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 Sigvatr wrote:
Hm. Graphics and animations looked pretty bad. Minus points for the "War never changes." Come on.

What's wrong with War Never Changes? That's the fallout tag line.
The graphics don't look that bad. About en par for beth.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
@ shasolenzabi

Nah I think they've just redesigned the T-51b/ T-45d. They've given the Vertibird a go over too, as well as changing the Vault suits back to how they looked in the originals. Put that down to their lead artist dying just after Skyrim came out (though he'd been working on the project before that presumably). =/

Here's a better run down than I can come up with:

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Blog:News/Fallout_4:_Welcome_Home_-_Trailer_analysis_and_summary#Summary

Still, when I went and painted my vault security team, there was nothing on Vault 111, I am pleased to see it now has a place.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Hm. Graphics and animations looked pretty bad. Minus points for the "War never changes." Come on.

What's wrong with War Never Changes? That's the fallout tag line.
The graphics don't look that bad. About en par for beth.

Yeah idk what's wrong with the "war never changes" line. That's my favorite part of the trailer, it's like their flagship line for the franchise.

Graphics, it's hard to say just yet. Depending on when release date is we might be seeing the finished game, test footage or cinematics. Too early to tell I think.

 shasolenzabi wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:
@ shasolenzabi

Nah I think they've just redesigned the T-51b/ T-45d. They've given the Vertibird a go over too, as well as changing the Vault suits back to how they looked in the originals. Put that down to their lead artist dying just after Skyrim came out (though he'd been working on the project before that presumably). =/

Here's a better run down than I can come up with:

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Blog:News/Fallout_4:_Welcome_Home_-_Trailer_analysis_and_summary#Summary

Still, when I went and painted my vault security team, there was nothing on Vault 111, I am pleased to see it now has a place.

Argh, now to spend you time changing every little detail to bring them in line with the ones that appear in the game exactly!

Oh god I hope Vault 62 doesn't appear.

Upon looking at the guy outside of Diamond City (the baseball stadium, diamond coming from the shape of the field I presume) closer he isn't in fact wearing combat armour. Nah, rather than the American Football armour of previous games (and Mad Max) he's wearing some baseball gear. ...That's so cool.

Is that a baseball helmet he's wearing or a Vietnam era American military pilot's helmet? ...Not that I want to turn him into a model at all. Nope.

Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

Yeah, it does look brighter.

The graphics kinda reminded me of RAGE.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

I'm sure there will be a brightness slider in the graphics options.

 Alex C wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

I'm sure there will be a brightness slider in the graphics options.

Or a million and one ENBs out there.


Oh and the Youtube comments are nothing compared to what's going on in the NMA thread. "Rarrgh, its not a top down turn based game! Rarrgh! This isn't the nineties anymore!!!".

They are also right on the water's edge, so ocean breeze power to clear dust away, (Always needed shades on Long Island).

I see that metal things are also getting rust from the salty air. Plus the ubiquitous green paint

If a close release date was given alongside all this, the graphics and animations would worry me. Seeing as though this hasn't happened, and given that E3 is coming up, I remain cautiously optimistic.

True, a trailer and things with bad graphics isn't exactly the best way of getting people hyped for the game, but at the same time, assuming that a game with no current release date and an hour and a half slot at E3 will be using them when it's actually released is a bit silly.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

I'm sure there will be a brightness slider in the graphics options.

Or a million and one ENBs out there.


Oh and the Youtube comments are nothing compared to what's going on in the NMA thread. "Rarrgh, its not a top down turn based game! Rarrgh! This isn't the nineties anymore!!!".

Heh, so nothing changed then. Did they really expect Beth to go isometric

 Avatar 720 wrote:
If a release date was given alongside all this, the graphics and animations would worry me. Seeing as though this hasn't happened, and given that E3 is coming up, I remain cautiously optimistic.

True, a trailer and things with bad graphics isn't exactly the best way of getting people hyped for the game, but at the same time, assuming that a game with no current release date and an hour and a half slot at E3 will be using them when it's actually released is a bit silly.

The release date's New Year's IIRC. Its attached to the pre-order.

I have no issue with the graphics. It looks like Skyrim, but a bit better, which is fine. If people take issue with them then hell, one don't play on a console, and two go install the gak ton of graphical improvement mods that'll be out (and the official high-res texture pack). Seriously Skyrim now has mods that have increase the resolution and polygons of things so much that people are now going through and making the bloody wicker baskets ridiculously high res (5200x5200 is a bit much...).

 Wyrmalla wrote:

Oh and the Youtube comments are nothing compared to what's going on in the NMA thread. "Rarrgh, its not a top down turn based game! Rarrgh! This isn't the nineties anymore!!!".

Ah NMA, hive of frothing grognards who think that a Fallout game "isn't proper Fallout" unless it's isometric, PC-exclusive and made by Black Isle.

I'm happy to leave them to stew in their own raging juice while I sit over here and enjoy life with FALLOUT 3 on XBOX 360.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 Avatar 720 wrote:
If a release date was given alongside all this, the graphics and animations would worry me. Seeing as though this hasn't happened, and given that E3 is coming up, I remain cautiously optimistic.

True, a trailer and things with bad graphics isn't exactly the best way of getting people hyped for the game, but at the same time, assuming that a game with no current release date and an hour and a half slot at E3 will be using them when it's actually released is a bit silly.

The release date's New Year's IIRC. Its attached to the pre-order.

Where? Nowhere I can find has a release date for pre-orders, and nowhere seems to list one; not even Wikipedia has expected release dates up.

 Avatar 720 wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 Avatar 720 wrote:
If a release date was given alongside all this, the graphics and animations would worry me. Seeing as though this hasn't happened, and given that E3 is coming up, I remain cautiously optimistic.

True, a trailer and things with bad graphics isn't exactly the best way of getting people hyped for the game, but at the same time, assuming that a game with no current release date and an hour and a half slot at E3 will be using them when it's actually released is a bit silly.

The release date's New Year's IIRC. Its attached to the pre-order.

Where? Nowhere I can find has a release date for pre-orders, and nowhere seems to list one; not even Wikipedia has expected release dates up.

I think someone said in the NMA thread. If they have a trailer out, showing it off at E3 and the boxart's done then its not far off. I mean they have to send it to distributors and have all the paperwork done, so six months is fair time for that. If they have any developing left to do it'll be bug fixing, if that.

I love the flashback part of the trailer.

Frankly low graphics would be fine with me if the game isn't nearly as buggy as New Vegas or Skyrim were.

Will be interesting to see how this one turns out and yes, let's hope this one isn't a buggy PC release just this once.

Also, voiced character? Here's hoping that it's just for the trailer or if they do go down that road, there's still the option to edit your character and gender and whatnot.

 BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this one turns out and yes, let's hope this one isn't a buggy PC release just this once.

Also, voiced character? Here's hoping that it's just for the trailer or if they do go down that road, there's still the option to edit your character and gender and whatnot.

If I can't play as a female character then this game's ruined for me!!!

...

...Or rather its ruined for all those guys who just love to make those bloody skimpy armour mods.

The trailer was done by another company other than Bethesda, so perhaps they chose to do that. However it would seem weird to have the guy voiced in the trailer only for the game to be completely different. As I said though, perhaps he's not the player character, or just the guy from the intro tutorial (the whole pre-war bit is a part in the game judging by the camera angle at points)?

...I really hope that they either don't have the player voice, or go the Mass Effect route of giving the female protagonist a voice too. Now that I can get on board with.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this one turns out and yes, let's hope this one isn't a buggy PC release just this once.

Also, voiced character? Here's hoping that it's just for the trailer or if they do go down that road, there's still the option to edit your character and gender and whatnot.

If I can't play as a female character then this game's ruined for me!!!

...

...Or rather its ruined for all those guys who just love to make those bloody skimpy armour mods.

The trailer was done by another company other than Bethesda, so perhaps they chose to do that. However it would seem weird to have the guy voiced in the trailer only for the game to be completely different. As I said though, perhaps he's not the player character, or just the guy from the intro tutorial (the whole pre-war bit is a part in the game judging by the camera angle at points)?

...I really hope that they either don't have the player voice, or go the Mass Effect route of giving the female protagonist a voice too. Now that I can get on board with.

Right, the trailer was directed by that one guy that also did Pacific Rim and whatnot.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Is it me, or does everything look brighter? Not sure I like that; I prefer the grittiness of the older games.

Yeah, it does look brighter.

The graphics kinda reminded me of RAGE.

I'm glad it's brighter. With all the gritty "ultra grimdark graphics!" we've been seeing in recent games, I'm thankful for things like Overwatch, that show no fear of using bright colors. I've never been too interested in Fallout before, but I think I may buy this one. Trailer looked cool, I agree the graphics aren't amazing, but, neither were Skyrim's when I bought it on release date and ran on rather high settings.

Edit: Hey man, not all of us play female characters to give them skimpy armor. In fact, between my fiancee and I, one of us almost always has their female characters wear skimpy armor, and it's not me. And that fact never ceases to amuse me!

Heh, and I'm already making models based on this game. XD

 BrookM wrote:

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this one turns out and yes, let's hope this one isn't a buggy PC release just this once.

Also, voiced character? Here's hoping that it's just for the trailer or if they do go down that road, there's still the option to edit your character and gender and whatnot.

If I can't play as a female character then this game's ruined for me!!!

...

...Or rather its ruined for all those guys who just love to make those bloody skimpy armour mods.

The trailer was done by another company other than Bethesda, so perhaps they chose to do that. However it would seem weird to have the guy voiced in the trailer only for the game to be completely different. As I said though, perhaps he's not the player character, or just the guy from the intro tutorial (the whole pre-war bit is a part in the game judging by the camera angle at points)?

...I really hope that they either don't have the player voice, or go the Mass Effect route of giving the female protagonist a voice too. Now that I can get on board with.

Right, the trailer was directed by that one guy that also did Pacific Rim and whatnot.

I am almost certain this isn't the trailer by Guillermo del Toro, because he isn't directing it. His production/CGI studio, Mirada Studios, is.

Hah, I'm still reading the drivel on NMA and finally someone actually said this looks like "Skyrim with guns!". ...They're literally repeating the same arguments that they made when Fallout 3 came out (I think I read someone calling Skyrim Fallout 3 with swords at one point too).

Those posters seem to be so entrenched in their backwards beliefs. They put down Fallout 3, then grumble a bit and accept New Vegas. So now they bitch about 4, but seem to forget that the same game (with all the graphics they hate and FPS style they can't get used to) will be then given to Obsidian to make a sequel to New Vegas with. So if anything, the announcement of 4 just means that another Obsidian game will be out eventually.

3 was good for its world, Skyrim showed that Bethesda could then develop that area a bit, but wasn't spectacular. New Vegas however had the writing. So I'll be enjoying the hell out of 4, and whatever gripes I have with how Bethesda writes things (go back to 3 and don't cringe at the dialogue at times) I know that there'll be a superior game coming out using the same assets a few years afterwards.

...Because like hell any of the guys at Obsidian will pass up a chance to go back and work on their baby again.

Edit: and another piece of speculation from NMA. The Institute's big on androids and downloading pre-war people's memories into them. Perhaps the player's an android and that explains why you could be from before the war?

...Though I doubt many people would be happy with that. However it does explain how you could customise your character. I'm still hoping that there'll be both male and female voice acting.

I sure hope it gets better than Skyrim. Skyrim, without mods, is not a good game. Far from it. It only became as good as it got because of its outstanding mod community.

I have only played FO-3 and Skyrim as well as Oblivion before on the X-box-360,

It will cost less to have FO-4 and a new hard drive than the X-box-one and FO-4


Some are so spoiled

Fallou-3 on a X-Box-360 plugged into a old 480p TV made it feel like playing on a fallout universe monitor

 Sigvatr wrote:
I sure hope it gets better than Skyrim. Skyrim, without mods, is not a good game. Far from it. It only became as good as it got because of its outstanding mod community.

Weird that my wife and I had it on Xbox 360 from day 1 and still enjoy the hell out of it then.

I must stop enjoying it now! The internet has spoken!

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
Edit: Hey man, not all of us play female characters to give them skimpy armor. In fact, between my fiancee and I, one of us almost always has their female characters wear skimpy armor, and it's not me. And that fact never ceases to amuse me!

I'll openly admit to using a few 'skimpy' or 'shapely' armour mods on one or two characters, but I don't make characters specifically for them, and I don't use any with ridiculous amounts of nudity or skin showing. Something that's a little more form-fitting does me fine. Power armour consisting of powered nipple-tassels, powered monomolecular underwear, and powered high-heels, is much too far into the realms of ridiculous for me--which is annoying, since trying to find a decent-looking, less-bulky power armour model that isn't powered lingerie is like trying to find hay in a needlestack.

I was kinda hoping for the option to play as a ghoul... Not looking like it. Oh well. Time to look for a mod to do that in Fallout 3 or NV!

Trailer looks amazing. I could care less about how good the graphics are, just so long as I don't have to buy a whole new PC or play on low settings. I honestly can't wait. I might even pre-order my 1st AAA title. Again the seemingly lacking option of a Ghoul player character is a little meh. I just can't wait for this now!

 Alex C wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
I sure hope it gets better than Skyrim. Skyrim, without mods, is not a good game. Far from it. It only became as good as it got because of its outstanding mod community.

Weird that my wife and I had it on Xbox 360 from day 1 and still enjoy the hell out of it then.

I must stop enjoying it now! The internet has spoken!

Where did it say that you cannot enjoy it?