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2018/04/02 09:40:55
Subject: Ready Player One
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Terrifying Doombull
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The only time anyone should see this Movie is if they got it for free, or had the chance to sneak into a Movie theather. Dull cast, dull director and medicore soundtrack.
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2018/04/02 11:06:32
Subject: Ready Player One
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Colonel
This Is Where the Fish Lives
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Crazyterran wrote:Any 40k references? Raynor and Tracer from Blizzard properties are in it, was wondering if my other nerd thing made the cut.
Lance845 wrote:No 40k I saw. But there was an exo squad!
From what I understand, there was an Eldar in the final battle but I didn't see it (there's so much to see that it's impossible to catch everything the first time through).
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d-usa wrote:"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people." |
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2018/04/02 11:22:01
Subject: Ready Player One
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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If so, maybe ask GW about it, they could shed light on this.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2018/04/02 11:36:38
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I didn't see it, but of course I could have missed it. That being said I think it's unlikely that if GWS were to license a character from Warhammer to appear in a major film, that character would be anything other than an Ultramarine.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2018/04/02 12:42:27
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Nasty Nob
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I thoroughly enjoyed it. No pretensions at any critical analysis I just thought it was an enjoyable sci-fI movie that moved along at an entertaining pace. I walked out with my son (12), niece (14) and father (77) all having enjoyed it, and without feeling the 2 hours running time.
Worth a shufty if you're at a loose end.
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2018/04/02 14:33:11
Subject: Ready Player One
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Ouze wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:What was that suggested at the end with that moment with the Oasis creator? Querying whether he was actually dead, any why his avatar was like his real form. Seemed implied he’d done something like upload his consciousness into the Oasis prior to dying or am I misinterpreting the scene? I don't think you're misinterpreting it, I think he was implying exactly what you say, which is of course something that didn't at all happen in the book; so who knows where that was going.
I don't necessarily think the creator actually "uploaded" his consciousness in a literal sense, however he most certainly "poured himself" into every fiber of the Oasis in the way all creators devote themselves into their creations. I also took from the movie a bit of a cautionary tale. We are too "plugged in" to technology and instead of connecting us, it actually keeps us all alone. We aren't real people when we are online, only avatars of what we desire to be and will put ourselves in debt to continue the illusion. If it continues, we might see facilities like the IOI taking control and bleeding people dry, basically making them slaves. I like that they decided to shut down the Oasis a could days of the week to force people...to be people. I'm really glad I saw this with my video-game addicted kids. -
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2018/04/03 10:15:23
Subject: Ready Player One
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Fixture of Dakka
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The "is he a ghost in the machine" question sort of came from nowhere* and didn't really go anywhere. An interesting idea, perhaps it's a spoiler hook?
*although it did occur to me a couple of times through the film. In general, not just that character. there's room to work with the idea of "ghosts" or spontaneously sapient NPCs arising.
It also occurred to me that the contest was rigged; Simon Pegg's character seemed to help the protagonist quite significantly. I felt like he was definitely working against IOI, although he could perhaps have done a bit more.
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2018/04/03 10:39:26
Subject: Ready Player One
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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He answered questions put to him. But most people, including IOI, just ignored the potential in the archive resources.
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2018/04/03 13:39:33
Subject: Ready Player One
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Right, I get the impression that he would help those who asked the "right" questions. That's probably why he was so annoyed by Wade in the beginning. Because he wasn't asking the right questions.
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2018/04/03 17:25:56
Subject: Ready Player One
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Fixture of Dakka
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Haven't seen it yet, but looking forward to eventually. I didn't really like the book but when I've asked people about it I've generally gotten more positive responses from people that either didn't read or didn't like the book, so I'm hoping I'll like it better.
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2018/04/03 18:37:11
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Did anyone else find the depiction of the IOI pop culture expert team ironic? I mean, surely that is exactly how Warner Bros. put the references together. Also is it not, you know, more-than-slightly egotistical for Halliday to build the contest around autobiographical trivia? As a matter of exposition, we are told that people universally love Halliday ... so it's hard to understand how the protagonists' obsession with him synchronizes with devotion to obscure minutiae celebrated by the setting/plot. The "virtue" that allows Wade to succeed where others have failed is implied to be purity of heart but mechanically it's more like memorization of otherwise useless ephemera ... which, because of the god-like stature of Halliday, isn't ephemera at all, any more so than (for example) the facts of Lincoln's life. If Wade had memorized the Gettysburg Address, would it make him seem more virtuous than someone who simply referred to the text?
Conclusion: not a movie you are meant to think about.
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2018/04/03 20:39:43
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Manchu wrote:Did anyone else find the depiction of the IOI pop culture expert team ironic? I mean, surely that is exactly how Warner Bros. put the references together. Also is it not, you know, more-than-slightly egotistical for Halliday to build the contest around autobiographical trivia? As a matter of exposition, we are told that people universally love Halliday ... so it's hard to understand how the protagonists' obsession with him synchronizes with devotion to obscure minutiae celebrated by the setting/plot. The "virtue" that allows Wade to succeed where others have failed is implied to be purity of heart but mechanically it's more like memorization of otherwise useless ephemera ... which, because of the god-like stature of Halliday, isn't ephemera at all, any more so than (for example) the facts of Lincoln's life. If Wade had memorized the Gettysburg Address, would it make him seem more virtuous than someone who simply referred to the text?
Conclusion: not a movie you are meant to think about.
Have you read the book? It covers a lot of these themes and explains them. There is a serious question in the book about whether the hero is actually a healthy human being or a victim of Halliday's obsessions.
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
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2018/04/04 05:58:23
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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This!
At least, that was the vibe I got from the book, people were obsessing over the stuff Halliday obsessed over ("I liked this stuff, now you must like it as well if you want to win the game!"), which made me more than once wonder if people genuinely liked it or just obsessed over it for the sake of finding the prize.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2018/04/04 13:55:23
Subject: Ready Player One
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Haven't read the book (didn't even know it existed until the movie came out), but I got the impression that each challenge was designed specifically in contrast with all of Halliday's obsessions.
As if Halliday had regrets that his whole life was spent in front of a screen instead of living it himself. So he created the challenges to find a successor that would truly learn from this lesson and actually live a real life. "Take the leap" as it were.
Am I wrong? Or did I just see what I wanted to see?
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2018/04/04 14:05:33
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Manchu wrote:Conclusion: not a movie you are meant to think about.
No, definitely not. It's a movie based on a book that's a pretty flimsy premise, really, and I think the next book he wrote, Armada, revealed that Cline really only had one fairly lazy trick up his sleeve - repackaged nostalgia spackling over a multitude of plotting and mechanical sins.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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2018/04/04 14:24:19
Subject: Ready Player One
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Galef wrote:Haven't read the book (didn't even know it existed until the movie came out), but I got the impression that each challenge was designed specifically in contrast with all of Halliday's obsessions.
As if Halliday had regrets that his whole life was spent in front of a screen instead of living it himself. So he created the challenges to find a successor that would truly learn from this lesson and actually live a real life. "Take the leap" as it were.
Am I wrong? Or did I just see what I wanted to see?
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Halliday talks about the need to live ones life at the end, but its pretty clear from the book that neither he nor the protagnoist were equipped for it. I haven't seen the movie yet, but in the book our hero starts out as incredibly overweight from a lack of exercise and only the danger or IOI forces him to get fit in case he needs to run for his life. There's also a great scene in which he suffers from Agrophopia in real life. I actually liked that this guy who had just been a thousand man virtual rave flipped out when confronted with the real world outside of their safe zones.
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
https://www.victorwardbooks.com/ Home of Dark Days series |
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2018/04/11 16:26:27
Subject: Ready Player One
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Saw it with wife and teenager girl kid.. (family of geeks)
We really enjoyed it.. even the kid who I thought would have issues (she reread the book twice in the month prior to release)
While it is not "true to the books" it sure FELT like it was the book's world.. we had NO issues with the changing of the Key/Gate challenges, AND appreciated that the film makers put the novels Key/Gate challenges in as "easter eggs" in the film..
I found 5 of the 6 (IIRC) in the first viewing..
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2018/04/11 19:01:07
Subject: Ready Player One
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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ChargerIIC wrote: Galef wrote:Haven't read the book (didn't even know it existed until the movie came out), but I got the impression that each challenge was designed specifically in contrast with all of Halliday's obsessions.
As if Halliday had regrets that his whole life was spent in front of a screen instead of living it himself. So he created the challenges to find a successor that would truly learn from this lesson and actually live a real life. "Take the leap" as it were.
Am I wrong? Or did I just see what I wanted to see?
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Halliday talks about the need to live ones life at the end, but its pretty clear from the book that neither he nor the protagnoist were equipped for it. I haven't seen the movie yet, but in the book our hero starts out as incredibly overweight from a lack of exercise and only the danger or IOI forces him to get fit in case he needs to run for his life. There's also a great scene in which he suffers from Acrophobia in real life. I actually liked that this guy who had just been a thousand man virtual rave flipped out when confronted with the real world outside of their safe zones.
Saw the movie and now some of the confusion makes sense. The movie has a lot of 'disneyizations' and definitely pushes the idea of our Hero being worthy of some great ideal. It was a pity that the whole subplot about Percival forcing his real life body and self to integrate in the real world being gone. The cutting also made the romance subplot into something of disney princess speed relationship, but I suppose a 4 hour movie wouldn't have been enjoyed by anyone.
People are talking about them making Armada a movie. Not certain that would be a good thing - without all those little subplots (of which there are very few in Armada) it really would just be The Last Starfighter
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Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
https://www.victorwardbooks.com/ Home of Dark Days series |
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2018/04/11 19:41:52
Subject: Re:Ready Player One
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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I read the book pretty much when it came out.
I saw the movie a couple weekends back.
I think Spielberg did an excellent job fitting in what he could, I could imagine licensing could be a nightmare.
He did a great job roping in some more recent iconic characters in which gave some reference for my just teen kids.
"The Shining" making an appearance was awesome but I would really ponder if anyone under 30 had seen that movie?
I even read the book for that... twice.
Ready Player One is a serious nostalgia dive for those who's main formulative years was in the 80's, I just barely snuck into the X-generation age group.
I really wanted to see the book's way the first key was found, it just seemed so silly.
It really does emphasize how much nostalgia really can get a hold of you.
The memory flashbacks were strobing through the book and the movie.
I am happy enough my kids are inquiring about "Gundam" now seeing how cool they are.
My youngest son did a lot of work to get his VR headset (and really cool hand controllers: Oculus Rift) and he is already living this dream a bit... now we need to get the "Omni-treadmill".
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