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I have to say, that Darksaber episode came off a lot better than I was expecting. And if Sabine getting a proper storyline means Ezra takes backseat for a while, so much the better.
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LordofHats wrote: Episode recanonizes the Mandalorian War XD Wonder if that means Revan will end up canon again too.
The finale episodes of season 2 demonstrate that, some version at least, of Knights of the Old Republic 2 happened. Not exactly as in the game, but pretty darn close.
So I'd say that it's highly likely that some version of Revan is canon.
He ALMOST became canon in The Clone Wars before Lucas pulled the plug (after they'd done a model for him and everything).
It wouldn't surprise me if we saw it or elements of it (if not the whole thing) get used now that Lucas isn't around, assuming Disney doesn't mind him turning up.
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It's LUCASFILM controlling the SW continuity btw, NOT DISNEY. Lucasfilm is the 'L' in the Lucasfilm Story Group. It's not the DSG, after all.
If the story group want to bring Revan in, they will (because there are many gaming nerds in that group).
Disney has no say in it. You might have noticed a lack of Disney logos to either Rogue 1 or ep7? Yeah? They (LFL) may be OWNED by Disney, but the movies AREN'T disney movies.
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After having just watched Twin Suns (the Kenobi vs Maul episode), I must say they (as in Disney and their Star Wars outlets) over-hyped it way too much.
Unfortunately to me it ended up feeling like a filler episode and a pretty weak end to a story arc that's been building across the season. Not sure if that's because of the over-hype or not.
I know the episode couldn't be too big and over shadow the finale episodes (especially since it's the last episode before the finale arc), but even then it felt weak next to episodes like Secret Cargo and Through Imperial Eyes (especially Through Imperial Eyes). Also the stakes being low because we know Kenobi has to survive any conflict between him and Maul with no real major injuries probably didn't help either (and I suppose why they went the way they did).
Also at the end of it all Ezra for like the 6th time now apologises to Hera and Kanan and says he's learnt his lesson and he belongs with the rebels and won't try and go solo against there wishes and blah de blah de blah.
/rant.
On the plus side though this episode didn't do anything that goes against Kenobi's character and Maul had some decent moments.
I've not seen anything in that episode barring the showdown between Maul and Kenobi, but
Spoiler:
I absolutely loved it. It makes sense that Kenobi won't be jumping, flipping about, doing fancy stuff etc etc.
Maul is blinded by hatred, desperate for this fight, but Kenobi has been ready for this the whole time. In fact, I do very much like the fighting in it. Even though there's only three strikes made, the positioning is perfect.
Kenobi prepares to use form III, like he normally does, and Maul is ready for this. But then he switches to a form IV stance, the style Qui-Gon used. Maul has fought both types, and knowing he beat Qui-Gon, he attacks in exactly the same way he did to Qui-Gon. His style is identical, his lunge the same. Yet Obi-Wan knows this. He deliberately switches to the IV stance to provoke Maul into the attack, but still uses his normal form III style. Kenobi has Maul right where he wants him, and end the fight cleanly and without emotion - the Jedi way.
It could have been longer, but it makes absolute sense that a blinded and incoherent Maul vs a collected and prepared Kenobi would end like this.
A lot of the hyping was of fans, and Maul could have been milked a lot more, but as a conclusion, it's certainly solid.
But I don't envy the Rebels crew having to tie up the loose ends left by Clone Wars rather abrupt end.
So far, the episodes I've seen have done it quite seamlessly, with old characters returning in ways that no only make sense, but leave enough of a narrative gap to be explored further in other media.
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It actually calls to mind a duel between Samurai (at least in pop culture), the 'fight' is in the positioning, footwork and stance, then resolved in a matter of blows. Kenobi had years to think this through, and he states that he knew Maul was coming, Maul on the other hand is further into madness than he's ever been. It's not a fair fight by any stretch. While it would have been awesome to see the two take each other on one last time in an epic showdown, this almost deliberate anticlimax works just as well.
And of course now that's wrapped up, nothing stands between Disney and a Kenobi/Vader film set between RotS and ANH...
As I said, I think most of my disappointing is coming from Disney hyping it up. With how large of a moment the marketing was making it out to be you'd think it'd be a bit more climactic. It works fine from a character stand point (perfect for Kenobi, though I think Maul could have done with being a bit more savage), it's just marketing made it out to be more than it was.
Over and above it's plot strand, I've realised that that episode just tied the saga together for me. From clever use of Kenobi's message in Revenge of the Sith, to seeing (and indeed hearing) the older version, it bridged a gap I hadn't actually noticed was there. Tied up an on old, pre-Rebels plot strand, and brought us closer to A New Hope's story.
Just really wonderful stuff!
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Over and above it's plot strand, I've realised that that episode just tied the saga together for me. From clever use of Kenobi's message in Revenge of the Sith, to seeing (and indeed hearing) the older version, it bridged a gap I hadn't actually noticed was there. Tied up an on old, pre-Rebels plot strand, and brought us closer to A New Hope's story.
Just really wonderful stuff!
Yeah, I quite enjoyed it. It actually managed to make me feel sorry for Maul.
There is a certain tragedy to Maul's final demise for any long-term Clone Wars/Rebels fan. The series did a fantastic job of taking him from 'that pretty cool guy in Phantom Menace' with really nothing to him beyond a double ended lightsaber and making him one of the most impressive, complex and arguably even relatable villains in all of Star Wars. Considering how in less competent hands his return could have been just a gimmick to boost ratings, it's a pretty remarkable achievement.
Twin Suns definitely marks the end of an era, and one of the best Star Wars stories ever told.
On an unrelated note, anyone know when we're getting the last couple of episodes on Sky in the UK? We've not had any since Twin Suns.
I like so much of this trailer, happy to see Bo-Katan back.
Also since Rebels last season re-canonized the Defender Ive been happy, and then the teaser earlier this week for Battlefront 2 showed the Raider Corvette and now that's canonized and its good. Love those two ships.
Bo Katan returning was teased a little late last year (Dave Filoni leaked it also).
(Katie Sackhoff mentioned recording dialogue and returning to a familiar role).
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Ah. The only SW trailer that matters IMO. Forget that Last Jedi stuff. You can already pick what the plot of that is "The Jedi must die because as long as we exist so will the Dark Side blah blah blah." Spare me.
Forget that noise, let's get back to Rebels, and Thrawn, and TIE Defenders, and Manalorians.
