these mats against foodstains yet?

hehe, not yet, but wet cloth would clean it for sure

   
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SoCal

I bought a mat and just left it on a table at my FLGS to test durability. No food stains yet, but people generally know not to eat on top of them.

I do see people regularly placing their drinks on it, no spills, but so far it hasn't left any water spots or rings.

   
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 Vertrucio wrote:
I bought a mat and just left it on a table at my FLGS to test durability. No food stains yet, but people generally know not to eat on top of them.

I do see people regularly placing their drinks on it, no spills, but so far it hasn't left any water spots or rings.


Right, we placed 8 of our mats to local gaming club as sponsorship and they are played on daily since end of April and there are no signs of being worn out or something..



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WOW! Maestro of battle reports playing on our Meadows of War G-mat. Enjoy amazing batle!

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Warrington, UK

Can you do a dark eldar themed one?

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Shingen wrote:
Can you do a dark eldar themed one?


How would you picture that theme pls? We want to add more for sure


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I am personally looking for adding some limited edition mats just limited amount and ideally for pre-orders only.
This could be good idea to do army themed mats more

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matous1983 wrote:
Shingen wrote:
Can you do a dark eldar themed one?


How would you picture that theme pls? We want to add more for sure


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I am personally looking for adding some limited edition mats just limited amount and ideally for pre-orders only.
This could be good idea to do army themed mats more



What armies? If you mean 40k armies then I'm not interested there are more games systems other then GW and if you are only catering for 40k (as your mayhem map seems to suggest) then your losing potential customers. So far I'm only slightly intrested in your wasteland mat. Some ideas from the top of my head.

A clean sci fi theme mat
A space mat
A modern/futuristic city with roads
A fantasy town/city map
An ocean map
A desert map
Various forests/meadow maps
Variations of some mats for 10/15 mm games

These are just a few suggestions you could do. I want to give you my business but your designs leave a lot to be desired. You need to get some pre orders up, let people know what your working on as I have visited your page a few times and there seems to be no movement.
   
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Incorporating Wet-Blending





UK

A simple desert mat would be great.

Not overtextured with dunes, rocks, dried riverbeds, just a simple bright uniform sand texture across the whole thing.

There's a tendency to overdesign or over-clutter mat artwork, when instead, simple and uniform texture across the whole thing is all that's needed. Especially with sand or snow, you can just have the same texture across the whole thing and its job done for a realistic mat since individual sand grains or snow flakes are too small to have any 3d presence (this applies to grass too, to some extent, although you are less likely to come across a uniform field of short grass than you are a flat and smooth area of snow or sand).

Extra detail comes from the terrain that is added on top, if you draw pictures of large rocks and things on the mat artwork, it can start to look odd, as it's 3d detail being represented in a 2d form.

Honestly, the same applies to space mats, they all too often have a giant nebula plastered over them (usually the same one too, that hubble image that *everyone* uses), to match reality a simple starfield is for the best, with perhaps a galactic plane such as the view of the milky way from Earth if you do want some broader, gaseous detail. A lot of people mistake a lot of space images as being true-colour as well... they are not, they are formed by detecting wavelengths other than visible light.

Non-photoshopped views from orbit are much better reference than space telescope images, they paint a much more subtle picture than giant red and purple nebulae clouds you see on every space mat on the market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdwaRz6bko

Best to avoid a lot of earth-based Milky Way photography too, as a lot of it gets photoshopped to hell... here's an example of a rather beautiful photo being mangled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOAmP7A_x6c

The post above is really good advice I think, just offering the most basic and generic mats which would have

40k or warhammer specific stuff = I can't use that mat for any of the other games I play, so it has no value to me.

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All good ideas!

   
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Way Too Near London

If you guys don't fancy doing diagonal roads for an Infinity mat... then a simple hex-based design that's basically all sidewalk / town square, with white hexes and a mid grey or pale blue outline, similar sort of scale to these bases, could go down very well:

http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/hex-bases-25mm-round.html

Diagonal roads with the above hexes everywhere else would be better still though.

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