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Wow. Those are... pretty significant increases. Jeez...

Obispudkenobi wrote:

 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.

Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....
People want to play, people love the fluff,people love the models, people love the hobby...just not enough to hand over the money to keep all that good stuff flowing.

If they are having an issue with 3D printing being a problem they wouldn't be selling out all the time. Plus GW was raising prices way before 3d printers were available to the average consumer. Hard to blame a 3D printer for what a company was and has been doing for decades.

Hopefully GW will get a good kick in the wallet, especially with great games out there like Star Wars Legion and A song of ice and fire, they got competition in both the sci fi and fantasy realms. Especially if you look at the start up costs nowadays for someone just getting into AoS or 40k. It is a hard sell considering wages in the US haven't gone up in forever.

The prices are high but I imagine everybody is buying gw at least 20% off.

Shipping costs keep rising, GW has to make up for that somewhere and people would groan if they had to pay actual shipping costs.

 Theophony wrote:
Shipping costs keep rising, GW has to make up for that somewhere and people would groan if they had to pay actual shipping costs.

Would they though? In the UK at least, GW's shipping rate is pretty much what you pay the Post Office as a pleb to send a package, and that's exactly how they do it except you imagine they get a pretty hefty volume discount - if anything the shipping cost now is a bit shonky since people paying the flat rate for small parcels are likely subsidizing the folk doing bigger orders that would cost more to ship. Besides which, third parties typically charge you the actual shipping, which is about the same as GW's price for smaller orders, and jumps up to 2 or 3 times that for bigger ones that have to go via courier.

This isn't about necessity, it's about optics - if they allow older kits to remain at their previous prices for too long, the modern kits start to look unreasonably expensive by comparison.

 Irkjoe wrote:
The prices are high but I imagine everybody is buying gw at least 20% off.

As gakky as it is this is the force behind it. GW is selling like gangbusters, so to slow it down they need to raise prices.

And let's be honest - with the regular eBay discounts PLUS coupons there were some stupid good deals.

The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.

Wow to all the people who are surprised that GW would raise prices.... are you new here? June/July has been the target date for the 'annual GW product Pound/Dollar synergy/ sku re-organization' since forever. The 2nd quarter ends in june, so hopefully a mid year 'product Pound/Dollar synergy' will give the stock price a little shot in the arm for years ends when they do their holy dividend that MUST be paid ( even so far as going to take out bank loans to pay it).

If you are new around here or think since Nu-GW and Mr Roundtree took ever that things will change, the more things change the more they stay the same.

Thank the God Emperor for 'other markets'

With that kind of hikes to the Greater Daemons, 3rd party companies like Creature Caster will probably make bank. Some of the price increases made me laugh though, like raising the cost of the completely neglected Tactical Squad, or Khorne Berzerkers.

Of course, all the recasters in China and Russia and other places will probably end up with new customers too. But that's a discussion for another site because the Dakka mods are kind of touchy about such talk (for good reason!).

I don't love it. And the percentage is higher than I'd prefer. It did get me to put in an order for some daemonettes I was planning on getting.

GW doesn't have to bump pricing currently. But it's not unreasonable to bump it. And it's better to bump now than when they are suffering.

Also if you think this is going to hurt them you're dreaming. They'll be able to slow down while they get their factory online and in a year or two no one will remember the price bump when they have all their new manufacturing capacity up and running.

Christ, you guys are taking what used to be a yearly increase on all products and losing your minds over a price increase over part of the range that spanned 2 years after what, 4 years of no increases outside of new product, and getting all grumped out.

TLR - Meh, I don't like it but I get it. And $6 here or there isn't going to stop me or most people from buying product.

Everyone is buying 20% off, therefore 10-15% price increase is ok.

Guess consumers never win, meanwhile there are people who isn't "everyone" just have to suck it up I guess.

I reckon GW hitting the new all time record high in stock this year also.

As long as we don't get hit with the same percentage increase down here I'm fine

is the list on the first page complete? Or are all products going up?

 Rolsheen wrote:
As long as we don't get hit with the same percentage increase down here I'm fine

We will eventually. We never escape this crap.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
As long as we don't get hit with the same percentage increase down here I'm fine

We will eventually. We never escape this crap.

actually couldn't it be that you down there are basically the first ones to get hit?

In a way you are allready had that last year right?

I can't remember last time I bought warhammer at retail price, usually pay wholesale around -25% off UK retail price, and recent value-kits (like Apocalypse detachments) allow to pay less than half than for individual squads.

So in my book GW initiatives compensate each other out. I pay MUCH less for large boxes, but much higher for individual kits, which are less numerous.

Brexit and pound/$ exchange rate drop might help, but I can't recall last time GW dropped prices. In 2004-2006 buying at US GW Store was cheaper than at UK, like 20% cheaper or so, nowadays it's been reversed.

I'm more concerned about Forge World, whether we will see a secret price increase, given their expert PR skills.

 CragHack wrote:
I'm more concerned about Forge World, whether we will see a secret price increase, given their expert PR skills.

At this point , the prices know only one way.
But then again i could care less about forgeworld, beeing priced out there along time ago and no more production of the units i wanted.

Also the new admech thingy costs more then a similarly sized LR variant. I recon there will be a price increase.

 Hulksmash wrote:


TLR - Meh, I don't like it but I get it. And $6 here or there isn't going to stop me or most people from buying product.

Just a note, a lot of basic building block units are going up in cost - Ork Boyz, Termagants, and Guardsmen are all going up 6 dollars each. That is a 17% increase to units that are for the most part large blocks of models. That to me is more tedious than individual units going up in price - you only need so many Leman Russ, or Hive Tyrants, but for some builds, 100 infantrymen is average, sometimes bordering on light.

Lucky me I have enough Guardsmen until such a point as the game scale bumps up to 5,000 points and they are 1ppm, but I for the most part nixed any plans of collecting a small Tyranid force with this news.

Anyone got the UK prices?

Are Wriathknights going to 80 or 85?

edit: seems like 85 judging by baneblade and Mortarion pricing on 140$ = £85

A more cynical view is that this hike comes a few weeks after the release of Apocalypse... which will no doubt have players wanting to increase their collection.

A sneaky way to increase their profits.

Better source on the tariffs

https://www.toynews-online.biz/2019/07/03/trump-halts-plans-to-hit-toys-with-suspension-of-300bn-worth-of-tariffs-on-china/?fbclid=IwAR2F1tR_G9DeHa7cCcGxEGC5KLSeJ8nmuV4gbylho8V8nE3ZuheCpST0ns4

 stonehorse wrote:
A more cynical view is that this hike comes a few weeks after the release of Apocalypse... which will no doubt have players wanting to increase their collection.

A sneaky way to increase their profits.

Ding ding ding we have a winner, there trying to pad the figures so there is no drop compaired to last year's increased financials. Because the problem of record profits is that shareholders etc expect the same the following year. I will predict now if there reports show another record year then these massive price hikes will become a regular occurrence alongside massive amounts of "Ltd" release boxes and a slew of new armies and products.

Because to keep profits up you need increased volume or increased margins and historically GW always chased the margins over volume. New GW went after volume with a slew of new armies and boxed game etc which worked out very well for them. However now it looks like there going for both or at least have a plan B incase volumes stagnate/drop by increasing margins as well.

As for people who say no worries lots of new armies are great I would point you towards AoS a game in which almost no released armies outside of Sigmarines and chaos have had a 2nd release of models and most of the original armies have not even had that. I would hate 40k to end up as Primaris v Chaos getting the lions share with the rest getting scraps every now and again.

A side effect of this is likely to be that the long awaited SoB release is an absolutely eye wateringly expensive army to start if your not fortunate enough to get a couple of the ltd release box sets that will inevitably mark there release.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.

Agreed, it's always one of the most absurd arguments. It doesn't matter if you get 20% off, it's still the SAME PRICE INCREASE.

SeanDrake wrote:
A side effect of this is likely to be that the long awaited SoB release is an absolutely eye wateringly expensive army to start if your not fortunate enough to get a couple of the ltd release box sets that will inevitably mark there release.

That was going to happen anyway. They're entirely new, and will be priced accordingly, regardless of what happens to old kits.

God i fear that if the 3rd rumored dex is indeed r&h / lost and the damned / traitor guard.

A horde army with those prices.


Big oooooffffffff

 stonehorse wrote:
A more cynical view is that this hike comes a few weeks after the release of Apocalypse... which will no doubt have players wanting to increase their collection.

A sneaky way to increase their profits.

If they just wanted to increase their profits, they would release kits they've had sitting on the backburner.

Not Online!!! wrote:
God i fear that if the 3rd rumored dex is indeed r&h / lost and the damned / traitor guard.

A horde army with those prices.


Big oooooffffffff

They'll probably be on par with Genestealer Cults; horde army with 'new model prices'.

 Arbitrator wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
God i fear that if the 3rd rumored dex is indeed r&h / lost and the damned / traitor guard.

A horde army with those prices.


Big oooooffffffff

They'll probably be on par with Genestealer Cults; horde army with 'new model prices'.

Yay, oh wait not yay.
Screw GW in this case:

I'll wait for anvil to finish their renegade line which allready looks better and is shaping up to look better then the new traitor guards.
AND CHEAPER

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
A more cynical view is that this hike comes a few weeks after the release of Apocalypse... which will no doubt have players wanting to increase their collection.

A sneaky way to increase their profits.

If they just wanted to increase their profits, they would release kits they've had sitting on the backburner.

Not really new kits have upfront costs and other oppertunity costs baked in that mean GW will make more money per sale on 5,10,15 or even 20 year old kits that paid off there moulds before most of the current player base was born/old enough to play. The old kits are at this stage all profit outside the couple of pence worth of plastic and the cardboard box in fact technically the box is probably worth more than the sprue.

The challange comes in increasing sales of the older often inferior quality plastic kits, if only there had been a way to do that recently