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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 19:36:33
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Confident Halberdier
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Smart move on Mantics part given the looming shadow of Bloodbowl, I'll go in for some stuff as even if I don't play the game these minis are ace for Sci-Fi gaming and RPGing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 19:42:11
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I'm interested, especially if they go the Deadzone Infestation route of using that Dust- style PVC. That material worked really good for the special characters they did.
Also sumo reptiles.
Have Mantic mentioned if the new stuff will be cross- compatible with Extreme?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 20:39:32
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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DBX remains as it is as a separate way to play and will not be updated
Will the new teams be given DBX stats as well?
Good question and I would have thought so – at least as digital downloads.
The main pledge level is $100.
They have decided that the Sumo Lizards will use the mostly unarmoured concepts rather than the Samurai type.
If enough people ask for it we can certainly do a pack that will include everything you need to play (the new rulebook, team guide and custom dice set) – whether that’s on the Kickstarter or on our webstore we’re not sure. It’ll probably be around $70-75.
We’re really looking at funding production of the new boxed game, which will be part of our $100 pledge level and include 2 $30 teams
We are not altering DBX as part of this development work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 23:38:26
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DaveC wrote:They have decided that the Sumo Lizards will use the mostly unarmoured concepts rather than the Samurai type.
Are there Samurai armor concepts of the lizards out there too, or was that just a word-choice thing? All I've seen are the naked vs. Sumo loin-clothed reptiles, none with Samurai armor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/08 23:45:41
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 02:45:47
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks for that, Dave C.
I don't think I'm thrilled with either the samurai or sumo outfits on the saurians.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 11:19:12
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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No problem, I prefer the unarmoured look, but they have said at least one miniature will keep the Samurai armour probably the Captain (new position for DB2 taking the place of MVPs for the most part).
I hope they do an upgrade only pledge level. I'm not sure I want to put another $100 in for yet another box set and more teams - I have 24 already and only the Yindij interest me (and probably more for DZ conversion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 11:44:44
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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I'll be looking at it for DZ conversion fodder.
The yindij reader from dread ball xtreme makes a good yindij sergeant for dead zone when you slap a gun on him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/09 12:01:22
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Yeah, lots of good stuff in there for deadzone conversions, the zees and crates work well too (if only they'd done a hard plastic crate sprue for deadzone..).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 16:06:25
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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https://manticblog.com/2016/07/12/dreadball-2nd-edition-development-diary-art-draft-teams-3/
In response to community feedback, the proposed Core Rulebook and Advanced Rulebook will be combined into one book, not two – so handily we only need one piece of art for this!
Yndij Team
We developed the concept further taking into account some of the community feedback. There’s more skin on show – the tail is now unarmoured and the face is on show. So too did we integrate some of the tribal elements from A’teo’s design and armour. The centre piece of the armour is lifted straight from the MVP’s armour and the feathered helmet and winglets on the shoulder pads are also a nod. There are some tribal rings and a feather on the tail, whilst the bare feet help emphasis movement and agility.
I spoke originally about the Yndij as being quite dynamic and the helmet design is actually influenced by cycling helmets, with that long crest.
We’ll be going with Option 2.
Sports Robots
The robot concept work has continued as well – Roberto has worked up some sample Strikers, Jacks and Guards, as well as a Team Captain and 2 different DreadBall glove designs.
Sumo Lizards
Once again taking on your feedback, there’s been more work on the Sumo Lizards. They’re now less armoured and removed from the samurai armour idea. They look more like sports players than they do warriors. The V wing is a neat little idea and will likely get incorporated to help differentiate Guards from Jacks.
RefBot MKII
With new rules comes a new RefBot – and she’s had an upgrade. She’s a bit beefier now, the old model could snap at the ankles and so we’ve strengthened that area a bit. We also figured that there are a lot of big, bulky players that would probably just rip her apart when angry, so the DGB have given her some extra armour as well.
Finally, the rules. The rules development is going very strongly indeed and the Rules Committee will be putting together a post that shows off what we’re intending to do.
One of the most positive changes is to Jacks, which in the current playtest document can make a full move when throwing and slamming, just like a Striker and Guard. Their usefulness has grown massively as a result.
We’re also spending a lot of time on how we differentiate the teams from each other. D8 isn’t the answer but we’re experimenting with a few options that no doubt we’ll be able to show off soon. Stay tuned!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 17:24:11
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Normally I'd roll my eyes at RefBot's G-String and pasties, but with that gigantic visor and roller heels nothing else would work so perfectly.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I hope they keep the Saturn knee pads. I also want the visor from the left one with the Centauri crest from the right one.
I suddenly have an urge to go to Epcot Center.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 17:30:51
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Only thing that worries me about the sumo lizards is them actually fitting on a regular base and not seriously overhanging it.
Of course if they went and made a team of giant sumo lizards, I'd be alright with it. They'd make some good Reb muscle and all around useful space thugs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 17:33:27
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Remember the hexes are getting bigger, so a little overhang is ok now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 19:05:18
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Foxy Wildborne
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That's what I tell myself every morning when I button my pants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 20:39:17
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Regular Dakkanaut
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any word on the following
Dreadball Pitchs:
Stadiums/arenas/urban centers to put your dreadball pitch in
terrain?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/12 20:44:35
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The pitch was on page 2
hexes will be larger (not sure how much larger), but that's the info so far
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/13 02:19:32
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:Only thing that worries me about the sumo lizards is them actually fitting on a regular base and not seriously overhanging it.
Of course if they went and made a team of giant sumo lizards, I'd be alright with it. They'd make some good Reb muscle and all around useful space thugs!
I just hope their faces are deep enough. I want kaiju, not Amazing Siperman villains.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/13 17:21:39
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Amazing Siperman!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 18:01:56
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sports Robots – Striker, Jack and Guard
Yndij – Striker, Jack and Guard
Balls!
The humble DreadBall gets a redesign in the new core game. It’s slightly larger than before, so it’s less fiddly, and you get more of them in the box.
Also, it is detachable from the base:
… why you might ask?
Well, we’re also re-tooling the DreadBall hex bases. Don’t panic, you don’t need to cut your models off their old bases and replace them with new ones, it’s just an example of where we’re trying to improve the original contents.
The new hex base is still 25mm across but comes with the threat hexes marked on the base, which also helps for determining direction. There’s also a hole in the top of the base, where you can plug in the ball, which means no more balancing it on top!
The new bases will be included in the core game, in team sets re-released alongside the core game in 2017 and I’m sure will be available separately too.
Question: does Mantic expect to stop manufacturing the original bases and balls?
I suspect we won’t produce any more hex bases because we do have a lot of stock of the existing ones, so there’s plenty if anyone wants to stock up now.. Regarding the balls, each team we produce the Corp and Marauder teams, we get an old RefBot and 2 plastic balls, and we’ve got a metal mold of the ball too, so I’m sure the old design ball will stick around
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 18:09:33
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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That's a good idea for the hex bases. Good thing I never bothered gluing anyone to them, especially if they include enough in the new version for at least two full teams (which I imagine they would).
Having a hard time telling the difference in the artwork between the striker and jack robots. Hopefully the poses further clarify as well who is who, because the differences there seem to be very subtle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 18:18:23
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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Someone mentioned the exact same thing in the blog comments about the Striker and Jack and apparently it will come down to posing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 19:18:57
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think the bases are slighty larger, only by 2-4 MM. I'm interested to see the the reasoning behind it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 19:35:27
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Triszin wrote:I think the bases are slighty larger, only by 2-4 MM. I'm interested to see the the reasoning behind it.
"The new hex base is still 25mm across ..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 19:52:43
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm derpy. Completely didn't see that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 15:56:52
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Fixture of Dakka
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$100 The pledge level includes:
Dreadball Core Set (contents below)
DreadBall Team Guide: Containing all the rules, background and stats for every team, team captain and MVP.
DreadBall Ultimate expansion allows up to 6 players to play DreadBall at the same time and includes rules booklet, counters, and card deck.
There’s even a newly artworked ultimate pitch design, included on the reverse side of the standard pitch. Now you’ll only need to carry one pitch around!
Exclusives
DreadBall comes with two from the off: Fergus, an offensive coach and Tracer, a Support coach.
Tracer
DreadBall: The Futuristic Sports Game core set includes
Core Rulebook: with everything you need to know to play plus League System and advanced rules for cheerleaders, coaches and more.
New Teams: the Draconis All-Stars robot team and Ninth Moon Tree Sharks Yndij team.
DreadBall Pitch: with new artwork and location zones for cards, action tokens, discard pile and an in-built scatter diagram (as requested by the community!) The hexes on the pitch are a little bigger at 28mm rather than 25mm to give some room for arms and tails.
Everything you need to play: Revised cards, counters, dice, redesigned roster pad, RefBot MKII and lots of newly redesigned DreadBalls.
Early Yindij render
What is the pitch made out of?
Card Board, like the original
Will the zombie and sumo teams be part of the $100 pledge? Stretch Goals? Add-ons? How are they obtained?
Stretch goals that get included in the pledge, should they get funded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 19:25:47
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Looks good, although for £76 + ~£10 shipping, it'll have to have quite a bit of stuff in there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 22:50:37
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Dakka Veteran
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Indeed, Mantic benefits greatly from the weak pound (although presumably manufacturing in China becomes pricier as well), the sizeable UK backer base does not! Will be interesting to see if this makes things more muted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 01:25:16
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I'm not opposed to Mantic chasing the dollar by offering up all sorts of bonus freebies like they used to.
They want me to back, they're going to have to earn my money. I am easily swayed by piles of figures however, and if the models move to the newer Deadzone plastics, they should be quite nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 07:58:13
Subject: Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Looks like you can expect (at least) 6 teams in the final count.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/21 09:08:56
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Dreadball 2nd Edition - Kickstarter 22nd of July 13:30 BST to 7th of August
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That's the plan  Same as TWD too.
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