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Well, I played several games using the old Harlequin codex written by Gav Thorpe.
Fun to play. The core has been Harlies on foot or in Venoms, Mimes infiltrating, Harlies on Jetbikes.

An the Aspect warriors front, I would much rather they simply re-release the pewter versions. Even at 20+ years old, the 2nd edition sculpts are awesome and hold up. GW claims their dropping of metal was due to rising prices on pewter, but then how do any of the other companies survive when that's all they deal in?

Well, it's a more or less useless effort to release Harlies in plastic as long as they are unplayable.

Am I the only eldar player that couldn't care less about this? I want exodites and new aspect warrior sculpts. In all the eldar groups I'm a member of, those 2 things are wish listed daily. I've never really seen anyone begging for harlequins.

I would prefer Exodites first too myself. It would cover the other major split of the Eldar race. We currently have lists for Craftworlds, Dark Eldar, Corsairs (from FW), so may as well do the Exodites, then Harlequins after.

Why Exodites first? They have more opportunity to have big creatures (and have been shown to have this in the BL novels) such as Carnosaurs or Pteranadons. They even had prototype Epic scale models with mounted guns on these dinosaurs. So the Exodites have a way of dealing with enemy vehicles and superheavies.

Harlequins by contrast have always been described as wandering ninja space clowns basically. While they are described as deadly in close combat, they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery. While zipping around on jetbikes and using Haywire grenades might work to some extent, it would require a major expansion of the fluff if the Harlequins were to get more stuff to enable them to deal with all the super heavy war machines other factions are using these days. I see the Harlequins right now as more like a Legion of the Damned supplement expansion than a full fledged Codex in their own right.

they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery.

Are you sure about that? GW will surely be able to accommodate by making a giant HarleKnight.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
An the Aspect warriors front, I would much rather they simply re-release the pewter versions. Even at 20+ years old, the 2nd edition sculpts are awesome and hold up. GW claims their dropping of metal was due to rising prices on pewter, but then how do any of the other companies survive when that's all they deal in?

Other companies? There is only GW in this hobby.

 Absolutionis wrote:

they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery.

Are you sure about that? GW will surely be able to accommodate by making a giant HarleKnight.

Hence why I said Harlequins would need a major fluff expansion to justify any sudden new heavy war machines they get. The heaviest stuff they have been described with is in the unofficial Harlequin Codex in Citadel Journal by Gav Thorpe, and that was basically a Venom and Wraithlord equivalent. Even that has its problems fluffwise since Harlequins are supposed to not use any spirit stones since they are protected against Slaanesh by the Laughing God, so how would they have anything to pilot the Wraithlord with?

Iracundus wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:

they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery.

Are you sure about that? GW will surely be able to accommodate by making a giant HarleKnight.

Hence why I said Harlequins would need a major fluff expansion to justify any sudden new heavy war machines they get. The heaviest stuff they have been described with is in the unofficial Harlequin Codex in Citadel Journal by Gav Thorpe, and that was basically a Venom and Wraithlord equivalent. Even that has its problems fluffwise since Harlequins are supposed to not use any spirit stones since they are protected against Slaanesh by the Laughing God, so how would they have anything to pilot the Wraithlord with?

Correct.

The release is probably aimed at giving Harlies plastic models and not at giving them new or expanded rules.

It's been a very long time since I've played Eldar, but I would be super excited to see a new codex come out for it.

As far as dataslates go, I wish sometime after any particular WD went out of print I wish that the exclusive rules published in it got ported to ePub or iBook and put on Black Library. Does anyone know what WD the looted wagon, Gerantius, etc. were in? Without figuring out what WD issue the unit in question was in and then tracking down a copy of it, there is no way to use some eligible units.

The iBooks store has all of the old white dwarf issues in digital form, so you would just have to look through there

 Rygnan wrote:
The iBooks store has all of the old white dwarf issues in digital form, so you would just have to look through there

But what about all the people, like me, who don't have apple devices?

OomieCrusha wrote:

 Rygnan wrote:
The iBooks store has all of the old white dwarf issues in digital form, so you would just have to look through there

But what about all the people, like me, who don't have apple devices?

Common mistake for some unknown reason.

You need an apple device to view the Interactive Editions sold on iTunes/iBooks. The White Dwarf mags as well as the vast majority of Dataslates aren't sold in this format. They are sold as eBooks.

You don't need an apple device to read an eBook. You need either a tablet to read it on the go, or a computer with which to open and print it. There are numerous free eBook reader programs out there. I use Calibre. It's kind of like iTunes, but for books.

In any case, the White Dwarf you are looking for is this one...

http://www.blacklibrary.com/whitedwarf/white-dwarf-issue-21.html

Buy it for 4 USD and you'll be able to use it on literally any computer or tablet that has been sold for the past decade.

Perhaps somebody could make a GW digital thread and discuss that stuff over there?

We don't even know how or if the Harlequin rules are going to be released so lets keep the discussion focused on the these wonderful death clowns for now....or let the thread go silent until there is more news.

 Toofast wrote:
Am I the only eldar player that couldn't care less about this? I want exodites and new aspect warrior sculpts. In all the eldar groups I'm a member of, those 2 things are wish listed daily. I've never really seen anyone begging for harlequins.

Yep, shed the Finecast aspects at least.

I wonder if the new harlies are going to be a direct resin-> plastic conversion, ala the DE Wracks.

 Accolade wrote:
I wonder if the new harlies are going to be a direct resin-> plastic conversion, ala the DE Wracks.

I hope they convert them to plastic as well as they did the wracks. I made the mistake of buying Finecast wracks, and then bought plastic ones. A definite several steps up in quality with the plastic.

 Accolade wrote:
I wonder if the new harlies are going to be a direct resin-> plastic conversion, ala the DE Wracks.

I would be ok with this. I really like the current Harlies sculpts.

It's the character clampacks that I am most interested in. I am really hoping for a Solitaire.

Love those tricky harlequins but they are a nightmare to paint well. Lovely models but it's the tricky check pattern puts me off!

Iracundus wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:

they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery.

Are you sure about that? GW will surely be able to accommodate by making a giant HarleKnight.

Hence why I said Harlequins would need a major fluff expansion to justify any sudden new heavy war machines they get. The heaviest stuff they have been described with is in the unofficial Harlequin Codex in Citadel Journal by Gav Thorpe, and that was basically a Venom and Wraithlord equivalent. Even that has its problems fluffwise since Harlequins are supposed to not use any spirit stones since they are protected against Slaanesh by the Laughing God, so how would they have anything to pilot the Wraithlord with?

Definitely. They have never been anything more than enigmatic allies of Craftworld Eldar, coming and going as they please. The only way I could ever see them as a force operating on their own would be in Kill-Team sized games. They operate even more like light raiders than the Dark Eldar, which is saying something. The only way they ever had heavy vehicles is back in the crazy days of Rogue Trader, when they could loot other armies vehicles, and that never made sense, even then.

 Accolade wrote:
I wonder if the new harlies are going to be a direct resin-> plastic conversion, ala the DE Wracks.

If so, maybe they'll include an optional crew for the Venom like in the Wracks kit.

If I were to start a Xenos army, it is a toss-up between the Tau(would model them after stuff from Gundam) or the Harlequins (would model them after the Joker and Harley Quinn). Hard to say, I love the idea of a Joker army though. Lots of purple and green and black, red, and white incoming!

How cool the Harlequins were was one of the things that drew me into 40K in the long ago.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:

Iracundus wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:

they have not been described as being accompanied with much in the way of heavier machinery.

Are you sure about that? GW will surely be able to accommodate by making a giant HarleKnight.

Hence why I said Harlequins would need a major fluff expansion to justify any sudden new heavy war machines they get. The heaviest stuff they have been described with is in the unofficial Harlequin Codex in Citadel Journal by Gav Thorpe, and that was basically a Venom and Wraithlord equivalent. Even that has its problems fluffwise since Harlequins are supposed to not use any spirit stones since they are protected against Slaanesh by the Laughing God, so how would they have anything to pilot the Wraithlord with?

Definitely. They have never been anything more than enigmatic allies of Craftworld Eldar, coming and going as they please. The only way I could ever see them as a force operating on their own would be in Kill-Team sized games. They operate even more like light raiders than the Dark Eldar, which is saying something. The only way they ever had heavy vehicles is back in the crazy days of Rogue Trader, when they could loot other armies vehicles, and that never made sense, even then.

The story where they had captured Imperial robots painted up and dancing towards battle with the Imperial lines.

They also stole the Star Leopards Land Raider.

I would love to see a full release of plastic, multi-pose Harlies with their own Codex/Supplement.

I mostly just want new plastic jet bikes... it's at least half the reason I haven't started an Eldar army yet.

I still have a Rhino painted in Harlequin Colours

I am VERY excited about this. I have 3,500 points of Alaitoc Eldar...and a Kill Team of the metal Rogue Trader Harlequins...

The first pictures of the Aspect Warriors was what got me into 40K....WAAAAAYYYY back in 1991...man...those were the days...

There is news

Darnok has confirmed plastic harlequins are the next 40k release after Necrons

Darnok on Warseer

Originally Posted by mashkeyboardgetusername

Sort of on-topic (on the basis that a lot of you will laugh at it) faeit/natfka is saying that there's going to be an AdMech/Skitarii army for 40k coming soon, before Harlequins supposedly. Have any of the reliable rumourmongers on here heard anything about this? I'm taking it with lots of salt at the moment...

I haven't heard about it actually, but either way: it is not happening before Harlequins.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?403593-A-Laugh-For-Christmas&p=7344982&viewfull=1#post7344982



Also Duffybear1988 (a solid source regarding to other Warseer forum members) has posted the following info

My friend has some of the new harlequin sprues and some fantasy stuff that's yet to be released as well! I'm going to see if I can get pics or more details, but he hasn't mentioned jetbikes at all so either they aren't coming out or he doesn't have those bits.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?403593-A-Laugh-For-Christmas&p=7344940&viewfull=1#post7344940

More news -

6 figures included on the sprue (possibly one is a venom crewman).
No seer or jester on the sprue my source has.
Masks are separate to heads and there are far more masks than needed.
Lots of swords/blades for various poses.
Nearly all are in dynamic leaping/dancing poses on Eldar ruins.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?403593-A-Laugh-For-Christmas&p=7345095&viewfull=1#post7345095

Sounds good cheers for this Warhams

exciting! Hopefully lots of conversion possibilities. It'll be interesting to see the Eldar ruins bases too