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I too would like some droid miniatures. The B!s are fine but some plastic B2s/Droidekas/Hailfire Droids would be awesome! To be honest when I read the title I was hoping it was referring to clone trooper legions. I was sadly disappointed.

Droids would be the easiest army to reincorporate from the Clone Wars Saga.

With the galaxy being so vast it is possible that some battalions of droids have survived without being found. Or was there a killswitch that was activated that shut them all down? Hell, someone could just reactivate them.

Edited to include: Reading into the Great Droid Uprising and could see a lot of potential in that. There is a movement within the galaxy that advocates for droid rights. This could be easily lumped into that third, miscellaneous, faction.

I loved my WotC Droid Army, used to play Droids versus my buddy's Empire all the time.

Honestly the Prequels are where it is at for Mass Battles. The Original Trilogy was more basic Skirmish, fighting in bunkers and inside of ships.

The big question, is will this cannibalize their Imperial Assault player base since they have been pushing that as a Skirmish Wargame rather than a Dungeon Crawwler that it is.

But is they do Prequel stuff for this game, I would Buy a ton of Droids, and Maybe Cones also, just for the Beetle Walkers they have.

Eumerin wrote:
Not really. The equipment "exists", and has within the setting for some time. West End Games did an excellent job of filling out the various details of the setting when they had the RPG license.

So, like I said, they made crap up because the Rebels don't have any ground forces in the movies outside of infantry and Snowspeeders. Just like Force Commander had to (look how many 'first appearance' notes are next to the vehicle types; often they are the only appearance as well), and Galactic Battlegrounds and Empire at War.

Even one of my fav SW games of all time, Rebellion (had a different name in the UK), had to invent most of the Rebel ship types because they had nothing to match the existing Empire units.

The Clone Wars at least give us two fleshed out armies.

On the other hand, you can make that a design feature... Imperials get big war machines, Rebels get all sorts of nasty guerrila-warfare tricks - mines, demo charges, hackers, infiltrators, defectors who can take over Imperial gear. Ewoks.

For the rebels they can take a page out of Rogue One and include units of aliens as Rebels. Boffins, Moncal, Wookies. Give them a patched together desperate look rather than a cohesive force. Since The RA isn't actually 1 army but a coalition of resistance forces.

 Digclaw wrote:
For the rebels they can take a page out of Rogue One and include units of aliens as Rebels. Boffins, Moncal, Wookies. Give them a patched together desperate look rather than a cohesive force. Since The RA isn't actually 1 army but a coalition of resistance forces.

Like Mantic's Deadzone Rebels.



The problem is that Star Wars suffers from his age and like Star Trek 80% of the most well known aliens are just humans of different colours with and small add-ons like Twi'leks, Mon'Calamari and Nautolans.

 Galas wrote:

 Digclaw wrote:
For the rebels they can take a page out of Rogue One and include units of aliens as Rebels. Boffins, Moncal, Wookies. Give them a patched together desperate look rather than a cohesive force. Since The RA isn't actually 1 army but a coalition of resistance forces.

Like Mantic's Deadzone Rebels.

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The problem is that Star Wars suffers from his age and like Star Trek 80% of the most well known aliens are just humans of different colours with and small add-ons like Twi'leks, Mon'Calamari and Nautolans.

There are also people in Fur Suits and Muppets (Some of which have been updated over the years with newer technologies)

Snipafist on the FFG forums has the email about this miniatures game:

I'm an FLGS employee (hobby job as I await the kiddo) and I'm looking at the email right now. Check your email inbox. You should be looking for an email titled "Alliance Midwest Daily Receiving 8/16/17." Most of the time, the solicitation emails from distributors are ignored by everyone because they're glorified spam, so I'm not surprised it snuck past most people.

Good luck, Runewars. (And Song of Ice and Fire, for that matter.)

Boardgamers have more money than miniature enthusiasts, and BGG'ers aren't complaining about the miniatures, so I don't expect much improvement in the mini's. Still, FFG *has* released better sculpts of characters (eg. Descent 2nd edition), so I also wouldn't be surprised if we had new versions of existing characters as better sculpts (how long ago was IA released, anyway?). (And, if the SWL game needs the usual tons of FFG non-miniature components and more miniatures to play a game (eg. "rank and file"), it'll make sense for it to be a new purchase, rather than a game you could use your IA miniatures for.)

There's some speculation on the FFG forums that FFG's adding this game line because it's a miniatures Star Wars product, while Hasbro has the rights for Star Wars boardgames.

Well, whatever. If the SWL starter set is a loss leader like the RW starter is, sure, I'll pick it up!

That makes no sense as FFG has several SW boardgames.

Clone Wars would be the better choice for a Star Wars Planetary Tabletop.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I too would like some droid miniatures. The B!s are fine but some plastic B2s/Droidekas/Hailfire Droids would be awesome! To be honest when I read the title I was hoping it was referring to clone trooper legions. I was sadly disappointed.

Empire still used Killer Droids / Droidekas after the Clone Wars.

Prequels sucked and basing a game on it will not do well.

Sining wrote:
That makes no sense as FFG has several SW boardgames.

Well, they need to leverage it.

I have a box of Descent skellies, orcs, etc.. Some print-and-play pdf or even a complete faction army book without miniatures, I might have given Runewars a try. Having to buy a bunch of FFG skeletons for the card board tax for an unnecessarily bloated system of tokens, upgrade cards, fancy special dice ... no thanks.


I probably have a reasonable size Stormtrooper army of Imperial Assault stuff too. AT-ST, heavy weapons, characters, all there. Let me play those (officially) with an armybook "Imperium" and some generic dice (D6, D8 whatever), no silly tokens, gear cards, dials, etc.. and I'm in (as, I am sure, many gamers in my area). Ask me to buy a bunch of overpriced restic stormtroopers again for gamerules chopped up and spread across a million cards .. I am out.

Oh, I'm very very sure there are going to be unique FFG cards again for this system

 Manchu wrote:
People want someone for storm troopers to fight, so they will buy rebels.

People want someone for clone troopers to fight, so they will buy droids.

All in all, the droids are cooler than the rebels.

I don't know. 40k players seem pretty content with 50% of games being loyalist Space Marines vs loyalist Space Marines.

I think that the secret to making a Clone Wars battle game work best would be to secure the rights to draw heavily from the animated series and slap that logo on the box instead of the prequel trilogy logos.

That series went a long way towards rehabilitating the PT setting, and managed to retroactively make Episode 3 better. (Not good, but better.)

Then we have the other problem.

Who or what is the third faction. Or fourth faction?

Yuuzhan Voong

Vong aren't (necessarily) a thing anymore, thank goodness, and in any case were not GCW-era, either. The third faction is simple enough, as it has been in both X-Wing and Imp Assault.

Non-canon.

And utterly rubbish. MAI SPEHSSHIP R MAD UV CORALS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.




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And it's that lack of factions which concerns me.

Whether they plunder the old EU or not, it's gonna be difficult to get me enthused.

Let's consider X-Wing. Business practices aside, I quite like that game. Plays well, and it's Star Wars. Win/Win. But then....for me, they rapidly ran out of iconic ships. I don't hate all the EU stuff, but I'm not at all keen on stuff like the K-Wing, which just doesn't look Star Wars. Or the unending TIE (s)L/ghtlydifferentfromthelast. Once they'd done the Phantom and Defender, I kind of lost interest.

For a full on wargame, they need creative juices and options up their sleeves. For me, their options there are very limited.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Then we have the other problem.

Who or what is the third faction. Or fourth faction?

Hutt cartels/pirates/criminal organizations and Mandalorians/mercs come to mind. Those are just off the top of my head from the original trilogy without delving into the EU (and I haven't watched the Rebels show so don't know what canon was added there potentially). Then there are the potential 40k style subarmies like imperial commandos, dark times jedi enclave, and all wookie freedom force. I don't personally feel that games need a dozen factions to be interesting as long as the existing ones are supported over time (see X-wing for instance but without the pokemon style gotcha collect them all upgrade card schtick).

If it were set between episodes 6 and 7, then I suppose you could have the Republilc, the remnant Empire, the First order, Resistance and potentially other factions who broke away from the collapsing Empire but didn't sign up to the Republic. That's all a stretch, though, is unlikely to get past Lucasfilm's licensing and still has the problem that you're just making up a load of stuff.

It's the difference between a setting for films/books/comics/TV - which are there to tell a story - and those for fantasy/SF wargames - wich are there to give an excuse for six different factions to fight all the others (and occasionally themselves).

If you set it before Episode 4, using material from Rebels would at least allow you to have two different sub-factions of the Rebel Alliance, like Infinity's Sectoral army lists (for example, the Lothal rebels seem to use A- and B-Wings rather than the Yavin Rebels' X- and Y-Wings).

Some "face the facts" points here:

- 28-32mm, so vehicles will be rare/powerful

- GCW era, so factions will be Empire, Rebellion, and Scum

- published by FFG, so there will be upgrade cards


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
the Lothal rebels seem to use A- and B-Wings

Completely disgusting.

 Manchu wrote:
Some "face the facts" points here:

- 28-32mm, so vehicles will be rare/powerful

- GCW era, so factions will be Empire, Rebellion, and Scum

- published by FFG, so there will be upgrade cards

And this has all been confirmed?

Eh? Not seen any B-Wings except for the single episode featuring the ridiculous prototype and its Mon Cal designer. They use A-Wings pinched from Kuat and salvaged Y-Wings in the Rebels show.

Starter set - Battle of Endor, Luke vs Vader, $90

Images from D6G Craig Gallant's twitter:

 TalonZahn wrote:
And this has all been confirmed?

Haha looks like it just was!


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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Let's consider X-Wing. Business practices aside, I quite like that game. Plays well, and it's Star Wars. Win/Win. But then....for me, they rapidly ran out of iconic ships. I don't hate all the EU stuff, but I'm not at all keen on stuff like the K-Wing, which just doesn't look Star Wars. Or the unending TIE (s)L/ghtlydifferentfromthelast. Once they'd done the Phantom and Defender, I kind of lost interest.

For a full on wargame, they need creative juices and options up their sleeves. For me, their options there are very limited.

But I think, like X-Wing, a lot of people will just be happy to play Star Wars, and not need new things coming out all the time?

You can continue to have fun with X-Wing vs. Tie Fighters, and with Armada etc. in the same way that Historicals gets by just fine with the contents of what happened, without having to create Greek Phalanxes that rode to battle on dinosaurs (although thinking about it...)

I think it's more of a problem for the companies that need to keep trying to make people buy stuff (which is perhaps why some of the X-Wing range seem rather strained), rather than the fans who just want to be in Star Wars, and enjoy watching tie-fighters crash into asteroids.

Manchu wrote:Some "face the facts" points here:

- 28-32mm, so vehicles will be rare/powerful

- GCW era, so factions will be Empire, Rebellion, and Scum

- published by FFG, so there will be upgrade cards

Brilliant, thanks for the update!

Already imagining Scum as the 'orks' of this game, in terms of conversion and alternative miniature possibilities!

The basic stormtroopers like the ones that come with Imperial Assault. Although they also have variants with special weapons

@Pacific - me saying there will be a third faction and that third faction will be scum is not a confirmed fact about the game, it is just a logical conclusion based on X-Wing and Imperial Assault