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Then just wait until they release them...
   
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Do we know when's the release date ? The pre-orders are in, but I couldn't find any actual release date on Warlord's site.

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Shipping is early April I believe, so around then
   
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 ValentineGames wrote:
Then just wait until they release them...


And how long am I going to need to wait, oh great and wise one?



HudsinD - The release date is late April. There's a sentence to that effect in the pre-order bundle pages, though it's not where you would expect to find it.
   
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Eumerin wrote:
 ValentineGames wrote:
Then just wait until they release them...


And how long am I going to need to wait, oh great and wise one?.

As long as it takes.
No wargame exists that releases EVERYTHING on day 1. That's a fact you should be very well aware of.
Even the great almighty GW who can do no wrong don't release every single unit for a release.
   
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 ValentineGames wrote:
Eumerin wrote:
 ValentineGames wrote:
Then just wait until they release them...


And how long am I going to need to wait, oh great and wise one?.

As long as it takes.
No wargame exists that releases EVERYTHING on day 1. That's a fact you should be very well aware of.
Even the great almighty GW who can do no wrong don't release every single unit for a release.


Warlord has a track record of having a big roll-out, and then only releasing dribs and drabs for the new game over a long period of time afterward. So "just buy the game and wait until they release the other stuff you want" might be a bad idea. We have someone affiliated with the game who has been kind enough to post here and answer questions. Asking whether he knows the level of support that Warlord is going to provide - such as getting more ships out, along with the ship cards that we will apparently need in order to use them - is a very reasonable question to ask. Though based on what he's said so far, I'm guessing he doesn't.
   
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Unless you're planning to die before everything is released why rush? Just add what you want when it comes out.
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 ValentineGames wrote:
Unless you're planning to die before everything is released why rush? Just add what you want when it comes out.
My Hungarians didn't get a Pak36 for bolt action until a month ago. But I managed to survive


I know that GW isn't going to stop producing 40k. Warlord have a history of dropping games and lines. I'd like to have an idea of a company's plans into at least the short term future before I buy into a game. Not "just wait", cause next thing I know, its a dead game with an incomplete line in a non-compatible scale.

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Solution is simple - don’t buy Warlord stuff if you’re worried about indifferent support or the line being dropped. Their track record speaks for itself. And it’s not a realistic expectation that they’re going to come out in advance and proclaim ‘we’re going to ignore this game once we’ve bagged the release suckers!’.

Also, there’s no escaping those ‘bases’ that take up more volume than the ship on them are hideous.
   
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Might get the release/rules and use Micronaughts line from GHQ.

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They've only dropped games that did really badly. Such as the abysmal terminator game.
They've not dropped hardly as many games as the naysayers will say.

What I find funny is saying how warlord has dropped so many games yet GW has dropped... 10+ games in the past.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
But that comes down to double standards.

Warlord drops terminator and loses the licence to a samurai gane: warlord drop games all the time!!!111!!!
GW drops Gorkamorka, blood gulch, warmaster, inquisitor, bfg, necromunda, road warrior, mordheim, space crusade, warhammer fantasy, space hulk etc etc etc: WeLl At LeAsT wE hAz 40k!¡!

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I'm not sure how you missed all the people complaining constantly about the death of Specialist Games when they were gone, but, really, this isn't the thread for that discussion. Let's stick to discussing this release, not GW, please.

 
   
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Thanks again for the responses Matt. So can we expect a big scenario book? Really wished that Warlord was just keeping it to scenario play and releasing the ships accordingly, a Battle of the River Plate box or Pursuit of the Bismark set would be much better than the current set up in my mind. The Royal Navy fleet makes no sense from an historical perspective.

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I saw Victory at Sea at Warlord's GAMA booth. I really like the models, even the bases.

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From above, the bases look quite cool. The side view just kills them, though. They're way too thick.

 
   
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MongooseMatt wrote:
Hey there,

Incidentally, the playtest pack we were using for the Open Playtest is still available for download. Some caveats here though - this is not [i]the final version of the rules, nor is it final layout. Consider it a draft, as a lot has been changed since, the 'look' of the rulebooks is now completely different (better!), and the playtest pack did not include any of the (extensive) background text we wrote. However, you can get a feel of what the new rules are like, as well as their breadth.

https://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/VASPlaytestPack.zip


Just started skimming through it. Haven't had a chance to read the rules, but I did start taking a look at the ship lists. How comprehensive were the ship lists in this version? I'm asking because I noticed that the Unryu-class and (never completed) budget version cousin Ikoma-class carriers are missing.
   
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Eumerin wrote:
We have someone affiliated with the game who has been kind enough to post here and answer questions. Asking whether he knows the level of support that Warlord is going to provide - such as getting more ships out, along with the ship cards that we will apparently need in order to use them - is a very reasonable question to ask. Though based on what he's said so far, I'm guessing he doesn't.


I am afraid I am only the Rules Monkey - manufacture, marketing and sales is at Warlord (where we like it to be ).




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 ingtaer wrote:
Thanks again for the responses Matt. So can we expect a big scenario book? Really wished that Warlord was just keeping it to scenario play and releasing the ships accordingly, a Battle of the River Plate box or Pursuit of the Bismark set would be much better than the current set up in my mind. The Royal Navy fleet makes no sense from an historical perspective.


The large rulebook has plenty of scenarios, and I cannot imagine we will not do more. River Plate and Bismarck are all in there, along with many, many others.

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How comprehensive were the ship lists in this version? I'm asking because I noticed that the Unryu-class and (never completed) budget version cousin Ikoma-class carriers are missing.


You won't be disappointed - we put a _lot_ in, including aircraft and PTBs. There are, however, limits (!). All major bases are covered, however, along with a lot of really minor ones. The French fleet is in there, for example.

 Coolyo294 wrote:
I saw Victory at Sea at Warlord's GAMA booth. I really like the models, even the bases.


Cheers! The actual ship models were mostly done by us (by Mongoose Sandrine, who now knows more about WWII warships than she ever thought she would!). Warlord now has well over a hundred ship models that we built, and have already started working on their own.


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Someone was asking about VaS for non-VaS veterans - Warlord has just done a good summary of the rules:

http://www.warlordgames.com/victory-at-sea-game-overview/

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Sounds a lot like Firestorm Armada from that game overview. Minimum distance before turning, turns being 45 degrees, compulsory movement, initiative phase, alternating activations, firing arcs - sounds very reminiscent of Firestorm, which is fine by me as I find that game a lot of fun too. Really looking forward to this! Hoping I can strongarm my group into giving this a go. I absolutely love that it uses abstracted sight rules. Not being able to see as far as you can fire sounds very cool.
   
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I may actually pick up the starter set with some discount. Right scale for me.


Only thing I dislike is that Italians are not in the initial release. Leaving the possibly sexiest ships of the war out is just not okay with me, at all! That is like trying to play any WW2 game with Panther tank on the cover but said game missing Panthers, you just don't do that!

Although having the mighty "Furious Taco" in starter set does kinda remedy this.

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Thanks Matt!

What's the timeline for the release of the rulebook by itself?

I play...

Sigh.

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Sotahullu wrote:
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Only thing I dislike is that Italians are not in the initial release. Leaving the possibly sexiest ships of the war out is just not okay with me, at all! That is like trying to play any WW2 game with Panther tank on the cover but said game missing Panthers, you just don't do that!


The Italians are coming (the French too)!

 pancakeonions wrote:


What's the timeline for the release of the rulebook by itself?


I haven't got a date, but it will not be too long - it is being laid out right now.

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Matt, good to hear that both French and Italians are coming, any of the minor powers planned?

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MongooseMatt wrote:

The Italians are coming (the French too)!


Awesome !
The only complaint I'd have, right now, is that even the big fours have a pretty small selection of ships. We need more.

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 HudsonD wrote:
MongooseMatt wrote:

The Italians are coming (the French too)!


Awesome !
The only complaint I'd have, right now, is that even the big fours have a pretty small selection of ships. We need more.


Aside from the two New Mexico-class battleships (which, as I've already noted are a *really* odd pick for the first USN battleships), the starting assortment is a fair mix for a game roll-out. There are changes I'd prefer (an Illustrious-class, for instance, instead of HMS Eagle), but the New Mexicos are the only real "What the heck are they thinking!?" pick. The big question is the release rate of subsequent ships. I bought into Blood Red Skies at launch, and then had to wait quite a while for more fighters to be released.
   
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Well there is certainly going to be lot of arguments "this ship instead of that ship" as there is lot of ships.

But as there is someone answering questions:

How spotter planes are being represented, are there going to be models for those or just some tokens? Kinda interested as Japanese used lot of those.

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 ingtaer wrote:

Matt, good to hear that both French and Italians are coming, any of the minor powers planned?


We have already statted up some Dutch ships (needed for a couple of the historical scenarios), and we do have the full Russian list already written up - needs playtesting, and there is a lot of ground to cover before we get to them... but they are there!

Eumerin wrote:
The big question is the release rate of subsequent ships. I bought into Blood Red Skies at launch, and then had to wait quite a while for more fighters to be released.


From what I have seen, monthly releases are planned after the launch of the starter set.

Sotahullu wrote:


How spotter planes are being represented, are there going to be models for those or just some tokens? Kinda interested as Japanese used lot of those.


We did have these as models, and even worked the 3D up (they look kinda funky!). However, for now, they will be abstracted - they were not really adding anything for to the game to have them on the table so, for example, you can use a ship with the Aircraft trait to spot against an over the horizon stationary target, so long as there are no enemy planes nearby. ASW changes that, but you have changed the role of the aircraft in that regard (no 'opportunity' ASW missions, you have to plan for it!).

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I'm reviving this thread to announce that there's been an update on the release date. The game is now scheduled to come out in August.

https://www.warlordgames.com/warships-sighted-ready-torpedoes/?fbclid=IwAR2aH_q3q6Enz5NMAmljH1Q0xu71vTAqLyIdy6Mfg9xA7geCSHQA8laGEH0

There's also a World of Warships promotion now, too. Every item available for pre-order will come with a code for WoWS stuff, including - in some cases - ships.

Just in case you're interested in that game.
   
 
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