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 SkavenLord wrote:

Geez. I thought 70 gigs was on the higher scale of things. Highest ones that come to mind are CoD WW2 and Shadow of War at 100 gigs each, but those sounded like outliers. Haven’t even touched Doom or Tekken 7 due to the ludicrous installation size (60GB and 70GB respectively) for their length.

Only thing that comes to mind is the possibility that Cyberpunk pulled a Vermintide and made the scenery out of miles and miles of walkable entities, but then Divinity OS2 is around 60 without this issue,

Division 2 checks in at 80 something gigs, iirc. And the reason why I know this is because each time the game gets patched on the PS4, you need almost as much free space on your hard drive in order to patch the game.

Looking forward to the 9th. The timer I checked earlier suggested that Cyberpunk should be playable by the time I get home from work.

I'm seeing reports that XBox preloads have started.

Eumerin wrote:
I'm seeing reports that XBox preloads have started.

can confirm

I was told PC preloads start on the 7th.

 Dreadwinter wrote:
I was told PC preloads start on the 7th.

Correct. It's only the XBox preload that's started, so far. Playstation and PC owners aren't getting it yet. However, the fact that the game is preloading means that we can be confident that it's not going to get delayed again (not that I thought there was any real chance of that happening).

From Facebook:

Psst, pre-load for #Cyberpunk2077 is already available globally on GOG.com, Steam, Epic Games Store and Xbox!
On PlayStation, it becomes available 48 hours before the release (at midnight local time).

Reviews are coming out now. I watched two spoiler-free reviews on YouTube that both said the game was amazingly good. Both confirmed that there are bugs in the game, but their review copies were the pre-Day-1-patch versions. One confirmed that you can power your way through the main story in about 20 hours, but there is also a lot of side content with character stories and such. And that side content can impact the main story. The reviewer commented that when he reloaded an earlier save after beating the game and then playing another 20 hours of side content, he found his endgame options to be greatly changed, with up to six different endings that he could find.

Wednesday night can't get here soon enough.

This is the first game in years I'm excited to play. Too bad I'm moving and have to pack everything up! At least when I start playing it at the beginning of next year, there will be all the bugs worked out

Hehe, that was funny. Game finished preloading and the Play button in GOG Galaxy was ready to push. So, I pushed it. It loads an image of a junkyard and a subtitle from Johnny saying "Go back to sleep, Samurai. It's not December 10th yet!"

Edit: I can confirm that I am not a l33t hacker. Changing the date and time on the Windows clock did not allow the game to run. :(

Cyberpunk 2077 includes epileptic triggers - Cyberpunk 2077 Epileptic PSA.

I think it's good to have information out there about what specific parts of the game can trigger seizures. Just about every game these days has an epilepsy warning on it, so I'm sure most people ignore it at this point.

That said, I think the real truth here is that the game is actually just hijacking people's cybernetic implants.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I think it's good to have information out there about what specific parts of the game can trigger seizures. Just about every game these days has an epilepsy warning on it, so I'm sure most people ignore it at this point.

Warnings are fine, but this seems to have been a deliberate inclusion. From the article:

The headset fits over both eyes and features a rapid onslaught of white and red blinking LEDs, much like the actual device neurologists use in real life to trigger a seizure when they need to trigger one for diagnosis purposes. If not modeled off of the IRL design, it's a very spot-on coincidence, and because of that this is one aspect that I would personally advise you to avoid altogether. When you notice the headset come into play, look away completely or close your eyes. This is a pattern of lights designed to trigger an epileptic episode and it very much did that in my own personal playthrough.

I'm waiting to see what the reviews are like for the game running on an original PS4.
If the performance is really poor (or markedly different to the Pro/PS5 version) I might try and hold my breath and hold out!

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I think it's good to have information out there about what specific parts of the game can trigger seizures. Just about every game these days has an epilepsy warning on it, so I'm sure most people ignore it at this point.

That said, I think the real truth here is that the game is actually just hijacking people's cybernetic implants.

It enables the Microsoft tracking chip that has been introduced via the vaccine..

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I think it's good to have information out there about what specific parts of the game can trigger seizures. Just about every game these days has an epilepsy warning on it, so I'm sure most people ignore it at this point.

I imagine people with actual epilepsy issues don't ignore these warnings, and the game box has none. Apparently there is one in the EULA but...we all know what that means besides being an ass-covering.
I'm sure the game will be amazing to play, but CDPR continued to blunder it's way through the whole development when it comes to literally everything else, from crunch, through some refreshing anti-trans behavior to this actual medical danger. I know the company is polish but man.

so if you've got this game on Xbox you can set your region to new zealand and play already

BrianDavion wrote:
so if you've got this game on Xbox you can set your region to new zealand and play already

Hah. Just downloading the patch onto my Laptop now, 48 gigs and had to uninstall The Witcher 3 to download it lol

BrianDavion wrote:
so if you've got this game on Xbox you can set your region to new zealand and play already

Oops...

Sounds like someone screwed up.

The GoG version on PC is patching. From what people are saying, while the patch is around 9GB, it needs 65GB of free space to install. Steam users (and presumably Epic) can't patch until the launch. But the patch is also only supposed to be a couple of gigs.

Eumerin wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
so if you've got this game on Xbox you can set your region to new zealand and play already

Oops...

Sounds like someone screwed up.

The GoG version on PC is patching. From what people are saying, while the patch is around 9GB, it needs 65GB of free space to install. Steam users (and presumably Epic) can't patch until the launch. But the patch is also only supposed to be a couple of gigs.

The patch need 43 gigs free for me. Had to uninstall The Witcher 3 for it.

Well, did some research, looks like my 980ti will handle high settings pretty well. So... freed up space on my SSD (including witcher 3), ran various windows updates that popped today, updated my graphics driver to todays version, cleared my desk of a bunch of junk, and I'm ready to go.

Probably wouldn't have if WoW: Shadowlands didn't suck so much. But they've chopped up and minced the story to match their weird obsession with gating and grinding out multiple numbers to control when pvp players and raiders get gear, so... whatever. I'll play a game designed to be fun instead.

Less than one hour to go, and then I will be in Night City for the next four days!

GAH! My laptop crashed while downloading the patch! This was happening when I tried to download the FreeLC for Total War: Warhammer 2. Been trying to fix it by getting rid of Killer and everything. Grr!

I'll be playing on the original ps4 in PST timezone..so I cant play till 9 pm...sure hope there won't be some kind of huge patch.

The patch is 9.7 gigs by the way

Woof. As always with steam preloads, the last little bit slows to a crawl.

Finished dinner, took the dogs out, sat at my computer at 94% complete, and down to 1.2 MB/s. Have barely made it to 95% at 2.6 now.

The 60 Gig preload took about 20 minutes yesterday, now I feel so retro I've returned to dial-up speeds.

Been playing for about 2 hours now, it's great so far. Not even sure where to begin exploring though, the size is pretty intimidating.

 Sasori wrote:
Been playing for about 2 hours now, it's great so far. Not even sure where to begin exploring though, the size is pretty intimidating.

Yeah, there is a _lot_, even in the opening area (which you're kind of locked to due to a police crackdown, but the opening area consists of several neighborhood and a lot of sidequests- the one-eyed fixer makes a lot of calls to you as you just walking down the street).

My first side quest took a few tries, the enemies are pretty nasty and the starting armor and gun are garbage items.

Character customization (stats and perks) are pretty massive, crafting is unexpectedly... easy. I didn't expect to be able to build a sniper rifle on the street, but with decent weapons, the game changed a lot- possibly too much, as in Fallout 4 levels of dis-assembling ash trays and other junk and making a functioning gun.

Was trying for melee initially, did not go well. Stealth attacks are very good, when you can pull it off. Even minor gang fights, they cover their sightlines pretty well, and don't just let any random idiot walk up and murder them.

Found several alternate routes to objectives- the Technical stat is very good for going through locked doors, but there are sometimes other ways to get around to an objective (like go in another apartment and get on the other balcony.

Some side quests seem not doable 'after hours'- I was trying to get to a boxing match in Kabuki, but couldn't find an unlocked door to get in the building.

Not a fan of the driving, though that may be me, but I end up all over the road.

Character creation was interesting, especially for how little you see yourself in game. Needs some better options- full menus for more than just colors, rather than just clicking left or right to cycle through 20-30 options.
Tattoos need to be less all or nothing. Some aren't bad, but particularly some of the body tattoos are a whole splodge of unrelated ink.
Biggest thing with character creation is the lighting is weird. Colors do _not_ show up in character creation (there is a strong tint) the way they do in game.

On PC the driving controls are kind of suck. I find it counter intuitive and janky to direct my vehicle with a and d rather than just hold W or S and turning the mouse. Maybe if A and D came with acceleration it would make more sense, but they don't.

I understand Cyberpunk is based off of the tabletop RPG of the same name. Does this one try to integrate the mechanics of the tabletop, or does it just kind of do its own thing?

 SkavenLord wrote:
I understand Cyberpunk is based off of the tabletop RPG of the same name. Does this one try to integrate the mechanics of the tabletop, or does it just kind of do its own thing?

My understanding is that it's mostly the former. The TTRPG is used for lore and setting. The game itself is quite old (80s, and prior to this year it's last published edition was in 2005 and this years game is mostly a reprint as I understand it). I think it's a sort of classic and a forerunner to Shadowrun but not super popular anymore?

 SkavenLord wrote:
I understand Cyberpunk is based off of the tabletop RPG of the same name. Does this one try to integrate the mechanics of the tabletop, or does it just kind of do its own thing?

Largely its own thing (which is a good thing, as the PnP RPG is pretty dated and bad as far as mechanics go). The stat names are there, and a lot of the 'skills' (by which I mean perk trees) are attached to the same stats.

But it is mostly different. The stats in this game go to 20 (capped at 6 at character creation) And these give you various increases per stat point (Cool, for example, bumps sneak attack damage and detection time, Body increases melee damage with blunt weapons and gives more health, and other things)
2-3 perk trees are attached to each stat, where you pick up various bonuses (+10% health, immunity to fire, bonuses to crafted weapons, poison on knives, etc, etc. There's a lot) Perks have a minimum requirement with the main stat value (must have Cool 11 to take immunity to poison or whatever). There are frankly a lot of perks: 15+ per tree (some have multiple levels: +10%/+20%/+30% health, for example), 13-14 trees.

Like with the Witcher games, CD Projekt doesn't exactly go into the nitty-gritty of the mechanics. What the game doesn't spend a lot of time telling you is the perk trees also gain experience and levels. And these levels in the perk trees also give you passive bonuses or just extra perk points. So its worth doing a variety of things to get extra perk points- I definitely recommend hacking random objects as you wander around starting out. Distract and Ping are basically undetectable and non-hostile. Breach is undetectable if you succeed, but on a failure can trigger a lot of hostility. I think there is an XP cap on hacking low level stuff, but not entirely sure. Stealth is similar. I've gotten stealth XP from going undetected while hacking enemies, but I'm not sure I got it from hacking stealthed, or that I killed someone while being undetected. Across the street.

Watch out for cops, though. Even fights with hostile gangers can sometimes attract hostile police attention to you if they wander into the area, and NPCs wander a _lot_, and there are a lot of them. Civilians tend to crouch in place, but sometimes they run, especially when combatants get close. They don't seem to actively report you, but the game did mention a bounty system, and I don't know about anyone else, but my gunfire tends to be... inaccurate. Though I haven't killed any innocents yet. Uh.. as far as I know, anyway. Combat can be pretty hectic, and sometimes more enemies show up and there's barely time to grab loose loot and run.

Even on normal difficult I very much enjoy the fact that the best option is sometimes just to bolt.