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Sigvatr wrote: The point of the item drop system is to play the game...but...then...it's wrong to play it for the item drops...huh? I don't get your logic.
The point of the game is to play the game. Especially in case of Dota, because it happens to be genuinely free to play.
Dunno, I just find it hard to process the idea that because you cannot trade your drop, the whole system somehow becomes pointless.
Pajamathur is my JAM. The only problem is that most people don't know how he works, so you constantly have to explain it. With people that know him though, and run a melee warrior... oh man. He's labeled a melee specialist, but really he should be labeled a melee support (at least the way I play him).
I was playing with a few friends but ended up teamed up with a PUG Illidan. No problemo. Illidan is one of Abathur's bestest buddies!
Except the player had no idea how Abathur worked. He constantly berated me for AFKing in the base, even though I was riding his head practically the entire game. Shield healing him, slowing opponent's with spikes, dropping mines, etc. etc. After about 10 minutes, we had this:
Me: Honest question, do you know how Abathur works?
Him: Pretty sure it involves more than just staying in the base doing nothing.
Me: See that rabbit head floating above you? That's me. I'm the one shielding you and stuff.
Well, it is true that hero works in damn strange way!
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So, as an extreme noob to the game who only completed the tutorial and some training rounds to get a feel for Nova, what hero would be recomended for someone who likes to do some insane burst damage? I've always had near 0 patience for LOL / Dota 2, but I had lots of fun playing with Dota 2's Lina Inverse and her Laguna Blade.
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TheDraconicLord wrote: So, as an extreme noob to the game who only completed the tutorial and some training rounds to get a feel for Nova, what hero would be recomended for someone who likes to do some insane burst damage? I've always had near 0 patience for LOL / Dota 2, but I had lots of fun playing with Dota 2's Lina Inverse and her Laguna Blade.
Jaina deals the highest burst damage in the game by a very long shot, but for a beginner, she isn't well-suited. You need to properly chain up combos and have a good map awareness plus be able to lead her main damage spell, all on a very fragile character without escape mechanism.
Zerathul and Nova are good beginner heroes because they deal a high amount of burst and have the Cloak ability (NOT invisibility!) making them harder to see and thus other beginners have a harder time against them.
Nova is cheaper than Zerathul.
General hint: save ALL of your coins for 10k heroes until you hit level 40. 2000 gold for leveling up is a LOT and after level 40, max level, you no longer get those rewards.
Alternatively, spend real money to unlock stuff. The two of us are at 250ish $ right now
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Sigvatr wrote: Jaina deals the highest burst damage in the game by a very long shot, but for a beginner, she isn't well-suited. You need to properly chain up combos and have a good map awareness plus be able to lead her main damage spell, all on a very fragile character without escape mechanism.
Zerathul and Nova are good beginner heroes because they deal a high amount of burst and have the Cloak ability (NOT invisibility!) making them harder to see and thus other beginners have a harder time against them.
Nova is cheaper than Zerathul.
General hint: save ALL of your coins for 10k heroes until you hit level 40. 2000 gold for leveling up is a LOT and after level 40, max level, you no longer get those rewards.
Alternatively, spend real money to unlock stuff. The two of us are at 250ish $ right now
Also buy heroes only after a patch drops, that's when potential price drops happen, Anub'arak for example dropped from 10,000 to 4,000 in one single price drop.
And that there's a sale for a new character and two skins a week, check back every week to see if something is alot cheaper to buy.
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Ok, why? I was actually considering him at one point because I like the character and he wasn't that pricey. Granted, once Kel'Thuzad hits, I think I'll buy it, no questions asked.
Played a bit with Nova in real games, she really is fun. Love he Precision Strike ultimate, when the enemy is bunched up doing something, it's awesome
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He is the second-worst hero in the game. He doesn't deal a good amount of damage and neither can he take a lot of damage. If you only miss a single skill of his, you cannot do anything else in the entire teamfight.
I also like the character and was severely disappointed. In Warcraft lore, he is supposed to be a really sturdy hero who can take a beating and still go out rocking. In HotS, however, he is...well...nothing really. Cannot take damage, cannot deal damage.
Most heroes in HotS are viable to some degree. Anub'Arak, Stitches and Sonya, however, are nigh-unusuable at this point.
A very important thing to remember in HotS is that abilities can also hurt buildings. Precision Strike also does
One thing that REALLY disappoints me about Nova is that her ultimate isn't "Nuclear launch detected". Huge oversight.
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Stitches is very usable, he just has to specialize now rather then basically being everything at once, along with still having one of the best long range disruptions.
Sonya is the only real "Horrible", Anub'arak is based around his skills, don't think of him as a tank and more as a stun based disruption tool.
Sonya doesn't know WHAT she wants to do.
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Stitche's problem is his hook. It's all he has and he is entirely built around it. If you take Hook out of the equation, he's entirely useless. While that makes for a specialist concept, it means that not hitting your hook makes you a non-factor in teamfights. Gorge looks good on the one hand, but on the other hand, it's a melee range disable and lackluster for an ult.
Anub'Arak is all about his disables, but you have to offer more than just disables to be viable. The next patch will fix his bugged bug (hah!) AI, let's see where this takes us.
Raynor is another mixed bag. He isn't a Ranged Assassin, he is more of a Specialist.
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Anub'arak is my favourite, it's a shame he is so bad.
I played with friends a while back and had him get rekt by Muradin every time. I still cry myself to sleep over those CClocks. Not sure if Muradin is still a ridiculous stunmachine. I sure hope not.
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Really liking the game. Still. Blizzard's reaction time is too slow, though. A critical bug with one hero was fixed days later. The current meta still is Illidan+support. Needs fixing. Stiches STILL NOT GETTING BUFFS. BLIZZARD WHATCHA DOIN'?!
Duce wrote: Illidan really is a case of take brightwing to properly counter and make sure your team can take down his support/s.
At least there is a good mix of heroes appearing in ranked (Have only started to be honest) and in quick match.
There does need to be a few more warriors and specialists, maybe a few supports.
I'm dying to see the SC tank and support. Hoping for a Firebat for the tank or specialist, and a medevac for the specialist if firebat is tank.
Specialist is already the Siege Tank. I'd love to see a Firebat tank though, heh, I was just thinking about what a SC warrior would be yesterday. Otherwise maybe a Dragoon?
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Duce wrote: Illidan really is a case of take brightwing to properly counter and make sure your team can take down his support/s.
Blizzard just started to handle balance really poorly over the course of the last few weeks / months. In the Alpha and early Beta, they used to quickly react to problems, but that now changed for the worse. If a single hero (i.e: Illidan) vastly dominates the competitive meta to the degree of being the decisive factor when it comes to win ratios, then said hero is inherently broken. Even competitive players moan about Blizzard's lethargy. Illidan just has too much for a single hero. Best sustain in the game, 2.5 escape mechanisms, best combat mobility, second highest damage output, fast waveclear, Battle Focus for free (!), highest lifesteal etc. The only downside he has is the lack of hard cc and a low amount of hitpoints...while the latter is countered by his ult. All other heroes with similar roles have the exact same problems he has...and more. If a single hero dominates the competitive meta by such an insane degree, he needs attention.
...and don't get me started on TLV.
On the lower end of things, we have heroes like Stitches and Sonya that are downright trash and are in dire need of a rework, yet remain untouched.
Sigvatr wrote: On the lower end of things, we have heroes like Stitches and Sonya that are downright trash and are in dire need of a rework, yet remain untouched.
I started playing HotS recently, and Sonya's the first hero I bought. Her biggest weakness that I've seen so far is her complete lack of harassment capability. She can just wade through minion waves, towers or jungle monsters, but she has no way of contesting a lane when the enemy team masses for a push.
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Sigvatr wrote: On the lower end of things, we have heroes like Stitches and Sonya that are downright trash and are in dire need of a rework, yet remain untouched.
I started playing HotS recently, and Sonya's the first hero I bought. Her biggest weakness that I've seen so far is her complete lack of harassment capability. She can just wade through minion waves, towers or jungle monsters, but she has no way of contesting a lane when the enemy team masses for a push.
Aye. Low hitpoint pool, no crowd control, main source of sustain hard countered by most heroes in the game (everyone with a root/stun) and mediocre damage. She is good at taking camps and that's about it. Second-worst hero in the game.
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