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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Succubus Golgoths arrived!

One was perfect condition, the other was snapped off its base and one of its claws was broken off... hmm...

Shouldn't be too hard to fix, and really given how rare they are I can't say I'm too unhappy.


all those models are fragile but yeah you scored bigtime
   
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I want to get my hands on some UNA guys (Tac Arms and similar suits) to use for Battletech purposes.

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Fresh-Faced New User



California

Another AT-43 fan here. Partner in crime to ShrapnelSmile - in fact that's how I met him. Sadly I got into the game right about the time Rackham folded (circa late 2009). Just in time to catch some fantastic deals as vendors blew out stock and I managed to get huge quantities of all the armies (even ONI). They are among my most prized possessions. When I die I'm going to go full-Pharoah and have them buried with me.

AT-43 has one of the slickest rules systems I've ever seen for tabletop miniatures gaming. Yes, it has a few glitches here and there but overall it works pretty well and fairly smoothly, especially when the players are being actual sportsmen about it and not nit-picking every stupid little thing like little troll rules lawyers. AT-43 is NOT to played with nit-pickers.

I think the balance issues that have been brought up are not as bad as most think. The second best thing about AT-43 (right behind it's smooth simple rule system) is how wonderfully asymmetric the armies all are. I've never seen another game get asymmetry so right. The key to victory in AT-43 is to truly, deeply understand your army and how it works. Even the way you build your list is critical to success - a victory always starts with the proper list. And you must show absolute discipline on the battlefield - you MUST play your army correctly no matter what losses you take. Indeed, taking losses (even massive losses) is a key part of the game - you need to ruthlessly expend your manpower assets just like they were ammo or fuel. You can't win with Red Blok (for instance) without burning at least two-thirds of your force. Often for the space-russkies, victory is claimed by only a tattered bloody handful of troops and - maybe - a shot up smoking AFV. Every faction has certain things it's really good at, and certain weaknesses that at least one other faction is really good at exploiting. No two factions are the same, or even similar. Your job is to play to your faction's strengths while shrewdly managing your weaknesses. Much more so than any other game I can think of. The actual combat itself is almost secondary to the meta of setting up your faction abilities, list, and strategy.

Some of the best tabletop wargaming I've ever done has been in the AT-43 system. I'm still massively saddened by Rackham's demise. I really miss those weird Frenchmen.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Ireland

Reading this made me remember just how great a game AT-43 was. Sadly not many people played in my area at the time of the games release, and with Rackham going under it was pointless keeping my collection. One thing I wish I had of kept were the rules. With today's quality of plastic kits it would be very easy to kit bash a force and get people into the system.

To all of those who still have their collection and opponents, you really are lucky.

The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. 
   
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Second Story Man




Astonished of Heck

I think it never took off in our meta was because of the lack of hobby. Ironically, it is one of the things which attracted a lot of X-Wing players (along with the Star Wars thing).

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Fixture of Dakka





West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

I actually got big into AT-43 and Confrontation Age of Ragnorok because unlike my other minis games, other than little touch-ups on individual models, I could spend 100% of my time working on terrain.

Keep meaning to get either game on the table, they are great ones!



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Regular Dakkanaut





washington state USA

I own some UNA stuff and I picked up a bunch or kharmans in a deal, but I don't have the rules so I have been using them in other games.

Sadly I was one of those people just getting into the game as it died.

Now I switched over to its WWII version-DUST 1947

It has similar unit composition from what I have seen, if it was anything as good as how dust plays it is unfortunate it didn't do well.

Funny side note, I have kharmans and I also have squads of AXIS pioneer gorillas, talk about irony.


 
   
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Reeve




belleville, il

Just rebased some una I got in a broken minis lot and just orderd some Red blok love this game and will get a little bit of every thing to use in a universal rule set.
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Managed to snag a lot of Therians off a guy on eBay.

18 regular infantry of various types, 3 Bane Goliaths and 4 Assault Medusas for about AU$50.

   
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Reeve




belleville, il

Nice I just got part of my red blok today!
   
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Australia

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Managed to snag a lot of Therians off a guy on eBay.

18 regular infantry of various types, 3 Bane Goliaths and 4 Assault Medusas for about AU$50.


You got that plus assault medusas for $50? Dude holy crap that's freakin awesome! I think I still need a few assault medusas' to finish off my collection (given up on getting the grim golem overseer!).

Where in Aus are you based?

And side for for everyone else, does anyone have "Cry havoc!" vol 16 or 17? I know they are only in french but I'm trying to get the AT-43 info out of it...trying to summarise all the Damocles Campaign notes from them as they have some additional rules not included in the campagin book (such as alternative platoon structures and equipment).

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Central Valley, California

 AegisGrimm wrote:
One of the house rule balances I seems to remember to take their "reroll" number, and instead of having that many complete rerolls (which is completely insane), you only reroll that many dice TOTAL. It makes them a bit more bearable, but still on a rather different power level than the original 4 factions.

The original four were nicely balanced, and then the rerolls of the Cogs and the Zombie spawning of the ONI just threw everything out the window.


Sadly, this is 100% accurate Aegis.

On a positive note, here's a fun pic:


~ Shrap

Rolling 1's for over four decades
 
   
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Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Missed the window to get into ONI. I wish I had funds at the time.


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 dulydude wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Managed to snag a lot of Therians off a guy on eBay.

18 regular infantry of various types, 3 Bane Goliaths and 4 Assault Medusas for about AU$50.


You got that plus assault medusas for $50? Dude holy crap that's freakin awesome! I think I still need a few assault medusas' to finish off my collection (given up on getting the grim golem overseer!).


That is a good haul. I only have four Assault Medusas in a large Therian army, they are hard to find.

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Regular Dakkanaut






I have a midling collection of Therians.
At one of the last Miniature Market blowouts a few years ago I bought an obscene number of karmans and had a friend in the USA pick them up for free shipping.
I have all the books and keep saying I'll try out the game "one of these days"
   
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Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
I have a midling collection of Therians.
At one of the last Miniature Market blowouts a few years ago I bought an obscene number of karmans and had a friend in the USA pick them up for free shipping.
I have all the books and keep saying I'll try out the game "one of these days"


Other than having probably more Therians and less Karmans this is word for word my position. Right down to having a US partner for shipping Miniatures Market purchases.

n'oublie jamais

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






 Orlanth wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
I have a midling collection of Therians.
At one of the last Miniature Market blowouts a few years ago I bought an obscene number of karmans and had a friend in the USA pick them up for free shipping.
I have all the books and keep saying I'll try out the game "one of these days"


Other than having probably more Therians and less Karmans this is word for word my position. Right down to having a US partner for shipping Miniatures Market purchases.


Hah funny.

I remember I bought the base game and a couple of Therian units and an extra Golgath or two.
By the next time they had a sale the U.S. mail had just gone through a big price restructure and fuel was at a premium & AT-43 boxes are huge of course.
You'd have the S&H end up more than the minis in some cases.

About 2 years ago I found someone selling At-43 on a local online classified website. A shocking find since most people in the hobby advertised on hobby-centric forums or Facebook marketplace groups.
I bought a sealed box of Operation Frostbite for like $20 or $30 and while picking it up I saw he had a couple big boxes of other AT-43 stuff including a good sized Oni army NIB.
He didn't really know what it all was - he had no experience with miniature games. He was a comics/Star Wars collectible guy who bought up large lots at auctions and sold off the stuff he didn't want.
Instead of trying to snag it all from him I just pointed out the stuff that was high value and recommended a couple of specialty sites/forums to post them on.
Still waiting for the Universe to return on that Karmic investment.

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Highlord of Terra






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

I had my At-43 sent to a forum members house, by prior agreement. He deboxed them placed them all in a bag and wrapped the bag in bubble wrap, shipping volume was a small fraction of the original. I lose all packaging and there were a small number of breakages but it was glueable so no biggie.

It would have saved a fortune on international shipping, and the smaller parcels were not as noticable by customs. The contents were also thoroughly second hand by then and could legally be given an arbitrary value.

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It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
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 Orlanth wrote:
That is a good haul. I only have four Assault Medusas in a large Therian army, they are hard to find.
Well now I have 12, and I the first 8 back before the prices went way up.

Guess the prices I paid for my pair of Succubus Golgoths kinda balances that out.

   
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Highlord of Terra






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

I didnt like the Type 1 Golgoth models at all.

Instead I planned some sleeker versions of Type 2 golgoths by using three Type 2 golgoth legs on an armature under an eldar Jetbike canopy.
I have more than enough cheap Wraith golgoths to make some.
However I lazed out and didnt go through with the build.

The other reason I didn't do this is because Rackham made GW seem like paragons of game balance. COGs come to mind here, but also Tiamat's broken routines that allows her to spam type 1 golgoths. If I dfont have any I cant cheese out on them.

Nice haul of Assault Medusas, truth be told I stopped at four and didnt look for more. I much prefer Goliaths. I would be miffed if I didnt have any, but one token squad is enough for me. They look nice and have lots of character but are very slow.

I do have lots of Storm Arachns though, and like to spam those just because it looks like I should. They are hard to get hold of.

n'oublie jamais

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
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Bought a box of Storm Arachns from Miniature Market. Came crushed, leaving two of them unsalvageable.

Luckily MM had a few more in stock, and were kind enough to send a replacement.

   
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Highlord of Terra






Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

I bought my Storm Arachns from France, so for once they came in boxes.

n'oublie jamais

It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. 
   
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Spawn of Chaos




Baltimore, MD

I have substantial armies for all factions minus O.N.I. As back in the day a prepainted competitor to 40k seemed too good to pass up... you see how well that went.

Now they just sit in my basement looking forlorn.
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

Same with my stuff for both games, though I hope to get them out into the light of day someday. Way too great of games to get rid of them for any reason.

So e day Im going to try and pry my friend's prepainted Ram collection out of his hands. The only regret to come out of both '43 and CAoR is not getting into that army.



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