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Actually JP 1 is outright classified as a horror. All the others are action flicks.

But i do hope they keep with the weapon idea to a certain extent. As i said earlier, it will become the family friendly version of alien and i am alright with that.

 Ouze wrote:
Weaponized dinosaurs is such a dumb, dumb idea I sure hope they don't keep running with it. I am sure they will, though.

To be fair, so is building a theme park full of dinosaurs a decade or so after several incidents of islands full of dinosaurs eating a whole bunch of people. JP jumped way over 'dumb' when they decided that another island with even more dinosaurs on it would be a good idea. So bring on more dumbness, I say!

To be fair weapon or entertainment - where else are you going to get the finances for your dinosaur project from? War weapons isn't so daft when you consider how much technology we use today is funded by or partly by the military. Heck WW2, for all its horrors, was a massive revolution in technology and technology investment and application.

In modern days entertainment is also a massive money earner. So it stands to reason that entertainment and war would be two key big investment opportunities.


Also don't forget the first island only failed because of a hacker; if the power hadn't been cut totally from the island it would have worked; meanwhile the other two films were more about bringing and working with the animals outside of containment.

So really the only dinosaur sparked escape was in the 4th film with a genetically enhanced dino. So technically speaking the dinosaurs wereo nly the problem once out of four times.
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Of course the next evolution of the series is likely going to be a second or even several companies starting up their own breeding and modification programs. The DNA and technology is in the JP world so it stands to reason that other companies might not be too far behind.

And lets face it a dinosaur park - if you run one of those with real dinosaurs you are going to be earning vast amounts very easily.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair weapon or entertainment - where else are you going to get the finances for your dinosaur project from? War weapons isn't so daft when you consider how much technology we use today is funded by or partly by the military. Heck WW2, for all its horrors, was a massive revolution in technology and technology investment and application.

This always grinds my gears a little tbh. There is no "military funding", there is public funding being spent by military officials. There's zero reason we need to be allowing the military to act as gatekeepers deciding which things are funded by public cash, and zero reason to have any kind of gratitude or similar sentiment towards them for deigning to pass on a tiny, tiny fraction of the benefit of all the tax money they hoover up.

But yeah, weaponised genetically-enhanced dinosaurs is exactly the kind of willy-waving vanity project I can see the military engaging in at the public's expense.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Actually JP 1 is outright classified as a horror.

No, it isn't. I sure wish it was, though. Could you imagine a rated R dino horror movie (that wasn't a low budget, bad CGI garbage Scyfy thing)?

 Paradigm wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Weaponized dinosaurs is such a dumb, dumb idea I sure hope they don't keep running with it. I am sure they will, though.

To be fair, so is building a theme park full of dinosaurs a decade or so after several incidents of islands full of dinosaurs eating a whole bunch of people. JP jumped way over 'dumb' when they decided that another island with even more dinosaurs on it would be a good idea. So bring on more dumbness, I say!

Jurassic World (in the new film) had been operating for years without major incident - its all about risk versus reward.

We have all seen the films but who here wouldn't go if they made a real one?

 Ouze wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Actually JP 1 is outright classified as a horror.

No, it isn't. I sure wish it was, though. Could you imagine a rated R dino horror movie (that wasn't a low budget, bad CGI garbage Scyfy thing)?

I actually have recurring nightmares on exactly that... survival horror fleeing dinos.

I'd watch the gak out of rated R horror dino movie.

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Actually JP 1 is outright classified as a horror.

No, it isn't. I sure wish it was, though. Could you imagine a rated R dino horror movie (that wasn't a low budget, bad CGI garbage Scyfy thing)?

I actually have recurring nightmares on exactly that... survival horror fleeing dinos.

I'd watch the gak out of rated R horror dino movie.

First Dino Crisis computer game did it well.

Bringing the thread back as the movie is now out!

In short, it's good. I think on balance I just prefer the last one, but Fallen Kingdom really does deliver everything it promises to. The spectacle is certainly there, the action is intense, it's genuinely rather unnerving at times with some good jumpscares/sustained spookiness and the plot is engaging, with a couple of genuine emotional beats among the dino rampages, volcanoes and super-raptors.

Well worth a watch if you ask me.

Saw the trailer before Solo. Retooling the majestic John Williams theme into a horror movie soundtrack was like nails on a chalkboard.

Off the top of my head, that version of the theme isn't actually in the film, or if it is, it's only over the title screen.

The score on the whole is actually pretty damn good, between these and Rogue One Michael Giacchino is doing a solid job of continuing the legacy of Williams' work while adding his own flair to proceedings.

i didn't care for Giacchino's work on R1 (which I understand was very rushed). His scores for JJ's Star Trek movies have some OK moments, however (although I dislike the movies).

It was ... OK. Some fun set pieces, but the plot stringing them together was rather nonsensical. I enjoyed it, but out of all five, I'd just as soon watch the first one again.

Saw it and it was basically a remake of "Lost World" in the same vein as "Jurassic World" was a remake of "Jurassic Park". Plot didn't make much sense, but that is common with nearly all JP movies. And the premises behind the plot are incredibly stupid (dinosaurs weaponized and being invasive species).
The movie was awfully recycled, even by Hollywood franchise standards. There wasn't a scene, plot twist or concept or even a character which was in any way original. It has been all seen before, most multiple times. (Well I guess the brachiosaurus scene was kinda new and even bit touching, credit for that). But seriously you could make a drinking game out of that, but it would be unwise to play as one would die of alcohol poisoning long before the movie is over.

If you just looked it as a standalone movie, never seen any of the other JP movies, I guess it would rate as **1/2 or even ***. However as a part of JP franchise, point where it became parody of itself is now long past, and rated such it is one star movie, at best.

Does one of the more decent characters, who is in no way responsible for any of the suffering, die a horrible death?

Went to see it on release and I thought it was a good couple hrs spent. Really enjoyed it too be fair, roll on the 3rd film.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does one of the more decent characters, who is in no way responsible for any of the suffering, die a horrible death?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does one of the more decent characters, who is in no way responsible for any of the suffering, die a horrible death?

Well, there's the hapless goons right at the beginning. They didn't seem to be hurting anyone ...

Other than that, yeah, everyone who dies is a wrong 'un. Except for that brachiosaurus, I suppose.

No nannies or well-meaning interns terrorized for lulz, then? Maybe I'll give it a shot.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
No nannies or well-meaning interns terrorized for lulz, then? Maybe I'll give it a shot.

I was definitely hoping for some powerless intern who didn't really do anything to deserve it to suffer a lengthy and unwarranted death, far and away the most brutal of the entire series. I guess I'll see it anyway but disappointed already

Well, there are those unfortunate surfers who are about to get eaten by the mosasaurus ...

Backfire wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does one of the more decent characters, who is in no way responsible for any of the suffering, die a horrible death?

Spoiler:

Not really, I think everyone who is eaten is a bad guy.

I had to double check the release date after seeing the title - we've still got 3 days to go here in the US! I can't wait

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Well, there are those unfortunate surfers who are about to get eaten by the mosasaurus ...

But that was Huntington Beach, so they were all nazis. It's okay to eat Nazis, right?

 RiTides wrote:
I had to double check the release date after seeing the title - we've still got 3 days to go here in the US! I can't wait

Yeah I plan on catching this on Thursday. Our of all the movies coming out this year this is one of the ones I am the most excited about despite the fact from the trailers, it doesn't look very good, and I am pretty sure they are going to double down on that inane "dinosaurs as biological weapons" storyline.

But it's so, so hard to not like a movie where dinosaurs are killing people, ultimately. Just a single shot of a Velociraptor running through a jungle and jumping onto a person from 15 feet away apparently will wipe away a lot of cinematic sins for me.

Well, saw it tonight.

Thought the first half was pretty good.

I didn't hate it but it had a pretty bad second half.

 Ouze wrote:
I didn't hate it but it had a pretty bad second half.

That is what I have been hearing. You can see they put a ton of money into the CGI and so it is pretty but the story peters out with the first half being enjoyable enough and the last half being painfully stupid.

 Ouze wrote:
Well, saw it tonight.

Thought the first half was pretty good.

Spoiler:

The island action was OK. I did think it a bit lame that you knew great white hunter bro was going to be a bad guy literally within 2 seconds of seeing him, just like Avatar. Still, the actual volcano sequences were terrific. the sequence where they were trapped inside the bunker with an Allosaurus (I think) were great.

The whole second half of the movie was pretty damn dumb though. Beyond the "dinosaurs as weapons" trope which is honestly just stupid AF, they had to introduce such cheesy, over the top evildoers like a Russian arms dealer. A little on the nose, don't you think

I thought the whole point of the super raptor was it was supposed to latch onto Blue and be subservient? That idea seems to have been dropped for no reason. I also thought it was really original how Blue came to the rescue again, just like the last one, and how they essentially recreated the end of Jurassic Park for the Sega Genesis.

I didn't hate it but it had a pretty bad second half.

The first one was just the prototype. Blue was intended to mother and teach the next one they made.

Oh, so not that one, but the one after? OK, that makes sense.