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 AduroT wrote:
Rihgu wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
iOS app updated. You can read the datasheets again and they added the Indomitus units now, duplicated five times for the Space Marines. They’ve got separate identical entries for codex marines and each non-codex chapter in one big long list.

Even with the update, I still get the "subscribe" or "use free app" page and if I try to subscribe it says "you're already subscribed! and it will renew on august 30th " (paraphrased), which is useless. Use free app and all the datasheets are locked.

Deleted and reinstalled app, still same issues.


It worked for me when I hit Restore Purchases.

Ah! That did work for me. Thanks!

Disclaimer: still not enjoying the app, but at least I can use it now.

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 LunarSol wrote:
gungo wrote:
GW should have been upfront and said this was a beta release and gave it away for the first 3 months as they worked on it.

Then in 3 months time when it’s mostly usable they could have added the subscription fee to it.

That would have gone over much better then this release. Even the 1 month free nonsense is to late to change people’s opinion.

I do think once several new features are added and bugs are fixed it will be a decent app.. but it needs about 3 months of dedicated work to fix... better search functions, sub categories for rules, working army builder with quick links and updated rules, mission point calculator.
Add those things and I’ll pay 4.99 a month... I would buy a years subscription if they dropped the price to 2.99-3.99 a month and fixed the above.


Honestly if 8th edition rules had been freely available it would be a fine beta. Subscription just gives you access to the builder like Azyr and going forward codex purchases unlock updates beyond the free 8th content.

Personally though, the codex organization is appalling. Intercessors not being in the Dark Angel codex because they're in Ritual of the Damned? That's a pretty clear sign of the kind of persistent loss of functionality without additional cost we can expect to see going forward. It's possible that the list builder properly gives us a real view of the faction, but as it currently exists, it feels very much like its design is shackled by a fear of losing codex revenue.


Yeah unfortunately the unit organization is not something they can ever change given that it's purpose is to force users to buy the expansion books to add units such as Intercessors to factions like Dark Angels. It's really scummy design and really just insulting to their customers who can see through the obvious greed going on here.

The only way this app becomes top notch is to dump all physical codex involvement, maybe charge a bigger fee for the subs, and make all rules available all the time on the app. But the dinosaurs afraid of the future still clinging to pointless dead trees make the money men unwilling to disconnect the two.


For the current subscription fee they could give the rules away for free and stop printing codices and what not... it would probably be a lot more profitable than trying to sell the books. At least the app would be arguably worth a 5.00 USD price tag.

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Who knows.. If the app turns out to be a runaway success for GW, there is no telling what might happen to the physical books eventually. I for one wouldn't mind if they went away, if for nothing else than environmental reasons. The world is already filled with bookshelves no-one ever reads anything from, most books just end up taking storage space once they have been read once. Even if these are rulebooks used for reference purposes, new edition spam will make em all obsolete anyway within a few years. All that wood could have been left to the forests.
   
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tauist wrote:
All that wood could have been left to the forests.


Nah, the wood still would have been cut down for housing and power poles. Besides, electronics bring their own environmental problems into the mix.

GW won't stop printing physical books for some time to come, and there's still a generation or two who wants it to stay that way, me included - I enjoy cracking my books open for a read, especially when I'm sitting where I've got nothing else to do. Although I do have electronic copies of just about everything these days. PDFs on a tablet (not a phone!) are good for taking to the FLGS, hardcopy books are more relaxing when around the house futzing about.

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They said they will update the rules in the app (advanced rules added and searchable). I did the update last week but nothing changed. I still have the linked google drive doc with basic rules, and i'm subscribed from the start. Is it my version that's corrupt or havent' they released the ruleset in the app?

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 wallygator wrote:
They said they will update the rules in the app (advanced rules added and searchable). I did the update last week but nothing changed. I still have the linked google drive doc with basic rules, and i'm subscribed from the start. Is it my version that's corrupt or havent' they released the ruleset in the app?


Fixing the core rules is supposed to be the next update, the last one was supposed to be fixing the typos in the stats.
   
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Yeah, it’s gonna take them a Lot longer to fix the other junk in the app.

 
   
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Core rules fixed for me. Much better! Now the app has a purpose! Now please make it work offline, at least for the free part, and then we are good.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/08/07/warhammer-40000-the-app-new-features/

This is more like it. There's an actual use for the free version now.
   
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Yep. Better. Seems it's lacking terrain features though? Presumably under subscribtion.

Next up: Army builder. Once that comes I'll try subscribtion and try this in practice. But at least now there's reason to use free version at least.

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The newest version has a Purge Strat in the Sisters list of Strats. I wonder how widespread that is?
   
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Didn't they claim the army list builder was coming in August, after they initially delayed it from July 11? Now it's back to "soon" again. Lol.
   
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no, army builder was always "soon"

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I was pretty sure at some point they said August. Could be wrong, they've pushed back their promises so many times now it's hard to keep straight.

edit: Nope, I was right, it was in August, as recently as July 24:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/24/warhammer-40000-the-app-out-now/

We know you’re eager to find out when Battle Forge is coming your way. It’s really soon – August, in fact!

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yukishiro1 wrote:
Didn't they claim the army list builder was coming in August, after they initially delayed it from July 11? Now it's back to "soon" again. Lol.


I guess the timeline was initially to spend all the time after launch doing development on the Battle Forge, but they had to scrap that when the launch was a catastrophe and it was all hands on deck to make it a bit less embarrassing.
   
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The thing that annoys me is that I think everyone can see the potential here.

Maybe outsourcing and covid had an impact on the app. I also can understand the pressures to get anything out instead of nothing.
But they are just not helping themselves with it not being right.

Army builder HAS to be good.
if they have any sense they will delay that until they are SURE it is right and then release. Even if it takes until september
   
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It's definitely not coming out in August at this point. Given what a complete disaster the app has been, they might be better off just rebooting it completely a couple months down the road when it actually is ready, with a different name, to avoid the prior terrible ratings.
   
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Scrap it and give us 40K Azyr.

 
   
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Just updated to the new version which supposedly includes the core rules, and now the app stopped displaying any datasheets!? I cannot access any entry. Not sure if me updating to the latest iPadOS 14beta4 has anything to do with it. Anyone else having probs?

I'll reinstall the app just to be sure
EDIT: Reinstalled the app. Still broken. I hope this gets fixed ASAP as I have an active subscription

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Works currently for me. Core rules are no longer just a link to a pdf but actually in the app.

 
   
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Apparently new pl is up for subscribed people after an update
   
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Dudeface wrote:
Apparently new pl is up for subscribed people after an update


Android user and yes they are.

I just looked at a few deathguard units..

Deathshroud 11pl --> 7pl (Down 4)
Blightlord Terms 14pl --> 11pl (down 3)
Plaguebearers 4pl --> 5pl (up 1)
Plaguemarines 7pl --> 6 pl (down 1)

So if the handful I looked at is anything to go by then lots of changes
   
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Doohicky wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Apparently new pl is up for subscribed people after an update


Android user and yes they are.

I just looked at a few deathguard units..

Deathshroud 11pl --> 7pl (Down 4)
Blightlord Terms 14pl --> 11pl (down 3)
Plaguebearers 4pl --> 5pl (up 1)
Plaguemarines 7pl --> 6 pl (down 1)

So if the handful I looked at is anything to go by then lots of changes


Which is great for me as a non-subscriber, since I'm forced to run my crusade on outdated PL now.
   
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The Sunday announcement made it sound like they'll be publishing the updated PLs for free, not just in the app. I doubt even GW would be incompetent and craven enough to lock the new PLs behind yet another paywall, and such a non-functioning one at that.
   
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Still not native for iPad.

   
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yukishiro1 wrote:
The Sunday announcement made it sound like they'll be publishing the updated PLs for free, not just in the app. I doubt even GW would be incompetent and craven enough to lock the new PLs behind yet another paywall, and such a non-functioning one at that.


They'll need to release a pdf document alongside, otherwise you can't open the datahseets in the app to check power levels, unless they decide to make the datasheets free to read with PL and you get points & other content when subscribed, which wouldn't be entirely crazy.
   
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The new Power Levels have been quietly added to an FAQ document accessible through the community page here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000
   
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Also some other handy changes like fixing loopholes with look out sir

12 factions for Lord of The Rings
4663
11772 pts(along with lots of unpainted unsorted stuff)
5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
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But they re-did the Saga of the Beast FAQ for the Ork Strat, but kept Space Wolves with ObSec for the entire army

Guess it is confirmed now, lol
   
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Confirmed that Gee-dubs still can't keep a to-do list straight. There is zero chance that is actually intended, they just forgot to fix it.
   
 
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