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 raiden wrote:
The problem with ravenwing melee units is no staying power.

Anything with ap3 will wreck even the knights potentialally before they get to hit.

For such an expensive unit you die really easily.

AP3 is actually pretty rare for me as most lists focus on shooting gear, not melee gear.

 raiden wrote:
The problem with ravenwing melee units is no staying power.

Anything with ap3 will wreck even the knights potentialally before they get to hit.

For such an expensive unit you die really easily.

Very true, however T5 and potentially an apothecary is usually enough to run over most of the competition. (Sammael usually works as a tank for me hen facing str 10 stuff).

You have the plasmaguns to deal with the seriously tough dedicated cc units.

In a competitive list I honestly can't see someone swapping out a squad of black knights for some terminators.