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The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

 lolman1c wrote:
The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

And let them experience the same rate of fatal workplace accidents.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

And let them experience the same rate of fatal workplace accidents.

Why does no one ever campaign for women to work as trash incinerators or pest control down the sewers?

Karol wrote:

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
It wouldnt. Because buying a exlsive clam pack for cosmetics that dont even distiguish youe army as being a part of a different sub faction is unlikely to be worth its high cost.

They need to just add some female torsos and heads into a uodated box of the basic kit.

This. IG badly need a re-release of the basic infantry kits, they are extremely dated, limited and compared to almost all infantry kits GW released in the last 10 years the models look extremely derpy (not to mention that the kit only has like 5 unique heads, so you'll end up with a ton of clones no matter how many heads from different kits you are desperately adding) with god awful body proportions even by 40k standards.

Throwing in 2-3 extra female heads is easy, just like with the Tau Fire Warrior kit (and also welcome, you can't have too much variety especially for the sargeants). Throw in two or three extra torsos as well for the Catachan kit, with the regular Catachan jacket and all ripped and wearing a military sport bra or the white shirt they have been using so far:

Man, did those people that do art ever have anything heavy in their hands? if the flamer was the size it is on the art, the guardsman would have to be as bulky as a space marine or ogryn to life it. The casing alone on that darn thing probablly weights around 20kg, and there iss till the carnister with gel or jet fuel.

To be fair, if weight was an issue then we wouldn't be able to equip guardsmen with heavy flamers (which the flamer in the image is)... which even Marines only put on their Terminators and other heavy suits for good reason .
Also Catachans are basically miniaturized Ogryns to begin with, just look at Harker or Straken.

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:

Karol wrote:

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
It wouldnt. Because buying a exlsive clam pack for cosmetics that dont even distiguish youe army as being a part of a different sub faction is unlikely to be worth its high cost.

They need to just add some female torsos and heads into a uodated box of the basic kit.

This. IG badly need a re-release of the basic infantry kits, they are extremely dated, limited and compared to almost all infantry kits GW released in the last 10 years the models look extremely derpy (not to mention that the kit only has like 5 unique heads, so you'll end up with a ton of clones no matter how many heads from different kits you are desperately adding) with god awful body proportions even by 40k standards.

Throwing in 2-3 extra female heads is easy, just like with the Tau Fire Warrior kit (and also welcome, you can't have too much variety especially for the sargeants). Throw in two or three extra torsos as well for the Catachan kit, with the regular Catachan jacket and all ripped and wearing a military sport bra or the white shirt they have been using so far:

Man, did those people that do art ever have anything heavy in their hands? if the flamer was the size it is on the art, the guardsman would have to be as bulky as a space marine or ogryn to life it. The casing alone on that darn thing probablly weights around 20kg, and there iss till the carnister with gel or jet fuel.

To be fair, if weight was an issue then we wouldn't be able to equip guardsmen with heavy flamers (which the flamer in the image is)... which even Marines only put on their Terminators and other heavy suits for good reason .
Also Catachans are basically miniaturized Ogryns to begin with, just look at Harker or Straken.

I don't think plastic toys worry about weight...

@Thread title:
Loads, mate.

 Nazrak wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Unfortunately it's a no-win situation for GW if they decide to make them.

They'll be called sexist for making them an upgrade pack instead of their own kit.
They'll be called sexist for making them their own kit.
They'll be called sexist for continuing to sell the male models instead of replacing them with the female models.
They'll be called sexist for allowing players to shoot and kill female models.
They'll be called sexist if they make them "attractive".
They'll be called sexist if they make them "ugly".

The only winning move is not to play.

I don't know if you're trying to be funny, but if not, I think you're demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding either of what sexism *is*, or the reasons why people take issue with it.

I think you are demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of how crazy the SJW brigade is. Hell PETA just launched a campaign against 40k because GW allows PLASTIC fur on its models. I just watched a show where a Woman advocating for Womens health was verbally attacked and harassed because apparently she was fat shaming by advocating for healthy living.

Now to the actual OP's question, I don't think they would sell that well, but they would have enough of a niche to stay on the Online store at the very least, if anything it would be good to help get more girls involved in the game which would in turn boost their bottom line.

We had the same nonsense baout female models not selling for Stormcast and pretty much every fantasy line - then they made some and guess what they keep making them cos they sell

hobojebus wrote:

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

And let them experience the same rate of fatal workplace accidents.

Why does no one ever campaign for women to work as trash incinerators or pest control down the sewers?

Probably because the sewers are full of mutants and the gangs of the under hive.

 lolman1c wrote:
The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

What the Emperor thinks is largely irrelevant to the current Imperium. They've drifted so far from his vision over 10,000 years. He was adamant that he should not be worshipped as a god, but look at where they are now?

If the current dogma discriminates then that is all that matters for the current Imperium, and the current dogma is incredibly irrational.

Stux wrote:
If the current dogma discriminates then that is all that matters for the current Imperium, and the current dogma is incredibly irrational.

But the current dogma... doesn't discriminate on the basis of gender. There are female guard, female inquisitors, female knight pilots, basically the only factions that aren't mixed are Space Marines and Custodes, which are direct results of the Emperor's design.

If anything it's more likely that the Emperor was sexist and the Imperium isn't.

Not sure if this is taking us OT, but what do people think about the new BB Cheerleaders as female models?

Pretty good sculpts - better than previous cheerleaders they've done.

 Elbows wrote:
Pretty good sculpts - better than previous cheerleaders they've done.

Bloody awful paint job as per usual though.

BB Cheerleaders

Humans:
Their bodies are almost identical. That´s pretty lazy design right there.

Chaos:
I would have preferred curled ram horns and no tail. Though the chaos chakrams are great. The left cheerleader even resembles slightly Lucy Lawless (Xena). Add a sword, remove the horns & tail and the Warrior Princess is ready for the table top.

DE:
Over the top violence with the heart and disembodied head. Even the chaos gals don´t need any grisly trophies. Less would have been more.

Orks:
Goofy as always and therefore they fit right in.


Conclusion:
I will probably buy a blister of the Humans, Chaos and DE cheerleaders. Sorry green gals but I don´t own an Orc team.

I quite like em but seen better (and bought better) on Kickstarters.

Humans - as said - they are pretty lazy / similar sculpts
Dark Elves - probably the best and would probably work in a Daughters of Khaine army with minimal adjustments
Chaos - should be more variety, more androgynous but cute.
Orks - pretty good




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 Arachnofiend wrote:

Stux wrote:
If the current dogma discriminates then that is all that matters for the current Imperium, and the current dogma is incredibly irrational.

But the current dogma... doesn't discriminate on the basis of gender. There are female guard, female inquisitors, female knight pilots, basically the only factions that aren't mixed are Space Marines and Custodes, which are direct results of the Emperor's design.

If anything it's more likely that the Emperor was sexist and the Imperium isn't.

Agreed and he also created the Sisters of Silence so its unlikely he was either or maybe not as bad.

 Strg Alt wrote:
Humans:
Their bodies are almost identical. That´s pretty lazy design right there.

If I was being generous I might say that they were going for a professional, synchronised look for the Humans, but it does look like they just re-used the same body. They could have at least moved some of the armour pads around.

I don't see how female models would be sexist, and I have somehow been able to purchase female dark elves for about 2 decades now.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Unfortunately it's a no-win situation for GW if they decide to make them.

They'll be called sexist for making them an upgrade pack instead of their own kit.
They'll be called sexist for making them their own kit.
They'll be called sexist for continuing to sell the male models instead of replacing them with the female models.
They'll be called sexist for allowing players to shoot and kill female models.
They'll be called sexist if they make them "attractive".
They'll be called sexist if they make them "ugly".

The only winning move is not to play.

TBH, lack of females in the guard kit is at best a secondary issue to the long ass list of problems that the guard kit has. The kit itself is ancient old, the proportions are hilarious, the sculpting is terrible quality, and it contains what, about a quarter of the weapon options that you can get in total on guardsmen?

So far, every time games workshop has put out a kit that has some female sculpts, it is either A) barely noticed or not noticed at all (Tau Firewarriors, Necromunda Van Saar, Harlequins) or B) actively praised (new Sisters of Battle stuff, new female stormcasts).

You've set up this pessimistic hypothetical (oh the rampaging liberals will just whinge about it and call it sexist) for something that isn't at all hypothetical and is a thing that games workshop has actively been doing for years now.

A part of me hopes they won't do IG women so I am not tempted to buy more models. I am already knee deep collecting Dark Eldar and Daughters of Khaine, as well as saving for the Sisters of Battle release. Any more stuff like that and I'll have to buy a bigger house and sell a kidney.

beast_gts wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:
Humans:
Their bodies are almost identical. That´s pretty lazy design right there.

If I was being generous I might say that they were going for a professional, synchronised look for the Humans, but it does look like they just re-used the same body. They could have at least moved some of the armour pads around.

I agree with the synchronised look but it translates badly into a mini. All of them were uniforms so you don´t have much leeway into changing their clothes. At least they took the effort to paint the skin of the various girls in different tones.

Now we only need coaches, assistant coaches, bloodweiser babes, camera teams, mascots, talent scouts, etc.

Stux wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
The Emperor's sees all humans as equal so he would pay them equally.

What the Emperor thinks is largely irrelevant to the current Imperium. They've drifted so far from his vision over 10,000 years. He was adamant that he should not be worshipped as a god, but look at where they are now?

If the current dogma discriminates then that is all that matters for the current Imperium, and the current dogma is incredibly irrational.

Ey, but as we know... all are allowed to fight and die equally for the imperium. You want to give your life up then you can... feel free... the imperium doesn't care if you're male or femlae, as long as you have a bayonet fixed and you're running towards the enemy.

I like everyone but the very first one. But that could just be the paintjob.

Maybe I'll buy a couple of sets, and make a magical girl 40K army.

edit: referring to the cheerleaders posted.

Just throw in some female faces in an updated guard plastic kit and there you go.

From a "business" point of view...the likely "best" solution is when (if) Sisters get plastic, add an extra sprue of female heats/torsos to the molds. Then you satisfy the Sisters players, And add in options for people who want to add in female soldiers, inquisitors etc...

pinecone77 wrote:
From a "business" point of view...the likely "best" solution is when (if) Sisters get plastic, add an extra sprue of female heats/torsos to the molds. Then you satisfy the Sisters players, And add in options for people who want to add in female soldiers, inquisitors etc...

Would there be a difference in the torso of a female guardsmen? With the added bulk of the flak armor you couldn't tell a difference other than the face which even then will likely have a helmet on. Female guardsmen should not have crappy boob carapace armor or any such nonsense. It looks stupid and functions even worse for protective purposes.

This is a woman wearing armour. If she had a helmet on? I'd probably not be able to tell if she was a man or a woman just by looking.

By the way, she won the Longsword Competition at a worldwide invitational tournament. Her name is Samantha Swords.

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:

pinecone77 wrote:
From a "business" point of view...the likely "best" solution is when (if) Sisters get plastic, add an extra sprue of female heats/torsos to the molds. Then you satisfy the Sisters players, And add in options for people who want to add in female soldiers, inquisitors etc...

Would there be a difference in the torso of a female guardsmen? With the added bulk of the flak armor you couldn't tell a difference other than the face which even then will likely have a helmet on. Female guardsmen should not have crappy boob carapace armor or any such nonsense. It looks stupid and functions even worse for protective purposes.

Because its a over the top fantasy game - same reason Blood Angels (and in fact some ancient warriors in reality) have nipples on their armour.

Works for the new female Stormcast.

It'd depend on the uniform in question - Cadians would work with just different heads, while Catachans or Mordians would need different bodies.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Tibs Ironblood wrote:

pinecone77 wrote:
From a "business" point of view...the likely "best" solution is when (if) Sisters get plastic, add an extra sprue of female heats/torsos to the molds. Then you satisfy the Sisters players, And add in options for people who want to add in female soldiers, inquisitors etc...

Would there be a difference in the torso of a female guardsmen? With the added bulk of the flak armor you couldn't tell a difference other than the face which even then will likely have a helmet on. Female guardsmen should not have crappy boob carapace armor or any such nonsense. It looks stupid and functions even worse for protective purposes.

Because its a over the top fantasy game - same reason Blood Angels (and in fact some ancient warriors in reality) have nipples on their armour.

Works for the new female Stormcast.

It wouldn't fit the guard at all though. They are not about having their soldiers have ornate armor at all. Their female guardsmen (assuming they are wearing standard issue carapace or equivalents that the overwhelming majority of guard will use) would wear mass produced armor, made by the lowest bidder with just enough protection to somewhat protect the wearer. A female guardsmen would be almost identical to a male one (model wise) outside of the face. Once you put armor on their chest can be 100% identical.