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From what I understand from the Trailers, the Punisher is a former member of some CIA Black Ops type unit. Something went bad, maybe the unit is corrupt, and an assassination attempt was made against his life. Now the Punisher is out for revenge against the people who betrayed them.
So yeah, the soldiers are probably villains of some sort.
Alpharius wrote: I think - in that setting - Karen's actions were...justified?
More or less.
Oh absolutely.
I dislike the scene because Wesley was a moron and died and I liked him (as a villain not in some he's-not-that-bad-really way).
Karen does do other morally dubious things though and in general I found her character slightly grating. She wasn't anywhere near as bad as Elektra though.
Back to the Punisher, I'm not too keen on him hosing down US soldiers but I guess they're going to be super-evil ones? I remember a Punisher comic in which shady government officials sent special forces (I think) after the Punisher and he couldn't kill them due to his code. He'd break arms but would never actually kill (or permanently cripple) them. It was pretty interesting and exposed a vulnerability for him.
They are likely corrupt, like his former CO was in Season 2 of DD or they are members of the PMC this universe's Jigsaw is supposed to run.
They have to be corrupt/bad apples, that's a condition of featuring any kind of US serviceperson as a villain if your show wants to rent out the military vehicles and get the military technical advisors.
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Back to Karen.... yeah.... her inclusion in the Defenders was necessary as a foil against Matt Murdock's intentions and to force him to make a *dramtic* decision about what he wanted from life.
Karen is interesting as she is a totally flawed person who tries to make up for it, but is really really bad at it.
I was upset when Leeland Owlsley left the show. That was a fun villain.
OT- Was Punisher and that Black Ops outfit from Jessica Jones omehow connected? You know, the one hyping up the soldiers?
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I've seen people say flat out lies on the internet that were less wrong than this statement. Only the greatest monster in history would type such a deceitful thing just to rile up the good people in this thread.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I've seen people say flat out lies on the internet that were less wrong than this statement. Only the greatest monster in history would type such a deceitful thing just to rile up the good people in this thread.
You have unmasked me. I am in fact, history's greatest monster.
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I can see why people maybe a bit squeamish about putting this out right now.
He worked as an anti-hero and a foil of DD in Season 2; but they will hve to work really hard to get past the nihilism in his own series. That seems like it could be a heavy lift.
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2017/10/19 16:35:38
Subject: Re:Netflix's The Punisher - Trailer 2 and release date Pg3.
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Ratius wrote: I only ever lightlly dabbled in the Punisher. In the originals his family was killed by gangs/cartels?
This seems to have a more him VS the government/shadow OPs angle. Correct?
As Alpharius said, yes, but they were already going to have to make at least some changes. In the comics he was a Vietnam veteran which would make him around 70.
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2017/10/21 14:42:21
Subject: Netflix's The Punisher Trailer #2 and Release Date Pg3
I think he is still a vietnam vet if I am not mistaken. New book called platoon is just his first tour as LT. in nam. Of course still love the Gerard Punisher.
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2017/10/27 17:14:06
Subject: Netflix's The Punisher Trailer #2 and Release Date Pg3
