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I think an Amazonian-type human race would be cool. All girls… but wait that’s generic. If they can move away from historical types, it would be great but what is there other than steamish-types and knightish-types. Maybe go Asianish?

hmm, if i could make a human aos army, i would prefer a guild of human engineers who design and creates a heap of clockwork machines.

it would be a pet relationship style of army.
you have the clockworks that makes up the fighting units and then you have its human inventor as the unit leader.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
hmm, if i could make a human aos army, i would prefer a guild of human engineers who design and creates a heap of clockwork machines.

it would be a pet relationship style of army.
you have the clockworks that makes up the fighting units and then you have its human inventor as the unit leader.

Sounds like the Ironweld Arsenal to me.

Battletome: Ironweld! Lesser cog fort miniature! Do it GW!

We might have gotten a preview of something to come soon with the Evocator Warscroll.


"Redeemer" isn't a keyword I've spotted before, or if it is I paid no attention to it.

It was literally a "I paid no attention to it" thing. I didn't like Liberators and never even really bothered looking at their keywords in-depth.

I too am eagerly awaiting Humans in AoS.

As much as I love the models for several of the factions, I definitely find the idea of mere humans relying on courage, training and technology in the face of demigods and monsters to be quite alluring.

I would be happy with updated freeguild or Darkoath humans. Seeing as Nighhaunt got their models based around the Knight of Shrouds aesthetic, and the new chamber of Stormcast are based on the Lord Ordinator, I fully expect a Darkoath faction of humans based around this aesthetic styling sometime in the not-too-distant future:

Yeah I highly suspect Darkoath are coming soon, possibly being one of the two factions GW said are coming this year

I don't think we'll see them this year. My expectation is that we'll see Darkoath around Q2 of next year. We haven't seen any rumors about them, and none of the Rumor Engine previews seem to fit, but I still think they're coming. My guess is they'll be after AoS Slaanesh, which I'm guessing will be January or February 2019.

Darkoath are coming. They are coming soon. I think they will be next faction after stormcast and nighthaunt, then followed by goblins. This is because the malign portents models are clearly the ranges they intend to release soon. Around the time of malign portents we even got a lot of teasers for darkoath- more than any others anyway. I imagine darkoath and goblins are going to follow a similar pattern to what happened with 40k- box set armies being fleshed out, codexes coming out and then new ranges being released.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
hmm, if i could make a human aos army, i would prefer a guild of human engineers who design and creates a heap of clockwork machines.

it would be a pet relationship style of army.
you have the clockworks that makes up the fighting units and then you have its human inventor as the unit leader.

So in a way, like a fantasy clock punk version of the Cult Mechanicus? Count me in.

For the humans, GW needs to rediscover the likes of these guys here:



Really think outside the box.

You know what I would like them to do? Take the Freeguild, human aspects of the Ironweld Arsenal and the Collegiate Arcane and put them back together under one banner, but with different command traits and artifacts of power for them. Think of how Chaos has it's regular mortal units, it's 'elite' mortal units (bloodbound, arcanies etc.) and demons. Something like that.

Gunpowder units should have the Ironweld Arsenal keyword added to them. Not just for humans, but Duardin too. This should show the companies/clans who are in the patronage of the IA as their security detail, hence the gunpowder weapons. Hence, an IA artillery train could have handgunners, Pistoliers and Outriders as its battleline troops, allowing an all IA army without needing allies.

@McMagnus, I'm more suspecting Goblins before Darkoath, but only because of the rumour engines. However, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Darkoath come before, as they'll be pretty sweet based on the 2 models they have currently.

@Future War Cultist, those dudes updated would be cool and suit Sigmar. If they did a proper IW army release, taking advantage of that Da Vinci style tech and making this awesome invention based army, I'd be totally down. Putting all the factions together could be interesting but I don't know if that'll happen. What could happen is that all the current IW units might get divvied out to their respective factions again, and get a whole new release themselves.

I'd be well up for crazy Rennaisance Italians with Da Vinci dialled up to 12.

The Rennaisance theme would make them fit in with the existing humans, but distinct due to the regional differences. The Italian inspiration would also allow them to draw on lots of classical themes too- the Rennaisance Italians venerated the classics, and this lead to artistic choices, like the barbute helmet clearly inspired by the Greek corinthian helmet.

I think that would fit nicely with the picture showing soldiers that look both Rennaisance and gladiatorial in style.

Man, I miss the Birdmen! They were some of my first GW models! I just wish I painted better back then (and didn’t lose them).

 Tiberius501 wrote:
@Future War Cultist, those dudes updated would be cool and suit Sigmar. If they did a proper IW army release, taking advantage of that Da Vinci style tech and making this awesome invention based army, I'd be totally down. Putting all the factions together could be interesting but I don't know if that'll happen. What could happen is that all the current IW units might get divvied out to their respective factions again, and get a whole new release themselves.

I just had this image of a human made cannon, organ gun and gyrocopter/bomber going to the freeguild faction while in return the dispossessed receive a duardin style steam tank, helblaster and hellstorm in return.

But this is actually a good idea. What they could do is simply give the original factions their ironweld units back and say that these were simply designed by themselves, either independently or under IA supervision. And then the actual IA can be completely redesigned as a proper combined human/duardin faction with a distinctly Azyr asthetic that's also more in line with this Da Vinci idea too. It could be that the IA are always inventing and focusing on the latest stuff (the opposite of the Cult Mechanicus), so the more established stuff (handguns for example) get handed down to the freeguilds and the dispossessed.

I know that the free peoples/guild are supposed to in general represent human sigmar worshipper armies, but some friends and I had discussed the idea of the "free peoples of the realms" basically the humans living in the different realms. I would'nt think it would be hard to take them and just add thematic rule or two for each realm and in back say what realm can ally with which forces. Its not fancy new models but for me would be cool to see the living and dead of Shyish marching to war.

Actually, some interviews with the devs had them reveal that's what they're leaning towards for Freeguild, multiple realm focused humans.

I'm hoping that means we'll see all the fantastical epicness the realms can offer for the cities and kingdoms that are settled there like realm of Life knightly orders riding exotic beasts backed up by Heaven and Fire realm main army troops with a assortment of baroque plate armors and weaponry while specialist auxiliary troops from the other realms fill the gaps with everything from Ghur tribesmen slaying monsters, Chamon gunners using clockwork animals for defense or mounts and Shyish monks calling on spirits to attack and demoralize the enemy.

CogForts being glorious centerpieces of steampunk forts on spider-like piston legs that make a devastating slow advance would be top-notch too.

If you read the new rulebook, in every realm lore page, theres drawings of different human warriors/cultures proper to those realms.

Nice! Can you tell us anything about them?

Not really, I just did take a look because this past weekend the organizers of the Santiago GT (40k team tournament, 18 teams, 64 players) had a copy of the new AoS starter to take a look at the endless spells, miniatures and rulebook. I spend like 2 minutes looking at the new lore, specially the nice drawings, etc... but is really , really complete, and as the organizer I was talking too said, this is the first time AoS feels like a complete universe.
And the fact this is all, for the most part, new lore, is refreshing after 20 years of reading the same thing again and again in 40k and fantasy.

Theres like 2 full pages for realm, and each one of them has drawings of "citizens" of the realm. The ones I saw where some kind of aztec human from the realm of Life full of flowers and palm leafs, other from the realm of metal with a ton of clockwork stuff, etc... but my memory is a little muddy with the details of what those humans where wearing.

 Galas wrote:
Not really, I just did take a look because this past weekend the organizers of the Santiago GT (40k team tournament, 18 teams, 64 players) had a copy of the new AoS starter to take a look at the endless spells, miniatures and rulebook. I spend like 2 minutes looking at the new lore, specially the nice drawings, etc... but is really , really complete, and as the organizer I was talking too said, this is the first time AoS feels like a complete universe.
And the fact this is all, for the most part, new lore, is refreshing after 20 years of reading the same thing again and again in 40k and fantasy.

Theres like 2 full pages for realm, and each one of them has drawings of "citizens" of the realm. The ones I saw where some kind of aztec human from the realm of Life full of flowers and palm leafs, other from the realm of metal with a ton of clockwork stuff, etc... but my memory is a little muddy with the details of what those humans where wearing.

Now this I like! Really looking forward to seeing these for inspiration.

Indeed!

It's been years--well over a decade--since I had any hopes that GW would do "the right thing." But they're doing enough things right, right now that maybe they'll come through with some amazing trademarkable human faction(s).

I was having a great time playing Warhammer total war recently and got a real temptation to start an Averland army, the thing is I hadn't played tabletop for years and when I went to see about collecting Warhammer fantasy again I found age of sigmar! I checked it out and was totally put off by the lack of humans I just don't find out relatable to fight in a world without humans having at least a decent role.

Rogerio134134 wrote:
I was having a great time playing Warhammer total war recently and got a real temptation to start an Averland army, the thing is I hadn't played tabletop for years and when I went to see about collecting Warhammer fantasy again I found age of sigmar! I checked it out and was totally put off by the lack of humans I just don't find out relatable to fight in a world without humans having at least a decent role.

I'm currently sucking it up and collecting some Free Peoples along side their Stormcast leaders. Honestly, in person they're actually pretty cool. Crude for sure, but full of character and, with a suitable colour scheme, don't look odd amongst other Sigmar forces. Plus the Freeguild General on Griffon is easily one of the best models

Humans definitely have a decent role in the mortal realms but it's just not represented in the models yet.

There's kingdoms, cities and villages throughout the realms that are usually human-centric with the realm of fire being the most active now as Hammerhal provides a crucial link between it and the realm of life. The humans push forth and claim territories long lost to chaos with mobile bastions known as CogForts while older civilizations recover from minor ones like the volpone kingdom to the major cities shown in the Firestorm campaign.

On the life realm side of things you have more sparse human settlements and cities but lots of knightly orders and the industrial flying city of Greywater that's been a large resource to supplying Order's forces with weaponry.

It's a shadow compared to human civilization in the Age of Myth where wonders and empires covered the realms but we're seeing the lands developing now and trying to reclaim their former glorious amongst the turmoil of constant threats from enemy forces and lands savaged during the Age of Chaos.

Hammerhal is definitely the biggest step in this and is quite the nice lore chunk for humans and order civilization in general.

Shinros has a lore thread that you can read up on it in the quest section.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/710601.page

 Tiberius501 wrote:

Rogerio134134 wrote:
I was having a great time playing Warhammer total war recently and got a real temptation to start an Averland army, the thing is I hadn't played tabletop for years and when I went to see about collecting Warhammer fantasy again I found age of sigmar! I checked it out and was totally put off by the lack of humans I just don't find out relatable to fight in a world without humans having at least a decent role.

I'm currently sucking it up and collecting some Free Peoples along side their Stormcast leaders. Honestly, in person they're actually pretty cool. Crude for sure, but full of character and, with a suitable colour scheme, don't look odd amongst other Sigmar forces. Plus the Freeguild General on Griffon is easily one of the best models

That's the thing, I really like the empire models especially grestswords and hippogryph Knights but with the crazy speed of AOS releases I just think they will stop making the old empire figures at some point.

For now I'll stick with my Scythes of the emperor in 40k but if there is a decent human faction is be so tempted to pick them up. Especially if they are anything like Knights etc similar to bretonnians.

I wouldn't worry about that too much. The Empire look is pretty ingrained in the art and lore so far as the main look of the Azyrite people due to being with Sigmar so long during the Age of Chaos and going through a renaissance of the world that was tactics and dress. Likely when new human models are made there will be multiple types with Azyrheim going that direction but replacing skulls with lightning bolts.

Though it'll probably be around 2021 when that happens as they announced the next five years of AoS products were ready in 2016 and by dev accounts they're still working on new human designs so it'll be quite awhile.

Also, demigryphs not hippogryphs. Those are half horse and hooved like the Vanguard models.

We mustn’t forget all the ‘good’ barbarian tribes of humans too. The ones who Stormcast are apparently mostly recruited from. They play a very minor role in the Overlord novel for example. Though funnily enough, the free guild rules actually could represent them well if you chose your models carefully. Some people have possibly already explored them already:

Bretonnia needs to return (with whatever copyrightable name they want to throw at them). I always love the common man standing up against the monsters and horrors that exist in the Warhammer universe which is something that is lost when everything related to humanity are super humans. Brets also have the wonderful medieval imagery which is something that the empire doesn't quite have (they seem more renaissance in nature to the brets more dark age tech).

You might get medieval knights but you'll never get Brets. Arthurian Knights aren't copyrightable.