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 Insectum7 wrote:
Models is not what I care about right now. At the moment what I care about is the erosion of stats/identities/etc. of other armies in favor of marines.


This is true, but even standalone chapters may lose their identity (and all the primaris kits released so far kinda confirm that), especially if their supplement gets released several months after the SM codex. I simply refuse to play SW with a generic SM codex, I'll shelve them until I get the full rules.

I don't play SM.

Alternatively I can ask my opponent if he lets me play with 8th codex and SotB until I get the new supplement. That's why I think releasing supplements shortly after the codex it's actually a good thing.

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 Blackie wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:
Models is not what I care about right now. At the moment what I care about is the erosion of stats/identities/etc. of other armies in favor of marines.


This is true, but even standalone chapters may lose their identity (and all the primaris kits released so far kinda confirm that), especially if their supplement gets released several months after the SM codex. I simply refuse to play SW with a generic SM codex, I'll shelve them until I get the full rules.

I don't play SM.

Alternatively I can ask my opponent if he lets me play with 8th codex and SotB until I get the new supplement. That's why I think releasing supplements shortly after the codex it's actually a good thing.


I think they should release all the supplements at the same time as the codex. All the Supplement really is is an extra chapter so instead of buying one of 5 different book versions like they did with the Collectors Space Marine Codex a while back, you just buy the main book and the appropriate extra chapter.

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Frontloading power armour Codexes at the start of an edition is basically standard operating procedure and has been like that ever since I remember (back in 3rd)

Hell, the release schedule for that was Marines, Blood Angels, CSM and Dark Angels. The first non-power armour Codex was either Guard and Eldar. And this was in the days of waiting 2-3 months between Codex releases.
   
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C4790M wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Right, give me the release schedules and strip out the supplements since they're almost 100% guaranteed to be model free filler releases alongside something else.

You get:
Marines
Crons
Death Guard

Oh look it's a fair spread and thats over a 2 month window.

Unless you want all those precious none imperium books releasing with 0 model support just to rush them out in a 2 month window, quit whining.


You’re making 2 massive assumptions:

most of the supplements already released came with a new model

That all the xenos codexes will be getting models. I highly doubt that GSC for example will be getting more models this soon, tyranids haven’t got a single hint of a new model in a long time


I'm not assuming all xenos will, but if they were rushed in front of the supplements or into this year, the odds of it are dramatically reduced. Likewise it is possible there might be an upgrade sprue or something but that's probably it.
   
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I think I speak for every player when I say that I'd actually like Codexes to be rushed out without a corresponding model release.

I'd rather have a fully functional 9th Codex for my CWE rather than having to wait until next October for the range refresh.
   
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Basically they should have gone with the Index Imperium/Xenos/Chaos approach again.
   
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 Esmer wrote:
Basically they should have gone with the Index Imperium/Xenos/Chaos approach again.


Agreed - that was a good thing - especially if they could condense the data slates and include points as the old Army books used to do.

Sadly that just sells three books not lots...

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 Eldarsif wrote:
Although I am a bit tired of the glut of Power Armor(yet happy DG gets an early release) I do think there is a potential silver lining GW willing. With this last reveal of SM stuff they've kinda filled up all the slots for Primaris and made the Firstborn-Primaris upgrade a near future possibility. At this point the only thing they can release for Space Marines are character sculpts meaning that there should be design slots opening up for more non-Marine stuff.


I hate to pour salt on your candle of optimism, but I feel obliged to point out that Primaris only exist in the first place because GW already ran out of SM slots. Hence why they started making the entire range again, except bulkier this time.

Hence, running out of SM slots (even if true, which I highly doubt), doesn't mean no more SM releases. It just means GW contriving a reason to remake the entire line again.


 Alwrath wrote:
These Necron releases are HUGE. Cant wait to see what they do with Eldar/DarkEldar/Tau/Chaos/Tyranids etc next year.


Well quite. There must be at least one Dark Eldar HQ left that GW hasn't pointlessly remade in lieu of any meaningful release.

Or maybe we could get a release of Vect, except only playable in Marine armies. Because he's seen which way the wind is blowing and realises that Dark Eldar have no future. Best join the winning side while he still can.

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I hate to pour salt on your candle of optimism, but I feel obliged to point out that Primaris only exist in the first place because GW already ran out of SM slots. Hence why they started making the entire range again, except bulkier this time.

Hence, running out of SM slots (even if true, which I highly doubt), doesn't mean no more SM releases. It just means GW contriving a reason to remake the entire line again.


I am not cynical enough to think like that. I feel Primaris is Primaris because they wanted to truescale the models while simultaneously encourage buying of those units. The main thing that is missing Primaris equivalents now are bespoke Chapter units like Deathwing Knights, Black Knights, Furioso Dreadnoughts, and so on. It will be interesting if GW decides to go full on upgrading units that are maybe not as generic as the current Primaris units.

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There's been a persistant rumor that Primaris where first started under Kirby as a "yeah just replace Marine stuff" and that Rountree has attempted to "make the best of the situation"

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There's been a persistant rumor that Primaris where first started under Kirby as a "yeah just replace Marine stuff" and that Rountree has attempted to "make the best of the situation"

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Hahahahahahha it was bound to happen ! All those people that wanted supplement and not separated codex have what they wanted. GW cannot release SM codex and not the specific rule for all the chapters.
Get ready for 20 + new primaris release and a supplement for all the chapters. We're going to eat SM until 2022.

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WhiteDog wrote:
Hahahahahahha it was bound to happen ! All those people that wanted supplement and not separated codex have what they wanted. GW cannot release SM codex and not the specific rule for all the chapters.
Get ready for 20 + new primaris release and a supplement for all the codexes. We're going to eat SM until 2022.


I am both sympathetic and entertained by the people who now realize that means they may lose some of their divergent flavor.

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 CEO Kasen wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
....... did they cancell the necron codex release? people act like the only thing 9th edition has had thus far is power armor releases.


Giving some toys to one otherwise neglected faction isn't going to cure Marine Fatigue by itself if Marines are getting a comparable number of releases that seem far superior from the limited data we have.


*some toys*

it's closer to an entire re-release of the model line with lots of new models. It's ok to be frustrated at the burst of marine models, I don't agree, but different opinions make things fun. But to say "some toys" is diminutive and not at all represents the work they have done with Necrons that we have seen thus far.
   
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I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
   
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Seabass wrote:
 CEO Kasen wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
....... did they cancell the necron codex release? people act like the only thing 9th edition has had thus far is power armor releases.


Giving some toys to one otherwise neglected faction isn't going to cure Marine Fatigue by itself if Marines are getting a comparable number of releases that seem far superior from the limited data we have.


*some toys*

it's closer to an entire re-release of the model line with lots of new models. It's ok to be frustrated at the burst of marine models, I don't agree, but different opinions make things fun. But to say "some toys" is diminutive and not at all represents the work they have done with Necrons that we have seen thus far.


Its not really a burst of marine releases. More like a torrent. A torrent that's lasted nearly 3 years.

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When people complained about 9th about Marines the answer was that GW would surely release other codexes quickly. Now we know there is only Necrons for 2020.

And oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you if you think front loading all marines now means their will not be drip marine units released throughout 2021...

GW makes it clear, play marines or get out.
Think its time I look at AoS instead of finishing my GSC or Nids.

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ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
   
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 alextroy wrote:
ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
Necrons are getting a makeover.
And Marines still get more new units at the same time.

Why shouldn't a Xenos player feel like he is getting gak on?
   
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 Bosskelot wrote:
I think I speak for every player when I say that I'd actually like Codexes to be rushed out without a corresponding model release.
.


You don't speak for me. They just did the codex rush for 8th. It was a mess.
They did it again with PA. That was an utter mess.

I'd rather they did it properly.

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 Ordana wrote:
When people complained about 9th about Marines the answer was that GW would surely release other codexes quickly. Now we know there is only Necrons for 2020.

Necrons, Death Guard, and C: Space Marines plus three supplements.

Those three supplements mean that three codices have been taken out of the release schedule. In case you missed how supplements dropped last year, it was 2 per week with some kits to stagger out rather than frontload the Marine releases...but it remains to be seen whether that part will remain in play for this go-around. There are more kits this time around that are tied to the main Codex rather than supplements(last time it was Phobos LT, Eliminators, Incursor/Infiltrator box, single-pack release of Librarian and Captain in Phobos, Invictor Warsuit, and the Impulsor) which seemed to be how they opted to pad things out as otherwise the supplements were a single character and an upgrade sprue(unless you were Ultramarines, naturally!).

Given the size of Necrons and Marines for releases though? I wouldn't be shocked if these two go into December. Death Guard looks to have just the hero and the terrain piece plus maybe finally a Start Collecting set using the Dark Imperium components.

And oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you if you think front loading all marines now means their will not be drip marine units released throughout 2021...

lol, it's funny because people said that about psychic awakening too...yet the faction that saw the most releases was Mechanicus.
   
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 Ordana wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
Necrons are getting a makeover.
And Marines still get more new units at the same time.

Why shouldn't a Xenos player feel like he is getting gak on?


Because who cares if a faction you don't play gets something? Novel idea maybe a necron player should be happy at all their attention, as a primarily chaos marine player, it has no bearing on me how many units the marine codex has.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
 Ordana wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
Necrons are getting a makeover.
And Marines still get more new units at the same time.

Why shouldn't a Xenos player feel like he is getting gak on?


Because who cares if a faction you don't play gets something? Novel idea maybe a necron player should be happy at all their attention, as a primarily chaos marine player, it has no bearing on me how many units the marine codex has.


I'm a necron player. Have been from their first codex. I would have rather Eldar been the big focus of the 9th launch with revamped Aspect Warriors etc. I would have been happy if 9th Ed necrons was just plastic pariahs and flayed ones.



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 Sim-Life wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
 Ordana wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
Necrons are getting a makeover.
And Marines still get more new units at the same time.

Why shouldn't a Xenos player feel like he is getting gak on?


Because who cares if a faction you don't play gets something? Novel idea maybe a necron player should be happy at all their attention, as a primarily chaos marine player, it has no bearing on me how many units the marine codex has.


I'm a necron player. Have been from their first codex. I would have rather Eldar been the big focus of the 9th launch with revamped Aspect Warriors etc. I would have been happy if 9th Ed necrons was just plastic pariahs and flayed ones.


Very polite of you but again it doesn't stop Eldar having a big release. But if they do/don't it doesn't impact your army.
   
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Dudeface wrote:

Very polite of you but again it doesn't stop Eldar having a big release. But if they do/don't it doesn't impact your army.


Didn't realise GW have unlimited resources and overhaul multiple factions a year. The odds on Eldar getting a big revamp are very dramatically reduced due to the big necron release waves.



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 Ordana wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
ThePorcupine wrote:
I feel nauseous looking at this release schedule. There has to be a breaking point, right? The bubble has to burst. Is it when there are 200 marine units? 300? 350?

Holy god in heaven my fething harlequin codex has 8 units.

Like, even if xenos gets a codex, I expect so little. I'm guessing there will be no new units. Maybe 1. Not only do you typically get nothing if you're not marines. You often LOSE units. Every guard regiment that's not cadian or catachan gets discontinued?... What!?....

People always say "making new models is expensive! Just be happy with what you have!" but GW gaks out 60 new marine models every 3 days. Like, they're very very VERY clearly not hurting for money. They can redesign entire armies with the snap of their fingers. Cranking out one or two new models is like lifting a finger to them. They're giving marines dozens of new units nobody ever asked for and the range never needed.

Ugh... I sort of hate every marine player and at the same time feel really bad for them. How gakky would I feel if the game was literally nothing but catering to me in every way imaginable and giving me every busted unit and rule and obscene amounts of coddling and attention.

Don't mind me. Just usual salt.
*Looks at Indomitus and Command box Necron releases*
*Glances at upcoming Necron releases*
*Rereads post*

So many releases for a Xenos army must be an aberration. We haven't had a meaningful Xenos release like that since Genestealer Cults back in 2019.

Yeah, that is a lot of salt.
Necrons are getting a makeover.
And Marines still get more new units at the same time.

Why shouldn't a Xenos player feel like he is getting gak on?
Because not getting something isn't GW snubbing you. I'm a Sister of Battle Player. I have been since 4th edition. While I was never pleased that I wasn't getting plastic models all those years, I've never begrudged any faction a release. Why? Because they can't release something for everyone all the time, unless you want to see a one kit a year faction drip.

My reward for patiently waiting was a full faction renewal. While there are a few ancillary units in Codex Adepta Sororitas that are still hanging around from before, the range is in all new fantastic plastic kits. And GW got their reward when I refreshed all my infantry models with the new plastic kits and am now slowing expanding into units I never purchased before because of the nasty old metal kits.

Now it's the Necron's turn. GW is pushing out double digit new unit kits for Necrons including refreshed and new kits between Indomitus and multipart kits. I want this for every faction that doesn't have recent models or a decent range of models. Excluding the ever oppressive Space Marines, GW is now in the midst of the third major update or expansion of a faction this year. Sure, two were Imperial (Sisters and Adeptus Mechanicus) but they weren't marines.

Let's hope next years first Xenos is a big release also. It s a better us of your time and energy than whinging about the latest space marine release. GW got to pay those bills and nothing sells like space marines.
   
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It's amusing how many people claim that Death Guard are the same as marines in the same post that is complaining about how a necron release is not an eldar release.

Some codices are going to be first and some are going to be last. Space Marines are going to be both.

DG is objectively a rather good choice for an early codex because they have a really old one with many odd problems due to that age (cue: worthless legion trait) and because many of their signature weapons are upgraded versions of imperium weaponry which would turn into downgraded versions because they aren't getting auto-updated like many other armies are.

Having all marines reduced to supplements also means that the next slew of campaign books will not have to spend have its pages on reprinting datasheets with slightly different keywords.

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Right behind you.

Death Guard is an interesting choice, as I would personally have gone CSM...but I think that's next year or the year after and will be accompanied by the EC/WE being split out.

I'm personally hoping Death Guard at least see Havocs/Obliterators added to their roster. The new gent being a Daemon Engine buffer promises to be kind of interesting.
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
It's amusing how many people claim that Death Guard are the same as marines in the same post that is complaining about how a necron release is not an eldar release.

Some codices are going to be first and some are going to be last. Space Marines are going to be both.

DG is objectively a rather good choice for an early codex because they have a really old one with many odd problems due to that age (cue: worthless legion trait) and because many of their signature weapons are upgraded versions of imperium weaponry which would turn into downgraded versions because they aren't getting auto-updated like many other armies are.

Having all marines reduced to supplements also means that the next slew of campaign books will not have to spend have its pages on reprinting datasheets with slightly different keywords.


I couldn't agree more.

I'm really glad the DG are getting some early attention, they spent 8th with a codex that felt very rushed (Chaos Lord without DR......really?), and very few strategems, and they have a interesting style aesthethic. Considering how the format of 9th suits the DG's strengths, I expect them to be a yardstick for the strength of other codexes.

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When people complained about 9th about Marines the answer was that GW would surely release other codexes quickly. Now we know there is only Necrons for 2020.

And oh boy do I have a bridge to sell you if you think front loading all marines now means their will not be drip marine units released throughout 2021...

GW makes it clear, play marines or get out.
Think its time I look at AoS instead of finishing my GSC or Nids.


Interestingly enough there has been an increasing wave of 40k players to AoS in circles I am in; online and offline. I can't complain as I think AoS is a fantastic system and having more players in it is good and healthy.

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