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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Drewtavian wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Can we pledge $1 and upgrade during the pledge manager? It's just a bad time for me to pledge on a KS...

Just had it confirmed.

You can go in at £1 minimum to access the pledge manager but you will need to buy one of the core pledges to be able to buy any of the add-ons.

Hmmmm. Need to think about that. I've always been a fickle add ons only kind of guy.

Keep in mind one of the "Core Pledges" is literally Terrain or Add-ons only Pledge, so you can upgrade to that, just don't get free stretch goals (which honestly is what gives the main Core pledge so much value).

Pledge £45 or more ABOUT $60
Terrain or Add-ons only Pledge

Choose the Cyberpunk Terrain or any combination of add-ons starting from £45.

// No Free Stretch Goals with this pledge //

Shipping charged after the campaign ends, see Shipping section for full details.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Drewtavian wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Can we pledge $1 and upgrade during the pledge manager? It's just a bad time for me to pledge on a KS...

Just had it confirmed.

You can go in at £1 minimum to access the pledge manager but you will need to buy one of the core pledges to be able to buy any of the add-ons.

Hmmmm. Need to think about that. I've always been a fickle add ons only kind of guy.

No probs on that Bob, it's just the way they run their KS's they have to have a certain amount of core sales to allow the production of an support of the add-ons /cover some of the shipping costs as they sub part of them, them selves. As you can see from the ks everything so far unlocked is directly added into the main pledge and that's set to keep growing the more that things unlock.

An option that some folk choose to do is to find some one or a group to buy a pledge with, add in everything they need to reduce shipping costs and then sell /trade off the rest.

Battle Systems have released another mission add-on, and it's a thing of beauty. Great value too.

For the princely sum of just £8, you can get Zed's Bar, a set of extra terrain (core set needed of course) to run the included mission "Shootout at Zed's"

Here's what you get :-



and here's how you'd use it in game :-



More images and information at the update page :-
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/core-space/posts/2054772

The colour of the strut going into and matching the bar is a gorgeous touch. That's a great add on.

Off to add pennies...

I'm liking the bar too.

Had to add for it.

Hoping we get some terrain stretches eventually, but I do like we've got a bit of variety in terms of figures so far.

a productive weekend has brought up another 2 stretchgoals, and we're well on the way to a third, so both Marlowe and Faye are now unlocked and next up will be MAC.



Then we'll be chasing the huge Juggernaught - for when the Galactic Corps absolutely want a hammer to crack a nut. This is one tough guy.



In the meantime, Battle Systems released an interesting insight into the design and story behind some of their characters, including some examples of early sketches from designer and owner of Battle Systems, Colin Young.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/core-space/posts/2055274

Hopefully this is exactly the sort of thing we'll see in the rulebook to add background and story to the game, resulting in a much more interesting gaming experience.

Update #13

Nov 27 2017

TITAN!!!
THE TITAN ACCORD

The Galactic Corps are trying to route the Purge from the Space Station Titan but they need your help! The traders have agreed to a temporary truce with each other to help the Corps to fight a common enemy.

The Purge are interested in a strange alien infestation and are in no mood to leave!

Hi, guys, today we're going to tell you about our new Titan Pledge. It's basically a big pledge that comes with it's own mission and a whopping discount. But don't mind me, here's Colin to tell you all about it:


.

In short the Titan Pledge consists of:

1 x Boxed game
1 x Cyberpunk Terrain
1 x Add-on K - OUTBREAK!
1 x Add-on L - Shootout at Zed's!
1 x The Titan Accord Mission
All FREE stretch goals
Separately the components on the Kickstarter would cost £145 (with an RRP of £197) but the Titan Pledge has a crazy discount and is priced at £120. No early bird needed here either... it's already a silly deal If you were to buy the components separately in retail you would spend an extra £77!

The Titan Pledge will be available very shortly after this update is posted. This saving is a Kickstarter only offer and won't be available in our web shop or retail later!

Cheers

Titan Terrain size -

well we blew through two more stretch goals overnight, meaning that both the Juggernaught and another trader, Hoskins, have been added to the orange banner of lovely free stuff we get as a stretch goal bonus with every core set pledged for.



That brings the total number of minis you'd get if you were to pledge for a core set to 34, 26 of which are different sculpts.

Next up are two stretch goals offering more cardstock terrain in the guise of extra walls.







there's a good video with Colin from Battle Systems talking about the new Titan pledge and how the mission designed for it will work. it gives a great insight into the thinking behind the project, and is well worth a watch by anyone new to Battle Systems or considering jumping in on the Core Space KS.

Both the terrain stretchgoals got knocked down overnight. That's an additional 6 more walls - 2 feet of goodness, added to the free extra stuff that will come with every core set purchased in the KS.

Next up, we've got Thomen, another trader and a crew member alongside the already unlocked Hoskins. We're already close to unlocking him.

Well we got Thomen, and then we got a bunch more terrain, and now we're working towards unlocking Pi.

Beasts of War have released a second "Let's Play" video of Justin playing a game of Core Space with Colin from Battle Systems.

Well we unlocked Pi, and then we unlocked the stretchgoal after that which gave us some crates and furniture, so the big orange banner of awesomeness (ie all the extra stuff that comes free to KS backers) now looks like this.



Here's the 3D Render of Pi



Then we also added a bunch of consoles



Next up will be Captain Teelac



and some extra signage to make the terrain layouts look oh so cool



The value in this KS just keeps on rising - there will be more to come as BS have confirmed at least 2 more traders.

and there's a new purchasable add-on with a couple of civilians and a security detail.

Apologies if this is already asked/answered, but what material are these minis to be made of?

Thanks!

it's described as a "high quality PVC plastic".

Hmmm...

Depends on who is making this "High Quality PVC Plastic" - I believe that is actually possible, from some manufacturers!

They mentioned who made it, a long time ago, and I've totally forgotten now.

I know it assuaged my worries at the time, and they were pretty specific.

...that's not really helpful or specific though, is it?

I like the new add on, but it doesn't feel like 16 pounds worth of an add on. Maybe with some extra cardboard bits thrown in.

Looking through the stretch goals, I'm surprised we haven't seen any new event cards show up. Those are easy to make/ cheap to produce, and there's only 15 in the box so far.

Don't get me wrong though- I'd much prefer new minis or terrain...

if they have mentioned it, then I can't find where.

I'm in a position to know which company they are using (or at least which company they were planning to use a few months ago, and I don't believe they'll have changed), but sadly not at liberty to divulge the info (I have asked, waiting for a response).

I can say though that when looking at that company's other minis, I've personally held some and found them to be top notch, and I've searched and can't find a bad review of them either. I'd say (imho) that they are way better than Mantic or CMoN for example.

and knowing Colin and Wayne of Battle Systems as I do, I can definitely say they'd both be mortified if they put out a substandard product. They are as much in the business for their love of gaming as they are to feed the kids and as such, they want to put out a quality product as much as we want to receive one.

I can't find it now either. That's really weird.

Nice to see more event cards showing up, in addition to all the other nice loot!

wonder if it means whatever it was is no longer true?

this is what Colin said about the minis manufacturer.

Its a well known factory thats made game miniatures for many of the very top games... we are 95% sure we are using them. We have lots of samples both from the factory, and other companies that use them. The quality is awesome and they know exactly what is needed for miniatures. They have handled and still are handling miniature projects for some of the very best game out there and currently in development from big companies both on and off of KS. Their communication is also excellent too. Our other factory we use for the Terrain is still being used of course and they will be working together to pack the perfect boxed game D

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In another interesting update tonight, Battle Systems have given us some more insight into how the Purge were designed and what it is that they do (without giving away too much as to why they do it - oh boy do these guys like to keep the story full of suspense)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/core-space/posts/2063403

With 10 days to go, this project just keeps on growing. Here's what a standard core pledge would get you today.

and then there are two more additions to the freebies, just waiting to be unlocked. In addition Battle Systems has made the crew of the Poseidon purchasable as an add-on.

STretchgoal 19 has been unlocked, and Battle Systems have announced Stretchgoal 21 as another named character, Captain Sondar.



on top of that they've announced another minis pack as an add-on - gangers and guards.



and also a further stretchgoal that's linked to social media sharing rather than raw fund raising. We're already 2/3 of the way to unlocking it.

So both stretchgoals 20 and SM1 (Evangaline) are now unlocked. It's going to be rude not to paint Evangeline in a yellow suit with black trim. I might have to get 2 !

We're fast approaching unlocking Captain Sondar

and then after that we have another crew member, Hunter, to unlock.

I really like the look of the figures and love their terrain, but, I just can't get into the gameplay on the BoW vid. Watched a few minutes a couple of days ago, but ended up losing interest and watched This Morning instead... The BoW fella looked totally uninspired by the game and the pacing lacked something :( Any ideas if there are similar games out there that can be used as a comparison?

I wouldn't entirely disagree with you that the first BoW video was a little dull to watch. I think both players suffered from analysis paralysis, and the level of umming and ahhing was off the scale. Now in fairness, Colin from Battle Systems was trying to explain his though processes and the game as he went along, and while I don't know how Justin usually plays games, he was self evidently new to this one. It's also a game with a twist - the concept that diving in and not trying to take out your opponent but rather potentially work together, barter etc, is a relatively unusual one for games of this type, so I think it just took a while for things to settle down.

I can tell you though, as one of the guys who attended the Battle Systems games day and played the game along with 8 others, all on the same table at the same time, that that wasn't our experience. We definitely played it quicker even with a lot of chat and discussion and debate as to how things worked, and I feel that after an initial play through, we'd have got considerably quicker still.

The game has a strong narrative element which does lend itself to discussion and debate during play, which in turn will slow things down. I'd say it works well for an evening of entertainment, and over the course of a multi mission campaign, will rally bring tjhe story to life, but there may be an argument for self imposing some sort of timer during game play - I've found with other games, that even having a clock on the table, without setting any hard time limits, that can hurry things along as people become aware of the time.

So in short, I don't think the BoW video was entirely representative in terms of pacing. Moves were massively over analysed and decisions that should have taken 10 seconds to resolve, took minutes. In that respect I agree with you, but I don't think it was entirely the fault of the game.

There is a second BoW Let's Play video that I've not watched, but based on its length, I'd suggest might be a better experience. I did hear that there might be a third being released as well, but I can't find it yet.

Thanks for the answer. I'm hoping that they have this running as a demo game at Salute next year - would be interested to have a go and see it in the flesh. Watching games is normally not as much fun as laying them after all. After my AvP experience i'm very wary of KS (and I know that Battle Systems have been very good with their previous KSs, but once bitten...)

Yeah, I rode the AvP train as well, and only just got my final bits and bobs just a couple of weeks ago (after many many emails)

Ironically I backed Battle Systems' first KS, their original variant of sci-fi, specifically so I had some cool terrain to play AvP on. They've delivered 4 kickstarters pretty much on time over the 4 years since, while I still no many who are waiting for Prodos/Archon to pull their fingers out.

Battle Systems are properly organised when it comes to delivering their terrain now. I'd accept that if anything might make them come unstuck, it's adding minis and other non cardstock parts to the mix, but I have faith that they'll successfully overcome whatever issues they encounter and do us proud once again. I know if they do run into problems and end up late they won't run to ground and go silent on us - that's not their style (and I know where they live !)

and yes I'm sure they'll be showing off Core Space at Salute and UK Expo, albeit it will still be their pr-production version I would think for most components.

Stretchgoal 22 is now unlocked, giving Hunter to all backers.

Here's how the orange banner of goodies looks like now :-



Then we have Chit - another trader, and a crew member for Captain Sondar - he's just been unlocked as I type


the next stretchgoal will be for yet another trader - Satiene

When unlocked she'll also be free to all backers, bringing the total number of minis per core set to 42, a staggering 35 of which are unique.

and finally there's a new add-on - a whole ship's crew plus 2 already released civvies packs, plus an additional mission and 5 more event cards in one mega deal.

Satienne is unlocked.

Next up we have the final 2 traders from the original ships - first the Black Maria's speculator, Beck



and then the Ion Hope's tech, Tirgarde