The state of war gaming, just left our local con. and have a question ?

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**Eilif**

Stinkyninja wrote:

On top of that I have 4 armies in 40k I can not afford to keep all four current any longer. That really bugs me...
I mean the day of running and maintaining multiple armies is gone for certain.

This was definitely a problem I ran into, though I only had 2 armies. 7th edition would have meant over $160 just in rulebooks, even before adding any units.

I've kept my 40k armies and they see use a couple times a year when we do apocalypse size games in the 40k universe using the Warpath 1.0 rules. I also occasionally add a unit or two to my armies from the backstock of kits I've got in storage that I've acquired over the years. Haven't bought a new 40k product in 3-4 years though.

Stinkyninja wrote:

The one thing I do want to say that I noticed from the local con last weekend.
While both warmahorde and 40k players were busy dry humping each others legs over who had the cheese master 4000 list
to rule lawyer them all. I looked over at the older war gamers, who were running historical war games some were home brew games. Some were just rule books where
they would provide and create 15mm scale armies etc...

Those guys were having fun and I think that may be where I may find myself going in the future...

Hey just want to say you guys are really stepping up with this topic and I am grateful for the input.

Have you considered the dark ages skirmish game SAGA?
http://www.grippingbeast.co.uk
It's one of the fastest growing historical games. It plays very fast and a standard sized (6 point) army can be put together for well under 100 bucks, sometimes as low as 50 or so if you use mostly plastic figures. I haven't bought in myself but I played a demo at adepticon and a couple of times with my friend and it's a remarkably balanced and fun game with the "battleboards" mechanic adding a unique twist. With the cost of an army being so low, players are encouraged to buy many different factions (there are 20 or so spanning the dark ages and early crusades) and learn each one's playstyle, which in turn makes it easier to share the game with others when you have more than one faction.

I already have a club of folks who enjoy playing many unique indie games and rulesets (with or without their own miniature line), so I'm a bit slower in embracing SAGA. However, for someone who wants something historical with a low buy-in, but also something they'll be able to find opponents for, SAGA would be an excellent choice.