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Audustum wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
I've always called them Cus-toads. All Latin accents are fake Latin accents.

Res ipsa loquitur.


They're not all fake. A lot of work was put into learning how Romans would pronounce things (which is different than how, say, the Vatican, would do it).

For Roman Latin, it's:

"kus-toe-days"


Yup. Also, and I've never heard anyone but me go for the old neckbeardy latin pronunciation but I like it, it would be "skit-ahr-ee-eye" not "Skit-ahr-ee." And a singular one would be a Skitarius.
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
Audustum wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
I've always called them Cus-toads. All Latin accents are fake Latin accents.

Res ipsa loquitur.


They're not all fake. A lot of work was put into learning how Romans would pronounce things (which is different than how, say, the Vatican, would do it).

For Roman Latin, it's:

"kus-toe-days"


Yup. Also, and I've never heard anyone but me go for the old neckbeardy latin pronunciation but I like it, it would be "skit-ahr-ee-eye" not "Skit-ahr-ee." And a singular one would be a Skitarius.


I’m also neckbeardy enough to call them skit-aha-ee-eye after spending hundreds of hours playing as House Brutii (Brew-te-eye) on Rome Total War

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Racerguy180 wrote:
 Hawky wrote:
"Astra Militarum" is pronounced as 'The Imperial Guard'


tricky pronunciation on this one

Actually, “Departamento Regimentos” is pronounced Imperial Guard. “Astra Militarum” is the broadest umbrella for IG, Militarum Auxillia, Militarum Tempestus, the Ordinatus, etc.

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the_scotsman wrote:
Audustum wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
I've always called them Cus-toads. All Latin accents are fake Latin accents.

Res ipsa loquitur.


They're not all fake. A lot of work was put into learning how Romans would pronounce things (which is different than how, say, the Vatican, would do it).

For Roman Latin, it's:

"kus-toe-days"


Yup. Also, and I've never heard anyone but me go for the old neckbeardy latin pronunciation but I like it, it would be "skit-ahr-ee-eye" not "Skit-ahr-ee." And a singular one would be a Skitarius.


I'm pretty sure it's Skeet-ahr-ee as far as classical Latin goes, simply because Latin only ever pronounces "i" as "ee". Just like Spanish or French. (Honestly, if you just pronounce Latin as if it were Spanish you'd probably be correct, just turn the "j" into a "y" sound and the "v" into a "w" )

If you happen to be basing your pronunciation off of Total War though, then just know that they got it wrong. "Julii" for example would be pronounced Yulee, and Scipii would be Skeepee since there is no soft "c" in Latin. In fact Julius Caesar is pronounced more like Yulius Kayssar. (which is where the german Kaiser comes from)
   
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I'm pretty sure it's Skeet-ahr-ee as far as classical Latin goes, simply because Latin only ever pronounces "i" as "ee". Just like Spanish or French. (Honestly, if you just pronounce Latin as if it were Spanish you'd probably be correct, just turn the "j" into a "y" sound and the "v" into a "w" )

If you happen to be basing your pronunciation off of Total War though, then just know that they got it wrong. "Julii" for example would be pronounced Yulee, and Scipii would be Skeepee since there is no soft "c" in Latin. In fact Julius Caesar is pronounced more like Yulius Kayssar. (which is where the german Kaiser comes from)
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Excuse me. Replace all prior “Departamento” with “Militarum.”

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Dandelion wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's Skeet-ahr-ee as far as classical Latin goes, simply because Latin only ever pronounces "i" as "ee". Just like Spanish or French. (Honestly, if you just pronounce Latin as if it were Spanish you'd probably be correct, just turn the "j" into a "y" sound and the "v" into a "w" )

If you happen to be basing your pronunciation off of Total War though, then just know that they got it wrong. "Julii" for example would be pronounced Yulee, and Scipii would be Skeepee since there is no soft "c" in Latin. In fact Julius Caesar is pronounced more like Yulius Kayssar. (which is where the german Kaiser comes from)

I've never studied classical Latin, but I believe I've read a similar explanation about the double "i" pronunciation before, that being that the sound is held ever so slightly longer, but otherwise doesn't change. The worst thing about Total War, is that now, whenever I imagine the pronunciation of Latin words, I invariably imagine them in a thick, Australian accent.
   
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 Apple Peel wrote:
Actually, “Departamento Regimentos” is pronounced Imperial Guard. “Astra Militarum” is the broadest umbrella for IG, Militarum Auxillia, Militarum Tempestus, the Ordinatus, etc.
Your statement is false.

"The Militarum Regimentos is a subdivision of the Imperial Guard. Presumably, it oversees Regiments."
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Militarum_Regimentos

Sorry for offtopic.


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I've never had a problem with daemon, aelf, aeldari etc, but then I'm surrounded by British English medical words with relic spellings derived from Greek, like aetiology. The a is basically silent, the US English spelling drops it entirely (etiology), so I can see why it causes more trouble over the pond. Daemon is actually the correct British spelling for referring to a non-biblical daemon.

As such, aelf and aeldari are pronounced identical to elf and eldari. I am pretty sure this is why GW did it, for minimal pronounciation change to reach easier IP protection.


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The word I've seen a lot of disagreement on is Cadia:

Cad-ee-ah, or Cade-ee-ah? I say the former, with the first syllable rhyming with bad, but most people I've met say the latter. I suspect the latter is more correct if the route of the word is from the Latin word cadus (bottle- something I recently learned in another thread).

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 Hawky wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:
Actually, “Departamento Regimentos” is pronounced Imperial Guard. “Astra Militarum” is the broadest umbrella for IG, Militarum Auxillia, Militarum Tempestus, the Ordinatus, etc.
Your statement is false.

"The Militarum Regimentos is a subdivision of the Imperial Guard. Presumably, it oversees Regiments."
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Militarum_Regimentos

Sorry for offtopic.

I think not. If one looks at the picture in the latest codex near the beginning, the Astra Militarum organization is divided into the Militarum Tempestus (stormtroopers), Militarum Auxillia (auxiliaries), Militarum Regimentos (Normal Regiments), Etc. I think it would be safer to say that when referring to the IG, it would be best to use Militarum Regimentos, as neither Auxillia or Tempestus make up the normal Guard. I don’t think I’ll put too much stock in an incredibly short Lexicanum.

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Eh? The Auxilia is things like Abhuman regiments; they've always been considered part of the Imperial Guard, as have the Stormtroopers.
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Eh? The Auxilia is things like Abhuman regiments; they've always been considered part of the Imperial Guard, as have the Stormtroopers.

But are they the “Imperial Guard,” per say? I’m going for an interpretation that they are supporting organizations, while Militarum Regimentos in reality is the faction most people think of when talking of normal guard regiments.

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If you have to say "normal guard regiments", then you're accepting the fact that there are guard regiments outside that category.

As I say, ever since the Imperial Guard was introduced, abhuman regiments, rough riders, etc - the auxilia - and the stormtroopers (when they were introduced) have been part of the Imperial Guard, never some side organisation.

The "Militarum Regimentos" is the standard "line" regiments, but it's possible it's not even an actual organisational unit, but rather just dog latin High Gothic for "ordinary regiments". I mean, I could do an organisation chart for Space Marine chapters and have a box under "Battle Companies" labelled "Tactical Squads", "Devastator Squads" and "Assault squads", but that doesn't mean those three groups represent anything in the Chapters' actual official organisation.
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you have to say "normal guard regiments", then you're accepting the fact that there are guard regiments outside that category.

As I say, ever since the Imperial Guard was introduced, abhuman regiments, rough riders, etc - the auxilia - and the stormtroopers (when they were introduced) have been part of the Imperial Guard, never some side organisation.

The "Militarum Regimentos" is the standard "line" regiments, but it's possible it's not even an actual organisational unit, but rather just dog latin High Gothic for "ordinary regiments". I mean, I could do an organisation chart for Space Marine chapters and have a box under "Battle Companies" labelled "Tactical Squads", "Devastator Squads" and "Assault squads", but that doesn't mean those three groups represent anything in the Chapters' actual official organisation.

I don’t know. The way a read into makes me feel there is a bigger distinctions here.

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 Stevefamine wrote:
Laaaassso / Lasssscannons / Lasssgun

It might be a British variation to call it LAZZ


Hadn’t thought of that much, but I tend to call it Lass-gun (as in Lassie), and I’ve heard a few pronounce it like lays-gun (as in lazy).

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 Haighus wrote:
The word I've seen a lot of disagreement on is Cadia:

Cad-ee-ah, or Cade-ee-ah? I say the former, with the first syllable rhyming with bad, but most people I've met say the latter. I suspect the latter is more correct if the route of the word is from the Latin word cadus (bottle- something I recently learned in another thread).
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Dandelion wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Audustum wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
I've always called them Cus-toads. All Latin accents are fake Latin accents.

Res ipsa loquitur.


They're not all fake. A lot of work was put into learning how Romans would pronounce things (which is different than how, say, the Vatican, would do it).

For Roman Latin, it's:

"kus-toe-days"


Yup. Also, and I've never heard anyone but me go for the old neckbeardy latin pronunciation but I like it, it would be "skit-ahr-ee-eye" not "Skit-ahr-ee." And a singular one would be a Skitarius.


I'm pretty sure it's Skeet-ahr-ee as far as classical Latin goes, simply because Latin only ever pronounces "i" as "ee". Just like Spanish or French. (Honestly, if you just pronounce Latin as if it were Spanish you'd probably be correct, just turn the "j" into a "y" sound and the "v" into a "w" )

If you happen to be basing your pronunciation off of Total War though, then just know that they got it wrong. "Julii" for example would be pronounced Yulee, and Scipii would be Skeepee since there is no soft "c" in Latin. In fact Julius Caesar is pronounced more like Yulius Kayssar. (which is where the german Kaiser comes from)


No, I was basing it off conversations with my roman history professor uncle that I've had - Yulius Kaysar being another one I knew from beforehand.

I shall have to dig into this! I've been pronouncing it "Tri-ar-ee-aye" for years now!
   
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 Apple Peel wrote:

But are they the “Imperial Guard,” per say?


'Per Se' (Latin for "by itself"). Pronounced "per say" but not spelled that way. The irony of arguing over how words should be pronounced then doing it wrong anyway ... :p

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 chromedog wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:

But are they the “Imperial Guard,” per say?


'Per Se' (Latin for "by itself"). Pronounced "per say" but not spelled that way. The irony of arguing over how words should be pronounced then doing it wrong anyway ... :p

Bone appetite, I pronounced it the same though.

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 Apple Peel wrote:
 chromedog wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:

But are they the “Imperial Guard,” per say?


'Per Se' (Latin for "by itself"). Pronounced "per say" but not spelled that way. The irony of arguing over how words should be pronounced then doing it wrong anyway ... :p

Bone appetite, I pronounced it the same though.


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 Grimtuff wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:
 chromedog wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:

But are they the “Imperial Guard,” per say?


'Per Se' (Latin for "by itself"). Pronounced "per say" but not spelled that way. The irony of arguing over how words should be pronounced then doing it wrong anyway ... :p

Bone appetite, I pronounced it the same though.


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