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 Kirasu wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Then I'm sorry, but you're nuts. GW releases models. That's pretty much all they do, stopping occasionally to release some paints with useless names.

GW will invent new units for the Grey Knights and make GK versions of existing units for the Grey Knights. They will release 3-6 new kits (including characters) to go along side their book. That's what they always do.

I've named models I see coming out. I don't see more units coming out, GK have everything covered by current kits.

That doesn't make much sense.. GW will simply invent new units, such as COdex: Grey Knights compared to Codex: demonhunters.. Come on, think back to.. EVERY single other codex release!

Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Then I'm sorry, but you're nuts. GW releases models. That's pretty much all they do, stopping occasionally to release some paints with useless names.

GW will invent new units for the Grey Knights and make GK versions of existing units for the Grey Knights. They will release 3-6 new kits (including characters) to go along side their book. That's what they always do.

This.

The only, only way for GK to get a "codex" without new miniatures is if it's a Sisters of Battle style WD/Online army list.

 Deadshot wrote:
Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

Your arguement is about as bogus as possible.

At many points throughout the last 25 years, several armies haven't "needed" anything. GW has always found something to put out new models. You even refrence one of the units!

Just because YOU don't think GK are "lacking anything" doesn't mean GW agrees.

They can/have/will jam something into a Codex because they are a minatures company, not a rules company.

Clearly false rumours. Everyone knows we're getting Lord Kaldor Dreadknight as a LOW. 10's across the board, 666 points. Any enemy models in this characters LOS are removed from play.

GW could take the lazy route and just put the GK stuff from Forgeworld into the book and make plastic kits for them.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
GW could take the lazy route and just put the GK stuff from Forgeworld into the book and make plastic kits for them.

There's not really much on Forgeworld for Grey Knights at all. Even then, GW isn't huge on making Forgeworld kits into plastic kits. The Hydra is the only one in recent years I can think of.

True, GW seems to avoid stealing from FW, but it would be the quick and lazy thing to do.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

Your arguement is about as bogus as possible.

At many points throughout the last 25 years, several armies haven't "needed" anything. GW has always found something to put out new models. You even refrence one of the units!

Just because YOU don't think GK are "lacking anything" doesn't mean GW agrees.

They can/have/will jam something into a Codex because they are a minatures company, not a rules company.

Then please enlighten me as to what the Grey Knights lack?

And yes, I have referenced something that was not a necessity, Centurions. Needed? No. Do they perform a unique function? Yes.

I'd love to see a set of plastic henchmen, that would be great.

 BrookM wrote:
I'd love to see a set of plastic henchmen, that would be great.

These would be nice but it would be difficult to implement given the variety of Henchmen types.

Unless.. GW axes a lot of them.

 Deadshot wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

Your arguement is about as bogus as possible.

At many points throughout the last 25 years, several armies haven't "needed" anything. GW has always found something to put out new models. You even refrence one of the units!

Just because YOU don't think GK are "lacking anything" doesn't mean GW agrees.

They can/have/will jam something into a Codex because they are a minatures company, not a rules company.

Then please enlighten me as to what the Grey Knights lack?

And yes, I have referenced something that was not a necessity, Centurions. Needed? No. Do they perform a unique function? Yes.

I think the general point was that even if a codex isn't lacking something, then GW will create something new.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Clang wrote:
A new codex with no new models? I doubt it.

Exactly. This "rumour" is nonsense.

Third.

This "release" has just came up out of the blue.

I'm taking this rumour with a sandbag full of salt.

If there is a way for GW to make money then they will do it first sight.

Expect Modrak as a new plastic HQ with another build for a new generic grand master.

Expect anything Inquisition removed from codex: GK and shoved into Codex Inquisition as an update.

Whirlwinds and Predators seem good.

But expect there to be some new form of new unit or kit.


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sockwithaticket wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

Your arguement is about as bogus as possible.

At many points throughout the last 25 years, several armies haven't "needed" anything. GW has always found something to put out new models. You even refrence one of the units!

Just because YOU don't think GK are "lacking anything" doesn't mean GW agrees.

They can/have/will jam something into a Codex because they are a minatures company, not a rules company.

Then please enlighten me as to what the Grey Knights lack?

And yes, I have referenced something that was not a necessity, Centurions. Needed? No. Do they perform a unique function? Yes.

I think the general point was that even if a codex isn't lacking something, then GW will create something new.

They lack anti-air.

Expect either the hunter/stalker kit or a new kit for another variant of Dreadnought for anti-air/ more Ornate GK Dreadnought.

I could see there being a release without models, and a few different ways for this.

1: If they do a digital update, like they did with the SoB and BA (People seem to forget about the BA digital updated codex) then there wouldn't be a model release.

2: If all they're doing is giving GK access to already available kits, then I don't see why they would need to release brand new kits.

But I also find it very unlikely, that they won't come out with SOMETHING new for them. just because thats how GW works. perhaps a unique centurion box with an upgrade sprue, or reboxing the Dreadknight with additional options.

Has the rumormonger that accurately predict the imperial knights and seventh edition said anything on this subject?

Add nothing new..... double price

Brilliant!

I think the storm claw route could be possible.

1 new unique character vs some unique daemon, shove it together with some strike squads and call it a day.

Its not something that needs a new book (though id be happy with a new book)

Do you guys think that this just might be taking Inquisitorial forces out of the GK codex so that you have to buy the Inquisition book? No longer 2 coteaz maybe.

I wouldn't mind.

I would be so sad pandas at that point (though i have both books so not as big a deal)

But personally i wouldnt mind a Inquisition book separate then the individual daemon,witch,alien hunters again if it give them all individually which i wouldn't mind paying for.

sockwithaticket wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
Every other release EVER added more units the Codex was lacking. GK are not lacking anything. The only thing added that was added and not needed was Centurions, but I guess Personnel sized siege weapons is a good idea. GK have everything they need in the current kits. Psykers, Flyers, Monstrous Creatures...they were built for 6th Ed, which 7th is simply an update for. The only things needed to change are the Psychic powers and add Warlord Traits.

Your arguement is about as bogus as possible.

At many points throughout the last 25 years, several armies haven't "needed" anything. GW has always found something to put out new models. You even refrence one of the units!

Just because YOU don't think GK are "lacking anything" doesn't mean GW agrees.

They can/have/will jam something into a Codex because they are a minatures company, not a rules company.

Then please enlighten me as to what the Grey Knights lack?

And yes, I have referenced something that was not a necessity, Centurions. Needed? No. Do they perform a unique function? Yes.

I think the general point was that even if a codex isn't lacking something, then GW will create something new.

You are correct.

It's also not my responsiblity to prove they will create something to fill a void that either does or doesn't exist. GW themselves have the track record of doing it.

It's why your argument is bogus. Once again, just because YOU think GK don't need anything, doesn't mean GW agrees. As history provides many examples, I would bet you're on the wrong side of that arguement.

@happygolucky

GK don't use anti air as they don't fight things with ariel support. The closest Daemons come to ariel support is flying Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes. Stormravens or a Talon is sufficient to keep the skies clear, and Dreadknights are specifically designed to kill them in melee.

 Deadshot wrote:
@happygolucky

GK don't use anti air as they don't fight things with ariel support. The closest Daemons come to ariel support is flying Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes. Stormravens or a Talon is sufficient to keep the skies clear, and Dreadknights are specifically designed to kill them in melee.

If GW sees a place to grab more money from its customers then they will. They will even retconn fluff to make sure that the specific unit works in fluff..

As for dreadnoughts, then why is it that most people I see take twin-psycannon Dreads and not anything for CC?

As I have said and will stand by it as speculation, expect another anti-air option for GK and maybe a new GK dread kit imo..

No new models? I call bull. They're not Sisters. The revamp made them relatively popular. If this was a digital-only release I could maybe get onboard, but it's not.

Even if it was only Special Characters who got models I'd still be more inclined to believe that but given their recent attitude of "shoehorn as much codex-specific crap as we can!" I highly, highly, doubt Grey Knights will be the exception.

Frankly, I don't think GW would miss the chance to release plastic Inquisitors. With the Allies rules and Unbound nonsense they'd be swimming in it and they know it.

 happygolucky wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
@happygolucky

GK don't use anti air as they don't fight things with ariel support. The closest Daemons come to ariel support is flying Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes. Stormravens or a Talon is sufficient to keep the skies clear, and Dreadknights are specifically designed to kill them in melee.

If GW sees a place to grab more money from its customers then they will. They will even retconn fluff to make sure that the specific unit works in fluff..

As for dreadnoughts, then why is it that most people I see take twin-psycannon Dreads and not anything for CC?

As I have said and will stand by it as speculation, expect another anti-air option for GK and maybe a new GK dread kit imo..

I'd be fine with a Dread kit that actually includes two autocannons.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
@happygolucky

GK don't use anti air as they don't fight things with ariel support. The closest Daemons come to ariel support is flying Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes. Stormravens or a Talon is sufficient to keep the skies clear, and Dreadknights are specifically designed to kill them in melee.

If GW sees a place to grab more money from its customers then they will. They will even retconn fluff to make sure that the specific unit works in fluff..

As for dreadnoughts, then why is it that most people I see take twin-psycannon Dreads and not anything for CC?

As I have said and will stand by it as speculation, expect another anti-air option for GK and maybe a new GK dread kit imo..

I'd be fine with a Dread kit that actually includes two autocannons.

Boom. GW just got a sale.

And this is why I can see personally see them making new models for GK... That and also GW have said that they are a model company first, etc, etc..

 BrookM wrote:
I'd love to see a set of plastic henchmen, that would be great.

sadly,

I see everything in GK that is in codex inquisition being removed, as well as the assasins being removed and put into their own codex.


I see GW adding some of the SM line to the GK codex,

and HOPFULLY coming out with better GK dreadnoughts, and a DK with a storm sheild, or more DK varients.

other then that, maybe some as of yet unheard of GK thing to come out perhaps?

Theres a whole bunch of bits they could toss in to the existing boxes.

Storm Shields for Termis, GK themed Centurions, other SM vehicles

As much as I would like a GK codex soon, would be nice to get some more options as well

So we'll see

 easysauce wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'd love to see a set of plastic henchmen, that would be great.

sadly,

I see everything in GK that is in codex inquisition being removed, as well as the assasins being removed and put into their own codex.


I see GW adding some of the SM line to the GK codex,

and HOPFULLY coming out with better GK dreadnoughts, and a DK with a storm sheild, or more DK varients.

other then that, maybe some as of yet unheard of GK thing to come out perhaps?

Maybe a new super anti-daemon thunderfirelike cannon?

Maybe a kit with Draigo on a chariot pulled by some daemons he's enslaved.

OR riding a unicorn.

 Blacksails wrote:
Maybe a kit with Draigo on a chariot pulled by some daemons he's enslaved.

Sniffing warp dust with Mortorian impaled on "holy" spikes as a trophy rack..