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2006/11/23 11:14:21
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fixture of Dakka
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ahhhh cool. Just lookign at those linkages makes me think I should be doing a Kin and Dyn analysis :p Great work dude! I want more pics of your other projects
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2006/11/23 22:43:08
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Alas, the sad truth is that the wheels can´t really move. When you build complex machinery on the go rather than from plans and calculations, it might turn out that certain parts can´t actually pass other parts during movement... Then there´s also the fact that stuff built from foam core and plasticard has slightly broader tolerances than machined metal. So yeah, the wheels can be wiggled back and forth a bit and do move together but it doesn´t really work. On top of that there would be the problem of paint being scraped off.
Right now I´m working on finally getting some pipes, panels, railing and of course skulls on the thing.
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2006/11/28 01:20:27
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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A cheap O gauge locomotive would surely be the ideal starting point. In Europe Lima used to do fairly basic O gauge locomotives and rolling stock and these are found easily enough on Ebay. Keep the chassis remove the body (so you can sell it intact if need be) and scrathbuild yourself a new body. The track alone looks great on the tabletop ? I based mine in two foot lengths on MDF and ballasted it for the permanent way. A Leman Russ fits nicely on an O gauge wagon bed. That is an interesting load.
Somewhat cheaper is on30. Basically 1/48th scale narrow gauge ? or O gauge scale on HO scale track. A cheap HO or better yet an OO/HO locomotive can be found and adapted. If you do not need a runner Dapol and Revell both do locomotive kits. I quite fancy the 2-10-0 BR Evening Star for this.
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2006/11/28 02:45:29
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Whoa. I was just piecing through this when I came across the chaos terminator WIP. Beastmen heads as iconography. Nice! I'm going to have to nick that.
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2006/11/28 05:27:22
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@klingsor: Yeah, I thought about something like when I started the project. I saw a Mega Bloks steam engine set that probably would have worked quite well but then I decided it would be more fun to build it completly from scratch. Also the issue with paint scraping off moving parts would still be there, the original coloring would hardly work for the 40K setting. @tinfoil: Be my guest. Funny thing, I actually couldn´t get around to work on that side project either while I had paused construction of the engine, he´s still unfinished. But now onto the main event. Let me impart some modeling wisdom: It´s a lot easier to build stuff once you stop worrying wether any of it would make practical sense in reality.
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2006/11/28 08:52:05
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looks really great right now. Obviously the 3 armour plates will have to be positioned better once you get it all done, but I'm assuming they're just held on with tack for the time being. Any chance you plan on magetising them to make them easily removable? Do you plan to make the eagle more ornate? I'd also like to see some cool signage embossed on the train in certain places (obviously the vast majority would be painted on). Do you plan on adding some adeptus mechanicus symbols or do you feel it would've been made privately? I wouldn't go too overboard with the skulls and eagles if only because it's not a military train (as far as I remember).
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2006/11/28 18:47:40
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Magnets would in fact be a good idea. I´ll try to give the eagle a bit more depth but overall it will remain rather sleek. Adeptus Mechanicus symbols are a must. An obvious choice would be to attach the big one from the Manufactorum sprue to the front of the boiler, but I actually prefer the plain, utilitarian look. Which is of course slightly at odds with the "cathedral on wheels" style one might expect from the Imperium. I´ll just see that I get the other side of the engine up to this point as well and then worry about further decoration.
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2006/12/24 02:25:31
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2006/12/24 11:39:55
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Feldwebel
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That looks amazing, can`t wait to see the finished product
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2006/12/25 12:09:54
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looks fantastic as always. How about a stunty mutant working the furnace? Nothing too mutated, just have them be stunted in growth so they look dwarfish (not fantasy dwarf of course). Fits in with the background and would take up slightly less space in the cabin thus allowing more of the details to show.
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2007/01/07 03:51:58
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2007/01/07 04:22:04
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Posted By ESDK on 11/28/2006 10:27 AM @klingsor: Yeah, I thought about something like when I started the project. I saw a Mega Bloks steam engine set that probably would have worked quite well but then I decided it would be more fun to build it completly from scratch. Also the issue with paint scraping off moving parts would still be there, the original coloring would hardly work for the 40K setting.
I don't see how this applies to a chassis
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2007/01/07 08:55:27
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It doesn´t, I was refering to the pistons, pushrods etc.
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2007/01/07 16:58:54
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Not to be picky.... Actually, trying to be helpful. The last minute is the WORST time to discover a problem, after all... In this picture: I noticed that there is still a mold line showing on the grey exhaust piece from the (I think) Cities of Death bit on the right hand side (as you look at it in the image). Eric <edit> There also appears to be some on the other one, as seen in this pic:
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2007/01/07 20:14:45
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yes, the first one has a slight miscast that I should putty/sand over but the on the second one it´s a trick of the lighting.
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2007/01/09 22:26:46
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hi ESDK this is amazing and I've really enjoyed following the progress of this project. I had a question about the magnetic sheets that you've cut and put on the door hatches and armour plates. Where did you get these and how did you attach them to the plastic? By super glue or the sticky backing that comes on some companies magnetic sheets? I'm looking to add magnetic strips to the doors on my forgeworld tanks so I can easily remove the armour sections to see the interior detial. For example on the Armageddon pattern basilik i just ordered theres a huge back door that reveals a really nice detailed interior. I don't want to just leave the door open and glue it down. I'd really like to magnetise it. I'm planning to do the same to the Shadowsword that I'm getting so i can remove the sections but still keep them firmly in place. How strong do you find that the magnetic strips are? Thanks
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2007/01/09 22:49:38
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Finding this thread made my day! Simply fantastic again! I really hope you take this to a GD
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2007/01/10 06:50:37
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks guys, I´ll try to finish it rather "soon-ish", though I´m currently beset by both work demands and the siren call of computer games. Concerning your question Gundammecha, I picked them up from a local arts and crafts store but for example this site: http://www.magnetsource.com/Consumer%20Pages/Sheeting.html seems to offer an equivalent product. They are really quite strong, I can in fact (carefully though) pick up the driver´s cabin by the magnetized roof and that´s only held in place by one maybe 8mm*40mm strip. The adhesive side works fine if you attach them to a level, clean surface but if you use them on something curved or if you had to reposition them once or twice, it would be better to support them with a little super glue dabbed to the sides. The one problem I encountered is with their thickness. The sheet is about 2mm thick and since I used two strips for every connection it adds up to a noticeable spacer. You could however exchange one strip of sheet for some of those round neodyme magnet which are amazingly strong and easier to hide. Looking at the pictures at Forgeworld, I think at worst you´ll have to add additional support columns for the magnetic sheet strips, like I did in the drivers cabin. Apart from that I think this would work just fine.
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2007/01/10 07:05:33
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fixture of Dakka
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She's coming together fantastically. Any chance you plan on doing some work on the edges where the plates meet on the cabin structure? I'd say crude welds or some nice rivet action would look great. As far as the detailing goes, and brass etch plans?
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2007/01/10 08:39:03
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mhm, yeah some rivets might be in order. I thought about adding some mesh I still have lying around but no appropriate place for it jumped out at me. Maybe as a heat shroud somewhere. Custom etching stuff is still a bit beyond my technical capabilities.
The next step beyond general detailing will be the bulkhead at the back of the cabin and the already mentioned servitor.
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2007/01/10 12:40:29
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well I'm psyched to see the next set of improvements
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2007/01/10 17:11:48
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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not sure if anyone notified you ESDK...but your out of your gourd. thought you should know.
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2007/01/10 22:17:07
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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They say madness runs in our family... heh... Some even call me mad... And why..? Becauase I dared to dream of my own race of atomic monsters..!? Atomic supermen with octagonal-shaped bodies that suck blood out of you...
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2007/01/11 02:02:21
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hi ESDK Thanks for the tips. I've just ordered a whole load of magnetic supplies from online stores. I've got the flexible magnetic sheets and flexible steel sheets, and the little mini circular magnets, 2 different sizes. When they arrive I think I'll play around with it a bit and see which gives the nicest result without spacing the panels out enough. When work starts on my Kreig Shadowsword I'll post a WIP.
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2007/02/04 04:22:10
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2007/02/04 04:48:09
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Lethal Lhamean
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Maybe you could give the servitor a train drivers hat?
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2007/02/04 05:50:09
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only "The little train that could".
Amazing project. I was very skeptical at first months ago when you started this thread. i figured you would drop it.
Glad to see I was wrong and you stuck with it. I am not a train fanactic, but this is undoubtedly cool.
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2007/02/04 06:11:56
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Fresh-Faced New User
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You know you could actually have baught a large guage model train from a shop... there are 6 different guages i think, from 00 which is very small scale to H which is freakin huge.
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2007/02/04 07:43:39
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Plastictrees
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Posted By Sepherus on 02/04/2007 11:11 AM You know you could actually have baught a large guage model train from a shop... there are 6 different guages i think, from 00 which is very small scale to H which is freakin huge.
Yes, but engines in that size are ridiculously expensive and here we get to see ESDK put to use those fab modeling skills in creating something unique and completely Warhammer 40,000 instead of some steam engine with GW bits tacked on. ESDK: Great work as usual. However, I do hope you add more greeblie details to your engine servitor, be it more wires, tubes, hydraulics and stuff (or even sculpted on with GS). Great job and thanks for keeping us posted, I look forward to seeing the finished product.
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2007/02/04 17:26:57
Subject: RE: WIP Train Engine
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Train driver´s hat, heh, I´ll consider it Yeah, the servitor will get some more details. An Adeptus Mechanicus icon obviously, some more wires and tubes and maybe a hydraulic harness for his arms.
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