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I would if I played this game.
I will not, because I don't like the models.
I will not, out of principle - it is a bad idea to encourage companies to charge so much for so few models.
I will not buy this set, because it is too expensive.

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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






Lord-Ordinator Epic Facial Hair is one of my favorite Stormcast models so far. I could see him getting far more popular if and when GW decides to add some golden war machines to the army.

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Zingraff wrote:Turns out you can order them individually as well, so my mistake.

However, the set doesn't make any sense because you're not saving any money buying the bundle, with each character costing $35 each.


Kirby logic is still prevalent at GW.

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Gathering the Informations.

 EnTyme wrote:
Lord-Ordinator Epic Facial Hair is one of my favorite Stormcast models so far. I could see him getting far more popular if and when GW decides to add some golden war machines to the army.

It has nothing to do with his rules.

It's that I feel the model doesn't match the fluff. They're scryers and engineers/overseers for work teams but the guy just looks like any old Empire Warpriest just biggerized.

I feel that the Lord-Castellant or Lord-Veritant do better jobs of looking like the fluff for the "warrior-mystics".

If he came with a single massive two handed hammer that looked like it could be a construction tool as well as a weapon of war, if he was standing a bit more at ease and looked like he could be conversing with a Duardin and Freeguild Engineer while they discuss the emplacement of static defenses...

It would be an autobuy for me, and possibly start me into a new faction.
   
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Dallas, TX

Before I looked at the link, I thought maybe it depends on the size of the models, I mean 4 IK is well worth 140, but 4 standard infantry size/ termie heroes size does not equate 35 a piece, not in 2018, the inflation hasn’t got there yet. My top offer would be in the 22.50 range per detailed infantry hero figure.
   
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Leavenworth, KS

That is just crazy. Good on people that want to buy them, but those are definitely outside my price range, and even if they weren't I wouldn't buy them. I value my hard-earned money more than that!

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Engaged in Villainy

I play death, but in all honesty, I'm not that impressed with the knight of shrouds - I'm pretty sure I could kitbash something similar.
Start with a cairn wraith, add a helmet and a big sword, done.
(Although, having checked, it seems the cairn wraith is no longer sold separately on the GW store... conspiracy theory time!)

I do like the goblin, but not enough to buy him just to paint.

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I will buy the Shaman because I think he is a fantastic character model, but if you are gaming on a budget don’t buy new stuff.
Rountree said in a recent financial report that the plan going forward is to keep the back catalogue at the same price. To balance this the price of new models will keep increasing.

So the real question is, would you rather have these minis be £20 and keep the cairnwraith and the like at £9 or have these minis at £15 each but make the old minis £12?
   
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Zealous Shaolin




England

I really want that Wraith, just as a collector's piece, but I can't justify spending £20 on an infantry-size model.

I particularly like the Warrior Queen and Goblin Shaman, too, just a shame I can't realistically budget for them.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
Lord-Ordinator Epic Facial Hair is one of my favorite Stormcast models so far. I could see him getting far more popular if and when GW decides to add some golden war machines to the army.

It has nothing to do with his rules.

It's that I feel the model doesn't match the fluff. They're scryers and engineers/overseers for work teams but the guy just looks like any old Empire Warpriest just biggerized.

I feel that the Lord-Castellant or Lord-Veritant do better jobs of looking like the fluff for the "warrior-mystics".

If he came with a single massive two handed hammer that looked like it could be a construction tool as well as a weapon of war, if he was standing a bit more at ease and looked like he could be conversing with a Duardin and Freeguild Engineer while they discuss the emplacement of static defenses...

It would be an autobuy for me, and possibly start me into a new faction.


I do agree that the pose could be less "warrior" and more "mystic", but I overall like the model. If I collected Stormcasts, I'd be picking him up, too, but my only Order army is Sylvaneth.

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I will get the order one for my artillery and airships.
I may eventually get Destruction and Death too.
35 dollars is a little pricey but they are good looking solo models which you will only need one of ever, so I do not see the huge problem.
   
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Yarg

140 no discounts for all 4? no thanks

i will just buy the ones i want over time.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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The price is a good enough reason not to set another precedent by buying these miniatures for outrageous prices.

Aside from that, the goblin is terribly cluttered - a problem that applies to much of the AoS range, the Shrouded Knight is rather mediocre and I'm sure any talented hobbyist could kitbash something similar/better in no time and the Stormcast is well... a Stormcast.

The Warqueen is the only thing that is remotely tempting for me in this release, but not tempting enough to fork over 25 bucks. For that kind of money you can get a limited metal Archaon on foot or comparable miniatures from other factions on eBay.

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Cerlin wrote:
I will get the order one for my artillery and airships.
I may eventually get Destruction and Death too.
35 dollars is a little pricey but they are good looking solo models which you will only need one of ever, so I do not see the huge problem.


Exactly the same for me.

The bundle is too much but who's really gonna need all four heroes at once?

Solo price is fine and taking your time to buy the rest is the best way to go as you can also build up the other armies if you want and there's always the possibility of deals coming out for them like being apart of battleforce boxes or even WHQ packs.
   
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your mind

As of now, the poll is very heavily weighted in the negative,
but surprisingly 13 have responded that yes, they will buy this bundle.

As expected - just checking if it is the world that is insane, GW or just me.
I guess it is GW after all.
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Well you kinda skewed the poll that way for the negative.

Options like "no, I just want a few of them", "yes, just not all at once" or "yes, from retailers and a discount" would've been nice.

Making it basically yes or no for a expensive bundle that very few people besides big collectors or people with four different armies would say yes to was an obvious result. (And as was pointed out you posting it in the 40k section was just you really wanting a negative result if the options weren't obvious enough)

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Cerlin wrote:
I will get the order one for my artillery and airships.
I may eventually get Destruction and Death too.
35 dollars is a little pricey but they are good looking solo models which you will only need one of ever, so I do not see the huge problem.


I wouldn't say that. I can think of two conversions on the spot that I'd base on the queen, along with having one stock version of her. If I put thought into it, GW could sell me some more.

I'm through my fifth or sixth Dark Elf Sorceress (without ever assembling her as an actual Dark Elf Sorceress...) because she's such a nice base model and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

At the price GW asks for the harbingers, nothing of that sort will happen with the queen.

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Gathering the Informations.

 jeff white wrote:
As of now, the poll is very heavily weighted in the negative,
but surprisingly 13 have responded that yes, they will buy this bundle.

Probably because you didn't have an option that was "I will buy the one that I want".

As expected - just checking if it is the world that is insane, GW or just me.
I guess it is GW after all.
Oddly comforting, to find that the sun rises in the East.

Yeah..no. It's just an exceedingly negative poll.


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 Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
I play death, but in all honesty, I'm not that impressed with the knight of shrouds - I'm pretty sure I could kitbash something similar.
Start with a cairn wraith, add a helmet and a big sword, done.
(Although, having checked, it seems the cairn wraith is no longer sold separately on the GW store... conspiracy theory time!)

I do like the goblin, but not enough to buy him just to paint.

The Cairn Wraith had an integrated base, likely that's why he has been "no longer available" for quite some time. The same thing happened with the Dark Elf Assassin--to the point where he's now "Direct Only" and you damned well better set an email alert on him if you really want one.

If you really want a Cairn Wraith right now? It's in the $55 "Tormented Souls" box. Which is a Spirit Host($25), a box of Black Knights/Hexwraiths($33) and a Cairn Wraith(was around $14 or $15 last I checked).

It's actually a fairly good box to work with, and I'm concerned it'll be sold out and go away permanently now that Legion of Nagash has dropped. Same with the Barrow Lords box(Grave Guard, Black Knights, Wight King for $65).

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I clicked on the closest to what is accurate. I don't play AOS, and if these things had been a really good fit for WFB 6th Ed. I STILL wouldn't pay that much for those four models. Period. I've been burned on the pricing far longer than most here, it would seem. More than $15 for a character is insanity, unless the model is made out of precious metal. Not pewter, that gak can die a death.

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
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Newcastle, OZ

At that price, no.

I don't like the model design, period, and even if I did, that price puts it into the "Hell no" category.

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Gathering the Informations.

 chromedog wrote:
At that price, no.

I don't like the model design, period, and even if I did, that price puts it into the "Hell no" category.

If they came 4 in a single, nicely designed collector's box like Archaon or the Celestant-Prime or the other 'big' models for something like $100USD and you did like the designs, would you have bought them then?


I could barely bring myself to get the Lord-Ordinator for this campaign personally, and I only did that knowing that I can paint and sell him on locally to a Dwarf player. Not because of the price. But because of (as Chromedog stated) the model design. He could have been a great model if he was given a single two-handed hammer and a nice relaxed pose or something like the Warrior Priest blessing the Empire Handgunner(hammerhead on the ground, haft supporting a tome) diorama piece that GW sold years ago.

PS: Not trying to call you out or sway your mindset. I'm just genuinely curious as to what would make you willing to buy a 4 character set, when all 4 are from different factions?

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I got the darkoath queen for the campaign.
   
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I mean I get GW's pricing since you only technically need one of these...but still. It seems a bit excessive...although I am tempted by that Moonclan Grot. Not for AoS but as a Great Shaman for either 8th Edition or 9th age.

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Well, seeing as Neave Blacktalon just came out at 25US, the Heralds look even crazier at $35. Pretty sure a larger box and the paper inside does not add $10 over her price.



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Gathering the Informations.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Well, seeing as Neave Blacktalon just came out at 25US, the Heralds look even crazier at $35. Pretty sure a larger box and the paper inside does not add $10 over her price.

Seeing as how Naeve Blacktalon was previously only available as part of a $160 boxed set(which, btw, is still a fairly good deal considering Horticulous is $55) it becomes a lot like Inquisitor Greyfax.

Do you want her for conversion purposes? You can get her for $25.
Do you want her and are you planning on running an army of Vanguard? Split Blightwar with a Nurgle player.

$25 for Naeve Blacktalon individually, $35 for a box of Vanguard Raptors, $60 for Vanguard Palladors, Vanguard Hunters are only available in groups of 5 in Blightwar or SC: Stormcast Vanguard--otherwise it's $60 for 10.
$55 for Horticulous individually, $60 for Plague Drones, $25 for Nurglings, $29 for the Plaguebearers.

$120 for the parts of the Vanguard you can actually buy separately--or $145 to buy the stuff solo to approximate it(this also nets you a Lord-Aquilor, but so what? He's also in the big Vanguard set which is a better deal for someone who is looking to start the Vanguard side of things out). Also worth mentioning that if you look at any of the Warscroll Battalions that are pointed out, none feature Gryph-Hounds. It's only been the starter products that have done so--which is an absolute kick in the nads.
$169 for the Nurgle Daemons--which you'd probably just replicate by buying the SC: Nurgle Daemons and Horticulous($140).

Naeve is $25 for the same reason Greyfax is; most of the people who wanted her have bought her. She was the dummy prize in a boxed set that had fairly good value.
The Heralds are $35 for some stupid reason; but they probably figure that they'll sell easier once people realize that they're Grand Alliance buffers and not really single faction buffers.
   
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Why would a two handed hammer be a better construction tool than a set of smaller hammers?

I see the Lord Ordinator as more of an architect than a labourer anyway.
   
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 auticus wrote:
I got the darkoath queen for the campaign.


I got the Darkoath Queen but no campaign. My local store started renovating just in time for the campaign and closed down the gaming area.

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Gathering the Informations.

Marleymoo wrote:
Why would a two handed hammer be a better construction tool than a set of smaller hammers?

I see the Lord Ordinator as more of an architect than a labourer anyway.

Didn't say it would be a 'better construction tool'--just that a two handed hammer could look like a construction tool(sledgehammer/mallet style) but since he's essentially a siegesmith/scryer/mystic/warrior...a two handed hammer would kinda/sorta fit the trope of a warrior-cleric a bit better than him running around all Valten style.

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@Kanluwen, I see what you mean.

The fighting stance doesn't really help bring his character across either.
   
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I plan on converting the queen to be jumping off of a tall ledge onto her victim below.

The bad thing will be with AOS shooting rules, she will be even easier to pick out and one shot but I think it will look cool at least.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 auticus wrote:
I plan on converting the queen to be jumping off of a tall ledge onto her victim below.

The bad thing will be with AOS shooting rules, she will be even easier to pick out and one shot but I think it will look cool at least.

Shattered Dominion Large Basing Kit.

There's a piece in there that's perfect for this without making her too large. I used it for Naeve Blacktalon.
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