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 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Perhaps we need a worst Star Wars moments thread, too? Then again, we already have a TLJ thread going ...


Two words: Holiday Special.


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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
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 Just Tony wrote:
As far as fiction? I know I'm going to catch hell for this, but it still has to be the Qui Gonn/Obiwan/Maul fight from Phantom Menace. THAT is what a lightsaber duel should look like.


Why would you catch hell for it? That was by far and away the best part of the movie. Indeed, that's the only part of it that I'm willing to watch again.


While it may be the best part of the movie, it still suffers from the prequels "style over substance" issues. Maul isn't really a character in TPM, there's no connection between him and the jedi to make the fight interesting beyond the twirls and flips. The only part where any of the characters get to show any character in that fight is the aforementioned bit when they are separated from each other by the energy fields.

In all of the original trilogy there is always an underlying emotional conflict to the duels. In ANH you have the master facing their fallen pupil one last time, in ESB you have a son attempting to save his friends, avenge his mentor and his father, in ROTJ you have a son attempting to save his father. Those undercurrents make the fights more interesting as it gives the actors something to actually act about.

Even the new trilogy, with the missteps it has made, has done better in this regard than the prequels. The only fight in the prequels that ever carried any of that emotional weight was Obi-Wan and Anakins, and even that failed to use that emotional connection during the fight (Obi-Wan never, during the entire duel, talks to Anakin except to say he has the high ground). They're meant to be best friends (not that we really ever see that on screen much, they spend most of the screen time in AOTC and ROTS apart, another failing of the prequels), but Obi-Wan tries less than Luke, who had never known his father to be anyone but Vader, to bring Anakin back.


My personal favourites:

Luke vs Vader duels. They are both superbly choreographed and shot. Shots like Luke and Vader silhouetted in the carbon freezing chamber, that long shot of them dueling across the Death Star room with the stairs and ruined walkway coming into the foreground. Exquisite cinematography.

"It's not my fault!" in ESB. One of the best recurring jokes in the series, where each time the hyperdrive fails you are treated to Han's protestations that he isn't to blame. Capped off perfectly when Lando also uses it after the hyperdrive still doesn't work after his engineers were meant to have fixed it.



I won't argue any of that (but it's worth mentioning Darth Maul wasn't played by an actor, but by a fight coordinator). I just said it was the best part of the movie.

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I kind of mentally substitute them with chimps when I watch ROTJ. It makes their slaughter of the stormtroopers tolerable, and their likely treatment of the survivors horrifying.

   
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Within the movie they're basically treated as dropbears. They'd be pretty horrifying if they existed in numbers in real life.
   
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Favorite from each movie:
TPM: the fight scene. The entirety of it was just awesome.
AotC: Dooku telling Obi Wan the truth, and having him deny it because “Sith”.
RotS: the internal conflict in Anakin when he has to choose the Jedi who tells him “I don’t trust you” or the Sith who has only shown friendship thus far. Knowing right from wrong, but having it twisted in front of him. It was probably the best scene HC has ever done.
ANH: just...the whole damn movie. I love it. It might not have the power of ESB, and I know technically that one is better, but damn...ANH is amazing in full
ESB: “No...I AM your father!” “No!!!!”
RotJ: “how could they be jamming us if...they don’t know we’re coming...PULL BACK!”
TFA: “help me, father...” *stab*
TLJ: ok, it sucked as a whole. But Mark Hammill did an amazing job as Luke.

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 Manchu wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
Kylo punching his wound in the snow is a recent favorite. Seeing him pathetically try to drum up anger was the point where the character clicked for me.
For sure. That whole threeway duel sequence is amazing. There is so much emotional pay-off for all three characters.

Preach brothers! My favorite lightsaber fight.

The first thing that popped into my mind was: The little music cues in the old Tie Fighter / X-Wing games when new units arrived.

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 Paradigm wrote:

While we're being nice about AotC though, I do love the sequence where Anakin sets out on his speeder bike over the dunes, tries to rescue his mother then slaughters the Sand People in his fury. There's some superb shot composition there and a score to match, and it's a great example of how, when he wants to, Lucas can do visual, dialogue-light storytelling very well indeed.


I remember seeing a "best moments in the prequels" video that made the point that Christiansen's acting was actually very good when he's not dealing with Lucas dialogue.

And it's not so much a single moment in the film itself so much as something I realised later on, but in Rogue One, the entire story and all the hope of defeating the Death Star comes from that one pilot who delivered the message from Jin's dad. It's all down to a regular guy (he didn't have a special destiny, he didn't have a grudge against the Empire, he had a lot to lose)--who chose to do the right thing when he had every reason to keep his head down.

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I'll list some prequels moments because I've just rewatched 1 and 2 (and 4 and 5 are almost entirely made of great moments, from start to finish)

1. Qui-gon cutting through the doors on the Trade Federation ship with his lightsaber "They're still coming through!"

2. Anakin leaving his mother ("Don't look back") was a cool moment, and Darth Maul ambushing them immediately after

3. Qui-gon's funeral, Mace Windu asking "But which was destroyed, the master, or the apprentice?" and the camera focusing on Palpatine, in profile

4. All parts of Anakin and Padme's return to Tatooine in AotC.

5. Dooku's return to Coruscant at the end of Clones until the finish. I loved the closing sequences with the clone army and Palpatine looking on from the balcony




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 Vulcan wrote:

I won't argue any of that (but it's worth mentioning Darth Maul wasn't played by an actor, but by a fight coordinator). I just said it was the best part of the movie.


Ray Park IS an actor. He's also been a fight and stunt choreographer as well as stuntman (Same as Jason Statham and Dave Bautista) but neither takes away from the fact that he is an actor.
His voice was also dubbed by another person in that movie (You can hear his actual voice in the X-men movie where he played "Toad").

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 chromedog wrote:

His voice was also dubbed by another person in that movie.


That other person being the absurdly talented Peter Serafinowicz (currently playing the Tick).

Yes, this is Darth Maul (or some component of him):



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 Elemental wrote:
All the usual suspects from the movies, of course. But one that probably nobody else will mention comes from an EU novel where this masked villain is creating all sorts of chaos and carnage, and everyone's wondering who it could be. Finally he gets killed, he's unmasked and....it's just some guy who wasn't that important or noteworthy before he turned to the Dark Side to take the quick and easy route to power and respect. And one line that stuck with me was "No wonder he'd worn a mask. A face like that wouldn't have scared anybody."

The prequels actually have a lot of good moments scattered through them, and one I mentioned in the TLJ thread was where the energy fields come up in the fight against Darth Maul and separate the three combatants. The impatient apprentice Obi-Wan seethes, the Sith killer Maul stalks up and down, waiting for another shot at his prey, and the Jedi master Qui-Gon sits down and meditates.


That villain was Kueller.
From the book "Dark Saber".
One of my favorites. It also completely detailed the Kessel Run and told the origins of the Death Star... Before the prequels and Kennedy ruined everything.

Edit: wrong book The New Rebellion is the correct name.
But I did like Dark Saber.

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That villain was Kueller.
From the book "Dark Saber".
One of my favorites. It also completely detailed the Kessel Run and told the origins of the Death Star... Before the prequels and Kennedy ruined everything.

Edit: wrong book The New Rebellion is the correct name.
But I did like Dark Saber.


Yeah, I remember that one. His real name was something like Dolph and he was just some dropout kid from the academy. As I recall, Leia took him out by pumping him full of blaster holes when Han was nearby carrying a Ysalamiri.

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 Riquende wrote:
 DeffDred wrote:


That villain was Kueller.
From the book "Dark Saber".
One of my favorites. It also completely detailed the Kessel Run and told the origins of the Death Star... Before the prequels and Kennedy ruined everything.

Edit: wrong book The New Rebellion is the correct name.
But I did like Dark Saber.


Yeah, I remember that one. His real name was something like Dolph and he was just some dropout kid from the academy. As I recall, Leia took him out by pumping him full of blaster holes when Han was nearby carrying a Ysalamiri.


Close, he got a blast to the face through his hand. He tried to pull a Vader by absorbing the shot but the big, white, furry monster had swallowed a Ysalamiri whole and was standing nearby.
I like that Kueller had purchased all the droid factories and had been making all droids into bombs for years.

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