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 Matt Swain wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Matt Swain wrote:
I'd like to see reason return, but i'm afraid if it does it'll have to be riding a fist.

Can you really call it reason if you have to impose it violently? I guess there's folk who think Stalin was a great bloke.

I wouldn't say it's turning away from reason so much as a growing distrust of the media and politicians.

Sometimes it takes force to stop people from imposing insanity and ignorance on others.

So not so much reason as YOUR reason.

 Just Tony wrote:

 Matt Swain wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Matt Swain wrote:
I'd like to see reason return, but i'm afraid if it does it'll have to be riding a fist.

Can you really call it reason if you have to impose it violently? I guess there's folk who think Stalin was a great bloke.

I wouldn't say it's turning away from reason so much as a growing distrust of the media and politicians.

Sometimes it takes force to stop people from imposing insanity and ignorance on others.

So not so much reason as YOUR reason.

Agreed, using force to stop people is a very slippery slope. Might makes right is never a productive philosophy.

Just charming.

The pro lockdown crowd is frothing themselves up nicely to commit a violence.

Which is odd when they own the status quo, dissention against, and even the questioning of which is verboten.

Reason through force is an oxymoron. It ceases to become reason, and becomes authoritarian.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Which is odd when they own the status quo, dissention against, and even the questioning of which is verboten.

Reason through force is an oxymoron. It ceases to become reason, and becomes authoritarian.

I suppose you have some sort of bizarre definition of 'status quo' that doesn't include things like which political groups tend to be in meaningful seats of power around the world, huh. Just the pesky opinions of the majority of people who'd like to be able to get back to their lives sometime this decade.


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 Argive wrote:
I just want to be able to go for a gym, swim and sauna sesh for a couple hours at the weekend... Then go out for a nice juicy steak with all the trimmings and a nice ice cold pint with my woman.

Have been working all through lockdown. No working from home. No furlough no nuffin. I just want to at least be able to enjoy the fruits of my labour..

^This right here. We've got a fairly pretty pile of cash at this point and as soon as we're able, we're planning on thanking our lovely government for the great handling of this whole situation by spending 100% of the amount of it we plan to spend in another country.


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 Just Tony wrote:
What I'm hoping for is that the final steps to fixing my credit are successful and that we get to buy a house by May.

Good luck pal. One of the nastiest surprises of trying to buy a house is that my insane, irrational fear of spending money that I don't have and leading a completely debt-free life had resulted in me having zero credit score at all.

Basically I was able to build alternative lines of credit by showing that I'd been renting for 4 years and had never missed a payment, and had been paying utility bills for the same amount of time without ever missing a payment. Dodged a real bullet.