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 AaronWilson wrote:
Weird attitude that when you eventually become a adult you're meant to stop wargaming?

I have friends with 2-3 kids who still hobby when they can and make my local games club once a week.

It's really difficult for the period of time when they're babies until they go to school. Unless you're an unsupportive spouse. Then it's super easy!

I feel like it’s less about the Edition and FAQs and more about having a group that’s good with casual play. I get that it would be discouraging to play Index Orks against an Eldar Codex Tournament list. But it can be perfectly fun to play Index Orks against a casual Eldar Codex list - with some narrative mission. I guess I’m fortunate that the folks I play with are friends first and gamers second.

Thats pretty much dead on. Your environment dictates a lot. If you are in a competitive area where everyone wants to run like they are iin the LVO and Adepticon 24/7 you're going to have a bad tiime.

8th edition has brought me and my friends back to 40k and we are all enjoying it immensely.

Our FLGs are growing and expanding, especially the one we favor. A new one just opened up as well.

We are having a ton of fun, really enjoying the new rules and lore.

It is sad my Space Wolves don't have a Codex yet but I manage.. because I like the army/lore/setting and everything to do with 40k pretty much.

I've given 8th a fair shake and every game just feels dull and clunky without a lot of the charm and decision making that took place in 7th. Going back and playing 7th is always a blast and results in fun games but every game of 8th just feels meh. Doesn't help that most of my preferred playstyles are non existent or useless in 8th but even when things go well the motions of playing 8th just isn't fun for me.

That being said I hope that maybe GW will turn things around and make the game less... tedious and face rolly. Short term I'm looking forward to the new Kill Team as I hope it will scratch that in depth tactical itch that 8th fails to sate.

 Vankraken wrote:
I've given 8th a fair shake and every game just feels dull and clunky without a lot of the charm and decision making that took place in 7th. Going back and playing 7th is always a blast and results in fun games but every game of 8th just feels meh. Doesn't help that most of my preferred playstyles are non existent or useless in 8th but even when things go well the motions of playing 8th just isn't fun for me.

Same here. Luckily, my friends enjoy 7th too and so we've stuck to it. It also allows me to build up a collection of 7th codices without having to pay new prices! The only problem is trying to include new models that didn't have rules before 8th, but I reckon we'll be able to convert them over to 7th without too much argument.

Honestly, the thing keeping me out of 8th is the Primaris Marines, and I heard flamers do not use templates. I don't even want to ask how big artillery guns work.

But, I would hold on to some of your stuff. No sense in dumping it all, you will likely end up trying to buy some stuff back. I still have 3rd edition stuff. Including a mint unplayed set. The last box set I bought was 6th (I saw no reason to buy 7th). I keep them on hand because the starter set ready to go so if I have a friend or family member I can pin down to play, I have everything we need. But I made the mistake of unloading 40k 2nd edition, as well as most of my Epic stuff at one point. and guess what? I ended up buying it all back on eBay for much more.

But the hobby or painting and building are still there. Unless you aren't into that part of it.

 KTG17 wrote:
Honestly, the thing keeping me out of 8th is the Primaris Marines, and I heard flamers do not use templates. I don't even want to ask how big artillery guns work.

But, I would hold on to some of your stuff. No sense in dumping it all, you will likely end up trying to buy some stuff back. I still have 3rd edition stuff. Including a mint unplayed set. The last box set I bought was 6th (I saw no reason to buy 7th). I keep them on hand because the starter set ready to go so if I have a friend or family member I can pin down to play, I have everything we need. But I made the mistake of unloading 40k 2nd edition, as well as most of my Epic stuff at one point. and guess what? I ended up buying it all back on eBay for much more.

But the hobby or painting and building are still there. Unless you aren't into that part of it.

At least in my area, nearly all the marine players soundly rejected primaris (some on fluff grounds, others after learning they don't have any customization and have to buy the ludicrously expensive transport thing and can't use any of the rhinos the players already owned). Since launch, I've played against an army of them once, and they were just kind of "marines but more boring."

All previously template weapons just fire a random number of shots. Usually, 1D6 if it was a large blast, 1D3 if it was a small blast, 1D6 that auto-hits if it was a flamer template. initially I didn't like it, but it grew on me after the first time I played against an IG player with 2 wyverns and he went

"wyvern firing at this unit"

*Rolls for shots*

Me: "Wait, you don't have to come over to this side of the board? You don't have to roll, then re-roll, then flip the template, then have me hold it, then argue with me about how many models are under it, then do that four more times? We just...keep playing the game?"

When I play sillier games, my opponents and I will often substitute templates back in for old times sake. Just use the guideline of D6 - pie plate D3 - cupcake and you can pretty much use them as you used to.

So..... Can I have your DA stuff?

the_scotsman wrote:
All previously template weapons just fire a random number of shots. Usually, 1D6 if it was a large blast, 1D3 if it was a small blast, 1D6 that auto-hits if it was a flamer template. initially I didn't like it, but it grew on me after the first time I played against an IG player with 2 wyverns and he went

"wyvern firing at this unit"

*Rolls for shots*

Me: "Wait, you don't have to come over to this side of the board? You don't have to roll, then re-roll, then flip the template, then have me hold it, then argue with me about how many models are under it, then do that four more times? We just...keep playing the game?"

When I play sillier games, my opponents and I will often substitute templates back in for old times sake. Just use the guideline of D6 - pie plate D3 - cupcake and you can pretty much use them as you used to.

Ah, well this doesn't sound too bad then. But I guess this means you have to focus on a single unit or model then, as opposed to a couple if they were in close proximity?

But the Primaris Marines keep me from buying any of the starter sets. And I always start from there.

Some times old blast weapons they have this kind of wording:

d3 attacks. If the target unit has 5/10 models or more, roll d6 attacks instead.

 KTG17 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
All previously template weapons just fire a random number of shots. Usually, 1D6 if it was a large blast, 1D3 if it was a small blast, 1D6 that auto-hits if it was a flamer template. initially I didn't like it, but it grew on me after the first time I played against an IG player with 2 wyverns and he went

"wyvern firing at this unit"

*Rolls for shots*

Me: "Wait, you don't have to come over to this side of the board? You don't have to roll, then re-roll, then flip the template, then have me hold it, then argue with me about how many models are under it, then do that four more times? We just...keep playing the game?"

When I play sillier games, my opponents and I will often substitute templates back in for old times sake. Just use the guideline of D6 - pie plate D3 - cupcake and you can pretty much use them as you used to.

Ah, well this doesn't sound too bad then. But I guess this means you have to focus on a single unit or model then, as opposed to a couple if they were in close proximity?

But the Primaris Marines keep me from buying any of the starter sets. And I always start from there.

It does. It essentially eliminates the micro surrounding template weaponry. In general, shooting in 8th requires far less micro, melee requires far more. For me, it's a trade-off, since I play both in most of my armies, and in my experience outside of flamer templates most of the micro involved with blast weaponry was mitigated by the randomness of the weapons. But for pretty much anyone I've introed with 8th - if they express sadness that templates are gone, I just say "so, do you want to just play with them then?" Nothing about the core mechanics of 8th is incompatible with old templates/scatter dice, unlike vehicle facings which really dont work in 8th.

Start Collecting sets exist for most factions now, with full sprues instead of monopose. They come with all the rules for the miniatures inside besides the point values. The core rules are also free, if you just want to play smaller games/custom missions. I don't like the starter box either (haven't liked them since Black Reach with its super-ork value) but it's pretty unnecessary as a first purchase.

Purifying Tempest wrote:
Let the meta settle while painting your junk.

I don't want to hear about anyone painting their junk.

Play Infinity! Less than twenty models necessary and a very immersive rules set with a living wiki and army builder!

Much more tactical game as well. Gun lines don't exist.

I quit in HS/College. Then came back in a big way in my late 30s early 40s. My recommendation would be chuck everything in a storage tote that's easy to move without the foam and other BS. Give away your codexes/indexes/rulebook and put the tote in storage. You arent going to get anything near what you paid for the plasti-crack. So don't bother unless you need the space. If you do, sell it all at once and don't look back.

 KTG17 wrote:
But the Primaris Marines keep me from buying any of the starter sets. And I always start from there.

Forgebane has zero Primaris in it.

 doktor_g wrote:
I quit in HS/College. Then came back in a big way in my late 30s early 40s. My recommendation would be chuck everything in a storage tote that's easy to move without the foam and other BS. Give away your codexes/indexes/rulebook and put the tote in storage. You arent going to get anything near what you paid for the plasti-crack. So don't bother unless you need the space. If you do, sell it all at once and don't look back.

Yeah put all of your DA stuff in the same tote in your storage and sell it to me and don't look back.

Yeah I'm in the same boat as some of the other posters here.

I got into GW stuff in my early to mid teens. In my early 20s, most of my nerd stuff sat in my parents' basement. In my 30s I slowly repatriated it in sets based on my own rekindling interest (and my mothers insistence lol).

Now in my 40s my interest and time investment is really gathering speed even with a kid and a full adult life otherwise.

My suggestion to the OP is to consider keeping it all if it's low impact for you (i.e. you don't need the cash and you have a convenient place to store them), but if not consider keeping the figures that you think are the coolest and have you have the most emotional investment in (especially if they're painted).

You might find that in a decade you'll get back in and wish you had your old models. In the meantime, there's no harm in putting the hobby down and walking away.

I left the game in the 90's, my models lived in a carrier bag for over 20 years. Brought them out a year ago and showed my kids, we had fun sticking them back together and now I'm playing again. The old models turn heads at the FLGS and now I'm being regularly tabled by my Necron loving offspring (they didn't exist when I stopped! Necrons that is, not offspring obvs). Have a break, keep the kit, come back if you want, but the models will only be cooler when you do!

 auticus wrote:
Thats pretty much dead on. Your environment dictates a lot. If you are in a competitive area where everyone wants to run like they are iin the LVO and Adepticon 24/7 you're going to have a bad tiime.

Actually what he really said is friends first gamers second. I play with friends and all we do is bring the most competitive lists we can. And it's damn fun. So long as everyone's shooting toward the same goal, you're gonna have a good time.

 hollow one wrote:

 auticus wrote:
Thats pretty much dead on. Your environment dictates a lot. If you are in a competitive area where everyone wants to run like they are iin the LVO and Adepticon 24/7 you're going to have a bad tiime.

Actually what he really said is friends first gamers second. I play with friends and all we do is bring the most competitive lists we can. And it's damn fun. So long as everyone's shooting toward the same goal, you're gonna have a good time.

Exalted. Some people have a mutual understanding to bring the best stuff to destroy one another.

 KTG17 wrote:
Honestly, the thing keeping me out of 8th is the Primaris Marines...

But the Primaris Marines keep me from buying any of the starter sets. And I always start from there.

You're choosing a very odd hill to fight and die on if this is the only thing that's truly whats holding you back from 8th.

I think I read it somewhere in the post. My feelings are lost to time with this game system. I have been involved since1988 and tried to keep pace along the way. I fell out around 6th or 7th ed. I have accumulated/ collected a lot of miniatures and will hand them off to my offspring and their offspring. I enjoyed playing until apocalypse came along. I enjoyed the smaller sized games and still use bits of GW miniatures for better focused Skirmish games. I will still get the random GWkit because I like them but WH40K is a smoldering ruin, just like Cadia and their fluff. In closing long live the Red Corsairs!

I came back to the hobby after a 16 year break. So glad to have kept most of my old stuff. Can you imagine my surprise to find out that not only was my old faction still around, but it was winning tournaments? Dark Reapers/Guardians/Rangers/Wave Serpents were dope back in 3rd as well. All I had to do was pick up Yvraine and was well on my way to stomping everyone around me at the beginning of 8th. Yeah a lot of it comes down to luck, but having some painted armies lying around for when new editions release or when the meta shifts doesn't hurt.

IMO, take a break, but keep your stuff!

 Zontarz wrote:

 KTG17 wrote:
Honestly, the thing keeping me out of 8th is the Primaris Marines...

But the Primaris Marines keep me from buying any of the starter sets. And I always start from there.

You're choosing a very odd hill to fight and die on if this is the only thing that's truly whats holding you back from 8th.

This. I've been playing 8th Edition for 15 games now and since the launch of the edition I haven't seen a single Primaris on a table. Sure, there are Space Marine players, but most of those I know run them as a secondary army now (you know how it goes, you start 40k with Marines and eventually switch to something else) and simply bring their old models to the table.

Also Primaris do have some pretty nice looking models, even if there aren't many. Intercessors look much better than the old regular tacticals side by side IMO.

The fact that 8th has slowly just turned back into being just as bloated as 7th, while having fewer layers of tactical thought involved is a shame. But keep your stuff, take a break and I hope you come back to the hobby.

No need to quit completely. Figure out what era of 40K appealed to you the most, stick with that, and use the internet to find like minded opponents. If it can work for me playing 3rd Edition 40K and 6th Edition WFB, it can work for anyone.

 daedalus wrote:

Purifying Tempest wrote:
I think the typical response to this type of thread would be: bye, can I have your stuff?

That's probably the typical response, yeah. And my answer is that I'd need to catalogue what all I have, but I'd give you a bulk rate discount if you took it all.

But I think a more constructive response would be: take a break. Let the meta settle while painting your junk. The rapidly changing environment is probably what is causing the most stress.

That's the good response, but that's what we all said for 7th. I dunno. The difference was then that there was a lot of frustrations across the board back then. Now it's basically just apathy. I think I'm going to keep the stuff that I actually care about, but I don't see myself getting back into it again at this point if the group is collectively done too.

If you ever have kids, you might change your mind. I stopped playing at 24-25, now got back into it at 42 last year because I have 2 boys I can play with in a few years time.

 Aesthete wrote:
I got into GW stuff in my early to mid teens. In my early 20s, most of my nerd stuff sat in my parents' basement.

Now in my 40s my interest and time investment is really gathering speed even with a kid and a full adult life otherwise.

That would have been my story too, if I hadn't instructed my parents to give everything away while I was at uni

I quit actually playing the game many years ago, but I still love the modelling, the lore, and to a lesser extent, the painting.