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I guess you didn't watch the Twitch games from yesterday? They have said the app is 100% free, about a thousand times!
Its about six hours long and is where all the info spoilered above came from;
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/256919901

Wayland games have all the new pre order stuff at 20% off for May 4th with a code.

Holy crap FFG is tearing stuff up! After reading some of the stuff on the FFG site: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/1/x-wing-second-edition/ They are splitting up First order and Galactic Empire + Rebels and Resistance. Jedi's have their own tokens / abilities now? I had to stop reading the article made my eye twitch with anger and confusion as to why.

Glad I have to pay for FFG's power creep issue they caused. I haven't played competitivly, so I dont know the full hate of current metas. I'll be hopeful that this doesn't ruin the game.

You are lucky you haven't played the competitive meta cause that has ruined the game, Rebels are a complete NPE with turrets, mega bombs, PS 11 coordinate ec.etc.etc. ad. nauseam. The changes to the way turrets work alone is worth the kickstart. But you are not forced to change to V2 if you have no issue with V1 and dot want to play in FFG events.

I suspect the subfaction split is partly balance related, its far easier (in theory) to balance ships/upgrades against a smaller pool and avoid unwanted unintentional interactions (because all the toys all the time ends in Jumpmaster like crazyness)

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
I suspect the subfaction split is partly balance related, its far easier (in theory) to balance ships/upgrades against a smaller pool and avoid unwanted unintentional interactions (because all the toys all the time ends in Jumpmaster like crazyness)

I'm happy they're making them their own factions. They have plenty of ships to do it, and it reduces potential "soup" lists like Palpatine and Omega Leader, or Rey and Biggs. I welcome the change.


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 Maddok_Death wrote:
Holy crap FFG is tearing stuff up! After reading some of the stuff on the FFG site: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/5/1/x-wing-second-edition/ They are splitting up First order and Galactic Empire + Rebels and Resistance. Jedi's have their own tokens / abilities now? I had to stop reading the article made my eye twitch with anger and confusion as to why.

Glad I have to pay for FFG's power creep issue they caused. I haven't played competitivly, so I dont know the full hate of current metas. I'll be hopeful that this doesn't ruin the game.

The Jedi have the tokens taken into account with their cost, I can guarantee it. And the mechanic doesn't recharge (albeit certain abilities like Luke's). So, it hardly has that big of an impact on the game. I, for one, am cool with more mechanics being added to the game. Mo' options.

I am secretly hoping that part of it is that they are opening up design space for a few new factions as well.

 ingtaer wrote:
I am secretly hoping that part of it is that they are opening up design space for a few new factions as well.

Like what factions?

Ahmm, brace yourself, I will say it quick. Prequels. There I said it. Yes the films suck, bad, really bad, really really bad. However their are a lot of really nice ships. The separation of droid focus (calculate) and Jedi powers gives me hope that they are trying out that design space in order to bring in stuff like the eta-2. Now that Resistance and FO are their own factions it means that Republic and Separatists wont need to be tied into others and can stand alone. I also wouldn't be adverse to Hutt or Mandos far enough down the line.

I think a Ep7 forwards 'Scum' faction is a possibility

I am not up on the new fluff, have any Bounty Hunter/Mercenary/Crime gangs come up at all?

 ingtaer wrote:
I am not up on the new fluff, have any Bounty Hunter/Mercenary/Crime gangs come up at all?

not sure as I don't bother with books or comics but with both the Resistance and FO very much on the backfoot by the end of TLJ there's bound to be those out for all the can get to take advantage

Umh, not sure if the quadjumper is going to cut it... I suppose there is a lot of debris for them tractor ships on to.

Separating the F/O and Resistance into factions of their own makes sense. Especially since Han and Chewbacca are the only pilots to bridge the two eras. I wonder if we'll be able to use old toasters (droids) in new ships, as that would still somewhat make sense.

Maybe we won't see Finn and Kannan in the same ship anymore, and wouldn't that be just so, so sad. Let me go cry a river...

 krodarklorr wrote:

 ingtaer wrote:
I am secretly hoping that part of it is that they are opening up design space for a few new factions as well.

Like what factions?

Like Republic and Separatist

 kodos wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

 ingtaer wrote:
I am secretly hoping that part of it is that they are opening up design space for a few new factions as well.

Like what factions?

Like Republic and Separatist

FFG has said they do not want to include the prequels, so I would assume it's a good idea to write off those ideas.

Not to say I wouldn't love it! Let me buy some N-1 Starfighters, please.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Separating the F/O and Resistance into factions of their own makes sense. Especially since Han and Chewbacca are the only pilots to bridge the two eras. I wonder if we'll be able to use old toasters (droids) in new ships, as that would still somewhat make sense.

Maybe we won't see Finn and Kannan in the same ship anymore, and wouldn't that be just so, so sad. Let me go cry a river...

Resistance Luke would be fun.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Separating the F/O and Resistance into factions of their own makes sense. Especially since Han and Chewbacca are the only pilots to bridge the two eras. I wonder if we'll be able to use old toasters (droids) in new ships, as that would still somewhat make sense.

Maybe we won't see Finn and Kannan in the same ship anymore, and wouldn't that be just so, so sad. Let me go cry a river...

Resistance Luke would be fun.

especially with fluffy subtitles the cards have 'grumpy unka Jedi' should suit

 Flinty wrote:
One the one hand the App is a nice idea as it permits all kinds of neat balancing to happen. On the down side when support for the game finally gets dropped there will be no possible way to play it as all the points values will be gone. Maybe that's a bit too forward looking however...

Even if all support for the app was dropped, anybody who had the app and data already installed will still be able to use it. And it would likely still be available for purchase on the app store.

 krodarklorr wrote:
The Jedi have the tokens taken into account with their cost, I can guarantee it. And the mechanic doesn't recharge (albeit certain abilities like Luke's). So, it hardly has that big of an impact on the game. I, for one, am cool with more mechanics being added to the game. Mo' options.

Force recovers at +1 per turn. Multiple points give you a bank, and Luke can be really aggressive with using his.

 Peregrine wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
The Jedi have the tokens taken into account with their cost, I can guarantee it. And the mechanic doesn't recharge (albeit certain abilities like Luke's). So, it hardly has that big of an impact on the game. I, for one, am cool with more mechanics being added to the game. Mo' options.

Force recovers at +1 per turn. Multiple points give you a bank, and Luke can be really aggressive with using his.

Oh, obviously I missed that part then. Well regardless, it's most likely built into their cost. I'm not concerned about it.

Given people have kept Knight Model's flash in the pan Marvel game alive, something tells me someone might find a way to make X-Wing playable after the app's death.

 kodos wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

 ingtaer wrote:
I am secretly hoping that part of it is that they are opening up design space for a few new factions as well.

Like what factions?

Like Republic and Separatist

With some of the old Clone Wars equipment making it into Legion, the ARC-170 being in the game... I think it's looking more and more likely, especially if Disney is driving the deal. They are not about to let one third of the franchise go unused because of bad dialogue/stupid movie plots. If the ships look cool (they do) and can bring something to the game (they can) then there will be something coming out eventually.

Although it is a second edition, they have to look at the future and think of new releases. Galaxies is now long, long gone and a lot more people have seen Clone Wars than played that MMO, methinks. With the old EU getting pushed aside into Legends, they have to be leery of dipping into that pool. KOTOR is not on anyone's radar, it seems (alas), and the game requires a bit more material to pad movie releases. The Resistance is still at least a year away, innit?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
The Resistance is still at least a year away, innit?

I doubt it. People will riot if they have to wait that long, especially if FFG releases prequel trash before 2.0 kits for the stuff we already bought.

Wow I must say I was not expecting this. For a time I thought the game was going stagnant, I am glad to hear that the devs are still supporting it!

Now to find people to play it with...

While I'm overall very happy for the update, I think I'm going to be one of the ones selling their collection. If I had gotten into X-Wing earlier and had spent upwards of $500 on it, then I would be ok with spending $140 to update my collection (starter + upgrade packs for two factions). As it is, I only spent around $200 and have only around a dozen ships per faction. I don't feel it would be worth the cost as of now.

Fortunately, X-Wing doesn't look like it's going anywhere, so getting back in won't be too much trouble.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
The Resistance is still at least a year away, innit?

I doubt it. People will riot if they have to wait that long, especially if FFG releases prequel trash before 2.0 kits for the stuff we already bought.

I'm pretty sure Mathieu was talking about the show, not the entire faction as a whole.

The faction conversion kit is in wave 2, which is likely to be December of this year. Resistance the tv show is next year.

Arcanis161 wrote:
While I'm overall very happy for the update, I think I'm going to be one of the ones selling their collection. If I had gotten into X-Wing earlier and had spent upwards of $500 on it, then I would be ok with spending $140 to update my collection (starter + upgrade packs for two factions). As it is, I only spent around $200 and have only around a dozen ships per faction. I don't feel it would be worth the cost as of now.

Fortunately, X-Wing doesn't look like it's going anywhere, so getting back in won't be too much trouble.

Depending on what you have it might be worth getting some upgrades off others. I’ll have extras of a lot of the newer stuff. I’d wager I’m not alone.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
The Resistance is still at least a year away, innit?

I doubt it. People will riot if they have to wait that long, especially if FFG releases prequel trash before 2.0 kits for the stuff we already bought.

I'm pretty sure Mathieu was talking about the show, not the entire faction as a whole.

Ohh, capital R Resistance. Yeah, that's a gap for new releases, even if I never want to see prequel trash in my game.