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For sure the KS version on invader was a better deal but since you were pricing it vs retail I stuck there for comparison.

I don't think you'll ever get away from them having lots of scenarios as they're so heavily tied to the maps and units in each set (you can't really pick your own, you have to use what's listed to keep the balance). But I think there will be more voices asking for alt sculpts as the game should start seeing regular release cadence which will change expectations away from "we just want more Conan" to people actually asking for what they want. The Beyond the Monolith stuff was an interesting idea but really poorly executied and even more poorly done on KS trying to have an odd mix of MBP and Conan. I really struggled to justify the cost on that one as I had no interest in the game mode.


In MBP news they posted an update on the survey that went out in march and everything for the game except one specific book (in French) will be reprinted. This should also include having things in the new webstore post KS delivery so if you want to pay a higher price and not deal with KS as a platform then you can.

Also launches tomorrow. 3PM EST (think that's 6pm GMT).

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Nice, glad to hear that they are reprinting a lot for MBP.

Amy recommendations for what the sweet spot is of boxes to get? I'm not invested in the setting much, but my kids are currently on a Greek mythology kick, so it could be fun.
   
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I'm not the most reliable source of opinion on things to go for, being as I ended up on a Greek Mythology kick, too and got everything...

The main expansion boxes are good, most of them include another double sided board and new ways of playing the game. As for value, depends on whether you want gameplay and extra "gameplay cool" units or whether you simply must have your favourite Greek hero to play with.

Hephaestus expansion gives you a board and scenarios, but I grabbed it for Prometheus.

Hera expansion gives you a board and scenarios with campaign progression and a bit of levelling up. I just got it for Perseus.

Poseidon gives you battles at sea, but seriously? How can you not get a box that includes not only Poseidon, but also Scylla and Charybdis?!

The titans box is often criticized for just having minis (although it does have some single player scenarios), but they're hardly minis! Kronos and Typhon? Yes, please.

A lot of people will recommend small boxes like Heroes of the Trojan War for price/gameplay value, but I like big imposing stuff on the board.
   
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 Chillreaper wrote:
I'm not the most reliable source of opinion on things to go for, being as I ended up on a Greek Mythology kick, too and got everything...

The main expansion boxes are good, most of them include another double sided board and new ways of playing the game. As for value, depends on whether you want gameplay and extra "gameplay cool" units or whether you simply must have your favourite Greek hero to play with.

Hephaestus expansion gives you a board and scenarios, but I grabbed it for Prometheus.

Hera expansion gives you a board and scenarios with campaign progression and a bit of levelling up. I just got it for Perseus.

Poseidon gives you battles at sea, but seriously? How can you not get a box that includes not only Poseidon, but also Scylla and Charybdis?!

The titans box is often criticized for just having minis (although it does have some single player scenarios), but they're hardly minis! Kronos and Typhon? Yes, please.

A lot of people will recommend small boxes like Heroes of the Trojan War for price/gameplay value, but I like big imposing stuff on the board.


Thank you, your brief summaries are very useful.

It feels like an entire product line I'm being asked to purchase in one go, going to have to fight my comoletionist tendencies if I decide to pick it up. I will definitely get the heroes of the Trojan War, and then one big expansion. I'm leaning towards Hera due to the campaign system, but family members are big Poseidon fans...
   
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Since pretty much the whole line will available direct from Monolith for the first time post Kickstarter you don't have to purchase everything. I don't know if they're even planning on having KS exclusives anymore. We'll find out more before the campaign ends
   
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What do you mean "you don't have to purchase everything"?

What is wrong with you?

Seriously, though. If you want a Greek mythology game which is a combination of skirmish game, drafting game with a bit of chess level concentration requirement, then just go for the base game (with the associated Pandora's Box). It's got enough content to keep things varied for a year or two of dedicated play and far longer for a more casual approach. It's also probably got 80% of the Greek characters that you'll want. If you happen to be the world's biggest fan of Periphetes, then grab all the addons that catch your eye.

I think that I've got enough content to last me the rest of my life...

Having only a layperson's familiarity with Norse mythology, I'm hoping that Ragnarok's base game and stretch goals will have me covered. I doubt that I'll feel the need to go too heavily on this one.

Famous last words and all...
   
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 Monkeysloth wrote:
Since pretty much the whole line will available direct from Monolith for the first time post Kickstarter you don't have to purchase everything. I don't know if they're even planning on having KS exclusives anymore. We'll find out more before the campaign ends


Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks. Takes the pressure off, but likely means less of a discount, which is a trade off I'm fine with.


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 Chillreaper wrote:
What do you mean "you don't have to purchase everything"?

What is wrong with you?

Seriously, though. If you want a Greek mythology game which is a combination of skirmish game, drafting game with a bit of chess level concentration requirement, then just go for the base game (with the associated Pandora's Box). It's got enough content to keep things varied for a year or two of dedicated play and far longer for a more casual approach. It's also probably got 80% of the Greek characters that you'll want. If you happen to be the world's biggest fan of Periphetes, then grab all the addons that catch your eye.

I think that I've got enough content to last me the rest of my life...

Having only a layperson's familiarity with Norse mythology, I'm hoping that Ragnarok's base game and stretch goals will have me covered. I doubt that I'll feel the need to go too heavily on this one.

Famous last words and all...

Yeah, I need to watch some battle reports and see if the game is a style I could enjoy with the family. To much brain burn and it isn't tenable.

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 Gallahad wrote:

 Chillreaper wrote:
What do you mean "you don't have to purchase everything"?

What is wrong with you?

Seriously, though. If you want a Greek mythology game which is a combination of skirmish game, drafting game with a bit of chess level concentration requirement, then just go for the base game (with the associated Pandora's Box). It's got enough content to keep things varied for a year or two of dedicated play and far longer for a more casual approach. It's also probably got 80% of the Greek characters that you'll want. If you happen to be the world's biggest fan of Periphetes, then grab all the addons that catch your eye.

I think that I've got enough content to last me the rest of my life...

Having only a layperson's familiarity with Norse mythology, I'm hoping that Ragnarok's base game and stretch goals will have me covered. I doubt that I'll feel the need to go too heavily on this one.

Famous last words and all...

Yeah, I need to watch some battle reports and see if the game is a style I could enjoy with the family. To much brain burn and it isn't tenable.


As somebody who hates learning more rules I found MBP to be very intuitive and easy to play. It looked a little intimidating with all those character dashboards, but running the game and keeping all your skills and options in mind wasn't hard. The real devil is the setup and tear down time.
   
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They announced in January that they're finally opening a webstore, once Conan is delivered.


It is time! By mid-year, once all Conan: the Conqueror pledges are delivered, we will be opening the online store we've been working on for some time. It will offer products from several ranges, in limited quantities, as well as new products. We're not planning to make it just a clearance or pre-order space but give it a life of its own. It is also part of a more comprehensive restructuring project for our pledge manager and our after-sales service, which will be overhauled this year. We point out in advance that there are no plans, with very specific exceptions, to make the products available on our store at a price lower than that which was theirs during our campaigns. We want our early supporters to be most rewarded. Likewise, pre-orders will not offer a lower price than campaigns.


Since they'd been a KS only company since the failure of OG Conan in retail (MBP was planned but dropped once they saw how Conan struggled) so several things for MBP are listed as KS exclusive. We don't know how they'll deal with that but I have a feeling that they'll just sell everything as that seams inline with some things we've heard. The store is a very long requested thing from fans and I think is part of Fred's new found enthusiasm post his partners leaving (which sunk it) and Conan's very good KSer vs his expectations.

It's unfortunate that MBP didn't hit retail but what stung Conan, so many KS exclusives that most of the scenarios made available for the game weren't playable, could have affected MBP even though MBP is a draft team builder and Conan is use what the scenario said. So much stuff was KS exclusive in MBP that I don't know how well it would be received. CMoN did exclusives right by making the vast majority of them just alternate skins (which is honestly what the majority of Zombiecide stuff is even if there are cards for each survivor) with very little that affect gameplay.

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Up and funded.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/mythic-battles-ragnarok/description

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Well then.

I wasn't expecting it to be up for another 35 minutes and it's already funded? Wasn't as if it was a tiny little funding goal, either.

Not bad!
   
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$135 is a bit more then I was expecting for the base MBP pledge but it's still pretty good when you loot at what comes with it. Atlas alone would be a over $60 if it was an official D&D figure in retail.

Also nice to see all the add ons from the begning.

Wonder if they're going to redo Loki as people really hated it on FB. They wanted MCU Loki and Monolith said they'd consider doing a slight rework on the pose.

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Really liking some fo the gods - Freya, Loki and others - but a few look a bit stiff

Think will get the core set at least


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The only one that looks bad to me is Heimdall. Outside of that I think the poses are all find considering the constraints of plastic and keeping costs reasonable.

This is looking to beat Conan the Conqueror's total in just the first day. MP was always their most popular internal IP.


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adding in all the unlocked SGs so far:










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Have to say, I'm pretty underwhelmed by the miniatures on offer this time round. I have everything from Pantheon and quite a bit of it still untouched... so do I really need what is essentially another expansion to that? I'll throw a dollar at it for pledge manager access, but unless I have a bunch of money spare at the time it closes I think I'll be skipping this.
   
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I'm in for a dollar as well...not liking a lot of the art directions (esp Grendel and Grendel's mommy) on many of the gods and monsters.

OTOH, the Svinfylkingar, Norns and Freya are outstanding.

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I'm not keen on Grendel's mom, think they dropped the ball there, but I like Grendel himself. Not a fan of Mirmr either but so far that's 2 SG that I don't like which isn't that bad.

Skadi is unlocked.
   
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Skadi and Tyr are cool. I also don't mind Grendel and Mother. I really like Mimir and the Norns.
   
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The Norns are great when you get in there and look at how the sculptor positioned all 3. Sakdi and Tyr are also the best base set Gods right now but I don't dislike any of them. Loki could use some translucent spell between his hands but it's minor.

also recruitment cards unlocked (allow for various army drafting methods) with Drauger on deck at 35k more. They're lowering the SG amount as things slow down.



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Good to see they are slowing stretch goal gaps. This has to be blowing away their expectations.
   
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Yes. It's doing way better then the original if you look at kicktraq. But Ragnarok has an all in from the start and I don't think that added that to Pantheon until much farther into the campaign. If they add a list for MBP add ons during the campaign they could go way past what they have designed and that could cause delays if they add stuff which they don't want to do (which is why I think they're not committing to showing those until the PM).

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/806316071/mythic-battles-ragnarok/#chart-daily

https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/806316071/mythic-battles-pantheon/#chart-daily

Few other things we know:

Ymir is going to be an add on and made available with MBP stuff is available.

An all in MBP + MBR pledge will come sometime

They've confirmed that Mythic Battles Egypt is next (this was expected) you can see the logo on the card sleeves.



there's something else Viking related coming from Monolith after this KS that fills in some areas that MBR doesn't cover.
here's one viking aspect we plan on exploring later because we want to take all the time needed to make this aspect works perfectly.


The response was a bit vague and may not be related to MBR at all but might have a packs that's sold for it. It was in response to more MBR stuff not via KS so could be they're planning for an expansion via their webstore. They're not covering Navel battles so it could be that as lots of people have been asking for it.

They went from saying NO to solo mode to we can't say no or yes. If they're changing their mind on that I guess it would mean Matt John coming up with the rules as he did the very well received Solo/Co-op mode for Conan. But I wouldn't back for an unannounced game mode if that would be something to cause you to pull the trigger on this.

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Anyone spot anywhere as to whether UK VAT and duties will need to be paid by the customer, or are included in the shipping estimates? They mention on the main page that EU VAT is already included in the shipping...

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It's included in the base cost of each item.


YES, for EVERYTHING available during the Kickstarter Campaign and the Pledge Manager, VAT and US Sale Taxes are included. No Pledge Manager surprise; we take care of these costs as we always have.



UK Importation taxes? How do you plan on dealing with this potential issue?
We plan on using a UK based distribution hub to ensure that our UK backers don’t fall foul of the confusion surrounding Brexit.



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Drauger unlocked (sad this isn't a troop) with Hyrrokkin next.


Seams to be a big model for 1m as she's riding a stone/ice wolf from the looks of it and is a Jottun if I remember correctly. Also sculpted by Aragorn Marks too.



Yep. pretty cool Giantess. from wikipedia
The gods then enlisted the help of Hyrrokkin, who came from Jötunheimr, arriving on a giant wolf with vipers as reins.



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And unlocked. Rather a massive miniature. Not sure how much I like it. I like each part separately (snake wolf is pretty cool) but I do tend to dislike mounted figures as they limit reuse in other games.







Light elves are next.

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Cool. Thanks Monkeysloth!

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Light Elves have been unlocked and they're a really cool design.

Spoiler:


Sigmund as well. He's kind of turning into a werwolf so I'll attach and image.

Spoiler:


Utgarda-Loki is next.


I do find it interesting that the only god unlocked so far is Tyr. Makes me wonder if they're going to have another addon that will go into the all in for free to tempt people with more gods?

Also they've confirmed that the prices for MBP in the reprint survey are what's going to be in the PM. You can look over those in the link and see if there's anything you want. You could add that now to a pledge or wait.

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Skadi is another SG God, so there’s 2 so far.

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I am pretty well pleased! Went all in, since I kind of liked the Greek Pantheon game, and the models were nice, even if some of the troops were a bit flat.

@Galahad: Regarding brain burn, the game isn't too bad for that. One thing I found though is that the models are really nice for Of Gods and Mortals from Osprey. That's a decent little game, if a little too simple, and the Mythic games provide wonderful models for it.


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Utgarda-Loki is unlocked with Njord on deck (and likely to unlock today). With them still hitting 2 unlocks a day I'm beginning to think that maybe Monolith has a lot more SG planned then I though (I figured around 25) as they're really not spacing them out too much outside of Hyrrokkin which is understandable due to the size. but the last 4 have been either 35k or 40k.

As for the Giant that outsmarted Thor and Loki, well....





I think it's a bit off, especially on the hand holding the horn. It just doesn't look like the horn is actually being gripped but placed there. A slight change to the hand and wrist (maybe angling it a bit) would make a bid difference.

the concept art in the spoiler is a better ovall pose
Spoiler:





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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Skadi is another SG God, so there’s 2 so far.


yes, I forgot about Skadi thank for the correction.

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 Wehrkind wrote:
I am pretty well pleased! Went all in, since I kind of liked the Greek Pantheon game, and the models were nice, even if some of the troops were a bit flat.

@Galahad: Regarding brain burn, the game isn't too bad for that. One thing I found though is that the models are really nice for Of Gods and Mortals from Osprey. That's a decent little game, if a little too simple, and the Mythic games provide wonderful models for it.


Thanks, that is good to know. The more the brain burn, the harder it is to find opponents.
   
 
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