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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Wait... aren't the resistance forces the ones that have been hiding out on the planet for a century piecing together ramshackle vehicles? And now the equivalent of the Sanford and Sons 4th mechanized Max Max division has a space fleet? At least with space orc(k)s the ridiculousness was grandfathered in with the rest of the 1980's inspired ideas from RT but this feels more than a bit wierd IMO.


My quick answer is 'Meh'.

My longer answer is they were the dudes hiding in the asteroids salvaging derelict military ships to return to action.

Yeah it's a stretch, in real life no guerilla group, no matter how resourceful, is building fighter planes in a cave, much less star ships but with self-sufficient mining colonies and such... it CAN work. More or less.


Most of the world's self sufficient developed countries at peace aren't building fighter planes in factories. I generally prefer to focus my suspension of disbelief on the alien aspects of new universes instead of the human ones. It's just too orky IMO and I was fine with the resistance cobbling together ground and even air assets from the wreckages littered around the planet (and even coming up with limited amounts of their own stuff). The admittedly fictional universe with aliens is losing some of the grounding in potential centuries in the future realism with regard to the human factions IMO with resistance space fleets. I'll admit that it's a murky line drawn in the sand under water but I liked the universe and models Dave created initially. It tasted like the right mix for a new scifi universe and now I feel like I'll have to add to much salt. YMMV. I've got a few models and terrain sets but I'm not heavily invested in the game so if that's what the core players want then so be it.

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I'm ok with the idea of other colonies existing outside of the UCM, and some of the colony ships no doubt brought infrastructure, such as factories that make tools to make more complicated factories from a database full of standard construction templates.

Now, the bolted together frankenships don't really work for that, but I suppose a colony returning to space could DS9 some kitbashes from available parts to soak up shots from the bug ships while the Defiants and Galaxies bring the pain to the enemy.

   
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 warboss wrote:


Most of the world's self sufficient developed countries at peace aren't building fighter planes in factories. I generally prefer to focus my suspension of disbelief on the alien aspects of new universes instead of the human ones. It's just too orky IMO and I was fine with the resistance cobbling together ground and even air assets from the wreckages littered around the planet (and even coming up with limited amounts of their own stuff). The admittedly fictional universe with aliens is losing some of the grounding in potential centuries in the future realism with regard to the human factions IMO with resistance space fleets. I'll admit that it's a murky line drawn in the sand under water but I liked the universe and models Dave created initially. It tasted like the right mix for a new scifi universe and now I feel like I'll have to add to much salt. YMMV. I've got a few models and terrain sets but I'm not heavily invested in the game so if that's what the core players want then so be it.


No I totally understand, it's easy to suspend disbelief when it comes to aliens, super powers, magic etc because no one can say how they might work.

But when it comes to manufacturing, logistics and stuff that DOES exist in the real world it's harder to ignore logic gaps.

Ultimately it will come down to rules I think. If 5 or 6 ramshackle ships can ALMOST take on a military ship then yeah it works. But if they're going head to head it'll be more of a stretch.

But for me it just means more plastic crack I have no investment in the game or the universe.

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So I started DZC with resistance, they where a cool faction and I loved their fluff, them not being in DFC turned me 100% off.
Also, does anyone have pictures of the resistance behemath? I really wanna see it

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The answer could well be that Dave (aka Hawk Wargames) either didn't want to do them, but now he's an employee of TTCombat they did

or he didn't see a decent idea of how to have them exist in the narrative he'd written, but given a couple more years to think (and no longer having to do all the company owner work) he came up with this way to make it work

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Wait... aren't the resistance forces the ones that have been hiding out on the planet for a century piecing together ramshackle vehicles? And now the equivalent of the Sanford and Sons 4th mechanized Max Max division has a space fleet? At least with space orc(k)s the ridiculousness was grandfathered in with the rest of the 1980's inspired ideas from RT but this feels more than a bit wierd IMO.


My quick answer is 'Meh'.

My longer answer is they were the dudes hiding in the asteroids salvaging derelict military ships to return to action.

Yeah it's a stretch, in real life no guerilla group, no matter how resourceful, is building fighter planes in a cave, much less star ships but with self-sufficient mining colonies and such... it CAN work. More or less.


I look at it like the newer Battlestar Galactica series. It took a few seasons for the fleet to get their together, start the mining operations for raw materials and then start cranking out replacement fighters. These guys had to remain hidden and do the construction without being observed. I just hope point wise they would be behind everyone else because going toe to toe with an enemy should not be their priority and hiding should still be a key to their longevity.

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I think the key for the Resistance Fleet is the idea of the Rogue Colony that got mentioned earlier in this thread. There is apparently at least one - and possibly more - colonies that managed to avoid detection by the Scourge by mostly going dark, and presumably have been building up their own fleet for the inevitable showdown. It's also possible that they've been supplying covert logistical support to active Resistance groups, including ships.
   
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Pictures from the facebook group, this is the gun that's going on the Resistance Behemoth. Not sure if the vehicles are a part of it or not, but they're helpful for scale.
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Eumerin wrote:
I think the key for the Resistance Fleet is the idea of the Rogue Colony that got mentioned earlier in this thread. There is apparently at least one - and possibly more - colonies that managed to avoid detection by the Scourge by mostly going dark, and presumably have been building up their own fleet for the inevitable showdown. It's also possible that they've been supplying covert logistical support to active Resistance groups, including ships.


Yeah, I get the theory that the ships are more of a non-UCM colony rather than the actual ground Resistance.



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IIRC, one of the "Resistance" fleets is one of those hidden colonies. The other is a Battlestar Galactica-style nomad fleet, made up of those ships from the last battle between the two factions that would go on to become the UCM and the PHR. This battle took place literallly the day before the Scourge arrived, so there was no opportunity for either side to attempt salvage or rescue operations. Some ships were sufficiently damaged to be nocombatant but still mogile and/or habitable, so the survivors managed to patch up some hulks from the crippled ships and wreckage.

Neither is the "resistance" (insomuch as that term is a single faction), but they have similar goals and potential for alliance. They all want the Scourge gone, but not necessarily under the control of the UCM or PHR - or each other, for that matter, but that's a matter for future ... discussion.
   
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Dave very specifically said that Space Resistance were never going to be a thing, as they didn't fit into his universe. Now they seem to have appeared, and I really hope it isn't a sign that Dave has lost creative control, one of the things which made the game great in the first place


 
   
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These aren't really resistance fleets.

The other colony is like a sixth faction, in that it isn't in the UCM and uses different tech to them, which is more closely liked to pre-scourge invasion humanity. If they had ground forces they would not be the rag tag type of the resistance but a properly organised military. They may use some of the same tanks etc as the resistance due to the pre-invasion origins but i wouldn't expect the hoards of technicals and biker gangs etc.

Meanwhile the scrapper fleet is it's own thing, and don't have any world bases assets, they live entirely aboard their ships (that we know off).

They may share common goals with the resistance groups of occupied worlds, but they are not the same entity.

it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it. 
   
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I'd call them more 'Remnants' than Resistance, at least as far as the Scrapper fleet.



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Well rumor is that Resistance is getting more modernish military stuff, like humvees and stuff.
So we will see, maybe those are meant to represent them.
Dave saying no Resistance put me off the game, so Im glad we are getting it....
Even if I have never really played any of them.
God maybe this kickstarter will breath life into the game.

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