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That's some pretty impressive stuff there!

What kind of production costs are you looking at with these? I'll be happy to take my answer via PM or email (benson@mindwormgames.com) if you don't want to publicly broadcast your COGS.

 
   
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Those look really good (and seem to suit the techinique better than their own space crusader minis too)

 
   
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Yeah I'm pretty surprised, they were even able to get Janey's little cigarette and everything I'm going to be sending a set out for pro painting, and gonna paint up my own set as soon as I get em, so I'll post painted pics when I get em

Here's a link about Prodos' unicast with some pricing info:
http://prodosgames.com/blog/prodos-unicast-is-here

Generally my costs were slightly higher than they have on their page, but half as much as metal minis would cost me. Or maybe the page is just listing prices in pounds or euros and I missed it, but not a huge difference. For you though since you are making your own minis it might be cheaper to stick to that? I'm not able to so this was the cheapest and best way for me to go. One big savings for me over metal was all of these minis are in the same mold, rather than metal where they always want me to have a separate mold for every piece.. so if your minis are all 2-3 pieces the mold costs shoot up real fast. That's the problem I ran into with my werewolves in chupacabras.

The only thing is that the sculpts must be 3D, because they may have to do some minor tweaks to be able to get them to cast right. These guys didn't need any tweaks but some of my other sculpts do, it's usually just to move an arm or weapon a little bit to get things to line up right.

   
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I think that one of the winning points are that the casts are all done in a single piece. Not everyone who plays games ejoy the cleaning and assembling part, and for them, this is just perfect.

   
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 Necros wrote:
Generally my costs were slightly higher than they have on their page, but half as much as metal minis would cost me. Or maybe the page is just listing prices in pounds or euros and I missed it, but not a huge difference. For you though since you are making your own minis it might be cheaper to stick to that?


Oh, I'm not switching away from casting in house. That's half the fun! We do it that way for lots of reasons other than cost.

I was just curious about costs. I assume those prices are in pounds, although it doesn't say. Still, 60 cents per unit with no minimum order quantity is pretty good. You'll have to let me know what turnaround time is like for production and restocks. Again, just curious.


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I think that one of the winning points are that the casts are all done in a single piece. Not everyone who plays games ejoy the cleaning and assembling part, and for them, this is just perfect.


I agree that single piece casts with integral bases is a good idea. I think that makes the product a lot more accessible.

With Exiles (shameless link), we're getting a lot of customers from RPGs and board games, many of whom have no modeling experience.

Exiles is a very cross-genre game, so we planned for that. On a high level though, I think it's great for there to be minis-oriented games that are easily accessible to folks with little or no minis experience. FFG's X-Wing, Armada, and Imperial Assault games are all good examples as well.

Market expansion is always a good thing . Of course, it's even better if the games are Wild West!

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I also get a lot of that too, people with more of a RPG or board game background and less of a 40k background like me. Lots of people have said they want to use my minis for Deadlands or Shadows of Brimstone and will probably never play my rules at all. Which is fine, I'm happy to sell stuff either way

Once I get things up and running with the 2nd edition I'm planning to put together a series of how to play videos that I think will help show how easy and fun the game is, without forcing someone to read 50 pages first.

As far as time goes, so far the 3D printing took about a week, and the mold making took about a week. Not sure about production yet but they seem to be on the ball with requests when I have em. I guesstimated my Kickstarter delivery date a few months in advance just to be safe, but I think the slowest part is going to be waiting for the rules to print and ship from China, and I'm betting the Chinese new year is going to happen right in the middle of everything too.

   
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Howdy Pardners!

We are at 80% funded and climbing! Keep up the great work sharing the campaign with all your friends We can do this!

For today's update, we wanted to introduce you all to the Unsung and their leader, J. W. Clarkson. We'll be sharing more bios and other details about the world of Blackwater Gulch throughout the campaign.

“Yes little child; there are monsters in this world. And they're afraid of me!” - JW Clarkson

It was while working on laying the railtrack that runs into Blackwater Gulch that JW Clarkson first learned about the monstrous creatures of the night. Having finished for the day, John Williams Clarkson and the rest of his engineering gang returned to their camp for the nights meal and a well earned bottle or two of Bower moonshine.

Fed and rested, they turned in, each drifting off to sleep tired from the day's labours, all except Clarkson and his foreman Colin Buchanan. Unease filled each man and silently they gathered their weapons: Clarkson took his axe, used for clearing down trees, while Buchanan brought his railroad hammer. No sooner had they stepped from the light of the dying fire into the shadows, the creatures attacked.

Huge, monstrous beasts fell on the sleeping railroad workers, ripping at flesh with razor-like claws; tearing at bone with giant teeth. It happened in seconds, but time slowed for Clarkson that he saw every detail, committing to memory the monsters that massacred his men. Buchanan started to step forward, desperate to help those he had once called friend, but Clarkson held him back, knowing only too well that to try to fight these beasts on their terms was certain death.

Instead, they waited for the creatures to finish feasting, then tracked them for three days back to their lair, and while the creatures slept, the two men slaughtered them with axe and hammer. They stepped out of the cave, covered in blood and so began their new careers as monster hunters.

To their side came Ruthie Mae, daughter of the preacher at Blackwater Chapel, intrigued by these two men who stumbled into the small church one night, seeking the water from the font. She joined them in an instant, keen to learn what they knew of these beasts, having witnessed first hand their evil when they slaughtered her father. She travels with the Unsung, blessing their weapons against these evil creatures.

Janey Bower, famous moonshiner and all round rogue, was discovered in the woods, half mad but intent on killing the demons that savaged her best customer. Her moonshining skills were turned to creating firewater, a deadly weapon that cleanses dens of beasts.

Finally Van Dyke, a bounty hunter, caught up with Clarkson and his gang, intent on claiming the bounty put on the gang boss' head by the railroad company. It was their belief that Clarkson massacred the railroad workers, but within an hour of catching up to the Unsung, Van Dyke saw the true beast that wandered in the shadows, and signed on.

   
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 Necros wrote:
Howdy Pardners!

As promised, here is a photo if the first batch of production miniatures for the Unsung!



Click here for a high res close up version.

As you can see, the miniatures are all 1 piece! Even Van Dyke running with his Rifle and J. W. Clarkson swinging his axe. In metal they would have had to be 2 or 3 pieces, not to mention the bases. I'm still amazed whenever I see them.

I've also decided to splurge a little and I asked Krisztian to start the sculpt for Ashton Campbell. He's one character I really would love to add to the game, so I'm hoping that seeing the final sculpt will help entice more folks to jump in and get him unlocked I will share that when I get pictures, it will probably take a week or so.

I think we're in a good place and are at exactly 75% funded now, and climbing. Please share with all of your friends

That's really impressive!! I've totally backed
   
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Thanks

   
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Gosh I am in, too! This KS looks great! I especially love the box set.

I bought the first edition Blackwater Gulch rulebook (small paperback) way back but sort of got sidetracked on getting into the game. This is a great time to get stuck in!

   
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Thanks

And we just got the WIP shots for the Ashton Campbell sculpt. Here he is



You can click here for the high res version

   
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We have just unlocked our first 3 additional characters since they are being sculpted now, there one for each new gang. All Gunslinger or Bounty Hunter backers may choose one of these solo miniatures for free. So, now it's not only the Jersey Devil mini that's free, you can pick the one you want. You may choose from the Jersey Devil, Ashton Campbell or Mr. Kreeper.

Additionally, beyond your free miniature, all other unlocked solo miniatures can be added to your pledge for $8 each if you would like to get any of the others. Here is a complete list of our next 8 stretch goals. Click here for a high res version.



We hope these updated goals will be a lot more straight forward and easier to attain, since we won't need to unlock a whole booster pack anymore. it's a lot cheaper to produce just 1 new miniature at a time.

Thank you all for your support! We are getting a little closer every day! Please continue to share

Please help us get our second edition funded!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gangfightgames/blackwater-gulch-second-edition/

   
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Looking good so far. I like how things are coming along, I backed.
   
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Funding achieved! Congrats Necros!

Awesome. Now it's on to some fun!

 
   
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No, not achieved yet it's inching upwards though. Since I was able to get a bunch of regular web sales recently (just like the last campaign) I was able to fund the new sculpts for Ashton Campbell and Mr. Kreeper, so we tweaked the stretch goals a bit and unlocked these extra minis.

But we're in the mid-campaign part now so it's gonna be slow. We've still been bringing in a anywhere from 5-10 new backers every day, but around the same amount are dropping out, so we've been stuck in the same spot for the last few days. Would have funded by now for sure if they stuck around, but that's Kickstarter for ya Still have over 2 weeks to go though, so plenty of time to keep moving and plenty of new stuff to show off as we go.

We are going to start posting regular updates now, at least 1 per day, each one focusing on a new character with their history and and also special abilities. I'll also be posting my own little video review of the new Unsung miniatures as soon as I get my samples. And hopefully I can at least get 3D prints of The Wicked & Wormwood Wardens done before the campaign ends, but 3D prints take a while. And when I get the art finished I'll be revealing some bonus campaign exclusive loot cards too

   
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 Necros wrote:
No, not achieved yet it's inching upwards though. Since I was able to get a bunch of regular web sales recently (just like the last campaign) I was able to fund the new sculpts for Ashton Campbell and Mr. Kreeper, so we tweaked the stretch goals a bit and unlocked these extra minis.

But we're in the mid-campaign part now so it's gonna be slow. We've still been bringing in a anywhere from 5-10 new backers every day, but around the same amount are dropping out, so we've been stuck in the same spot for the last few days. Would have funded by now for sure if they stuck around, but that's Kickstarter for ya Still have over 2 weeks to go though, so plenty of time to keep moving and plenty of new stuff to show off as we go.

We are going to start posting regular updates now, at least 1 per day, each one focusing on a new character with their history and and also special abilities. I'll also be posting my own little video review of the new Unsung miniatures as soon as I get my samples. And hopefully I can at least get 3D prints of The Wicked & Wormwood Wardens done before the campaign ends, but 3D prints take a while. And when I get the art finished I'll be revealing some bonus campaign exclusive loot cards too


Oh. Well, that's still good!

I saw stretch goals getting unlocked and I thought the campaign had funded.

 
   
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Would have pledged if I could get some proxies for Shadows of Brimstone (as well as unarmed Civilians for Rules with No Name!).

Should fund by the end of the pledge period, so nuthin' to worry about!

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Those solos are great. Always enjoyed Jeepers Creepers, so I might back to get the Kreeper, and throw a couple others to in too.
   
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Yeah since I don't play Shadows of Brimstone I really just don't know what minis to make as proxies. I always thought that was kind of a Cthulu themed game. Won't rule it out but monster wise I don't really plan to go down that road anytime soon, I feel like that whole mythos has been done to death lately.. and zombies too

Here's our latest update

Howdy Pardners!

Well the campaign is halfway over now, 2 weeks in and 2 weeks to go! We've gotten real far in just these 2 weeks, and now I have a big update for you.

First, we have the final version of the sculpt for Ashton Campbell. Here he is, I really love the extra base details Click here to enlarge.



I just received my sample copies of the Unsung miniatures. I'm really impressed with the details and the fact that they're all 1 piece. Photos just don't do them justice. I tried to make a video to zoom in and show the details, but it didn't come out too good. I'll try again, maybe with some better lighting. In the meantime, here is a photo of them with some other miniatures and a ruler so you can see how big they are. I also love how the bases on the miniatures fit perfectly into the tops of our standard 30mm bases. Click here to enlarge.



Last but not least, after checking our stock levels it looks like we only have around 7 copies of the metal Tranquility Crew miniatures in stock. I was planning to order more, but I decided it would be better off to have them updated to plastic along with these 3 new gangs since they are one of our biggest sellers. However, since they were sculpted with greenstuff, they won't work as Unicast miniatures because they will all have to be 3D. So, they will need to be resculpted too.

So, now you will be able to add The Tranquility Crew to your pledge if you want them, or in the pledge manager at the end. Like the other new gangs, they will cost $25, or $20 for Gunslingers. They can be an add-on item and you can just increase your pledge amount to cover them, or you may select them as one of the 3 gangs for a Gunslinger pledge.

That's all for today! Thank you all for your support! Keep sharing

   
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The SoB heroes are all western themed:
* Saloon Girl / Piano Player
* Bandido / Bandida
* Indian Scout (m) / Indian Scout (f)
* Preacher / Nun
* Lawman (m) / Lawman (f)
* Outlaw (m) / Outlaw (f)
* US Marshal (m) / US Marshal (f)
* Rancher (m) / Rancher (f)

Pic: http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic2547010_lg.jpg
Pic: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xRFSPsZCCCE/VoadnSKJh5I/AAAAAAAALwY/hj0QNkBTlQ0/s1600/SOB%2BMini%2BCards.jpeg
Pic: https://boardgamegeek.com/camo/167de129c917fa09355af6c77a1ff726599eeeef/687474703a2f2f6b61626f756d2e66722f706c61636172642f6272696d73746f6e652f536861646f77732532306f662532304272696d73746f6e65253230496e697469617469766525323043617264732532302d2532304865726f6573253230616e64253230416c7465726e61746525323047656e6465722e7a69702e6a7067

You already have miniatures that can be used as proxies, such as the Bandito, Bandita, and male Indian scout. Of course, Lawman, Outlaw, US Marshal, and Rancher are generic.

Anyway, posting to say that the Ash base looks REALLY good. Well done! Maybe a future KS to make "monster corpse" bases?

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"And while I'm forgiving of one mishap, this string of incidences suggests the problem is with the project managers, not whom they hire, what materials they are using, what language their backers are using, etc. I do notice that entrepreneurs have more self-confidence than other people, and need it to persevere bad luck and obstacles. But this self-confidence can turn into "do nothing wrong" blindness, which prevents these people from admitting mistakes and improving themselves." -- September 3, 2014 
   
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Almost there, only $2500 to funded. It is getting there and should fund and have enough time to unlock a couple stretch goals.
   
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Yep we're trickling our way up Things are going well and I'll have a nice extra bonus item to add in on sunday's update that will make it an even better deal and hopefully help bring in some more. I'm hoping to have pics of the Mr. Kreeper sculpt done very soon too, and some new art for the Tranquility Crew.


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Oh and I like those SoB characters, we might be able to do some of them in our next campaign that is going to be focused more on henchmen & minions.

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Good to hear it!

Very interested in seeing how the henchmen and minions look, particularly if some don't have weapons or don't look heroic. Not enough secondary characters (or civilians!) in miniatures, imo!

"And while I'm forgiving of one mishap, this string of incidences suggests the problem is with the project managers, not whom they hire, what materials they are using, what language their backers are using, etc. I do notice that entrepreneurs have more self-confidence than other people, and need it to persevere bad luck and obstacles. But this self-confidence can turn into "do nothing wrong" blindness, which prevents these people from admitting mistakes and improving themselves." -- September 3, 2014 
   
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Yeah the henchmen are pretty much all townsfolk or low level types, and minions are like pets or monsters like zombies. They will come 3 per pack and all have the same stats and the same weapon, but 3 different sculpts/poses. So like a pack of bandits will all just have 1 pistol, farmers armed with pitchforks, town drunks armed with broken bottles, stuff like that.

They're wimpy and easy to kill, but they get a special Teamwork rule, where they can kind of work like a small squad. If they move together and gang up on the same target, they get bonuses to hit. Or you can also use them solo too if you'd rather do that, but they're more effective fighting together.

   
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Looking good Necros!
   
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It's getting there.. closer and closer every day Yesterday was nice, had around the usual number of new backers, but this time only 1 dropout. We've been getting a lot of new backers each day but a lot of dropouts too, so the total wasn't moving for a while even though there were a bunch of people joining.

We probably would have had a few stretch goals unlocked by now if people stuck around, but I know what that's like .. i've dropped out of plenty of campaigns myself because something shinier popped up

I have a nice update planned for Sunday with some extra bonus goodies, and hopefully will have the Mr Kreeper sculpt to show off soon, and new art for the Tranquility Crew.

   
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I backed for at least the rulebook, hopefully a starter or two later. Good luck!
   
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Norristown, PA

Thanks

   
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Howdy Pardners!

We are now in the final week of the campaign and we have some great updates to share.

First, here are the screenshots of the sculpt for Mr. Kreeper. He'll be armed with an Unholy Blade and some concealed bone shurikens for tossing at people. Check him out, and you can click here for the high res version.



Next up, I have an all new bonus item for all Gunslinger backers! A little while ago, we sculpted a small western building kit that I hoped to produce in resin, but unfortunately I couldn't get a cheap enough production price to make it an affordable model. I'll still continue to look into other options, but for now I don't plan to produce it myself. But, that doesn't mean you can't have it! All Gunslinger backers will receive a copy of the print-ready 3D files for the building kit. If you have or know someone who has a 3D printer, you can make as many as you want! There are also other print services out there like Shapeways who can print it for you for a fee. Here's what it looks like, you can click here to enlarge.



It measures roughly 4x4", each wall panel is a separate piece, and there's little tabs on each wall so you can put the pieces together easily. It also has a separate roof that you can remove so you can move you models around inside. I plan to produce more building kits, and will probably just stick to releasing them as 3D print ready files. 3D printers are getting cheaper and better as time goes on, there have already been many kickstarter campaigns offering 3D models and I think in a few years time these will become a lot more common. So we hope to eventually have quite a few different building kits available for you to download, with compatible parts so you can mix and match and come up with more unique buildings of your own eventually.

We are nearing the home stretch. I should have some more goodies to show off as the week goes by, so stay tuned!

   
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We’re having the Tranquility Crew resculpted and rereleased as part of our Second Edition campaign, as the original metal miniatures are pretty much sold out now, and they need to be redone in 3D to work as Unicast miniatures.

(On that note, we plan to eventually do the same to all of our gangs when the metal minis sell out, but those that were done in 3D will probably not get a resuclpt since the files are already ready to go)

Anyway, we’re getting new concept art for the Tranquility Crew done now. Here are the first two, Captain Nathan Reinhardt and Adam James. We should have the art for the rest of the crew done today or tomorrow. Also Krisztian has just started sculpting Captain Reinhardt and we should at least have some WIP pics to show this weekend.



You can get the new Tranquility Crew in our kickstarter now. You can select them as one of the gangs in the Gunslinger pledge, or they will be a $20 add-on if you want the other 3 gangs too. Or separately for pledges they will cost $25. Retail price is expected to be $30 for all new gangs.

Each gang starter will also include quickstart rules, character cards and a bonus loot card not included in the standard deck that comes in the ruleset box

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gangfightgames/blackwater-gulch-second-edition

   
 
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