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 DeathReaper wrote:
Yes he was, as I have shown.

I have demonstrated it, but here it is again: "when selecting a target" and "when an enemy unit targets" Is the same time.

When a unit selects a target, is when an enemy unit targets.

That is not a demonstration; that is merely an assertion. When you put the quote in before, the quote was only dealing with one of the two things being compated; not both. You never offered any evidence to back up your assertion that both were the same. Come back when you actually have proof to back up your statements.

 doctortom wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
Yes he was, as I have shown.

I have demonstrated it, but here it is again: "when selecting a target" and "when an enemy unit targets" Is the same time.

When a unit selects a target, is when an enemy unit targets.

That is not a demonstration; that is merely an assertion. When you put the quote in before, the quote was only dealing with one of the two things being compated; not both. You never offered any evidence to back up your assertion that both were the same. Come back when you actually have proof to back up your statements.

False, it is not an assertion.

The English language backs up my statements. If you cant tell that "when selecting a target" and "when an enemy unit targets" Is at the same time, then I cant help you.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 doctortom wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
Yes he was, as I have shown.

I have demonstrated it, but here it is again: "when selecting a target" and "when an enemy unit targets" Is the same time.

When a unit selects a target, is when an enemy unit targets.

That is not a demonstration; that is merely an assertion. When you put the quote in before, the quote was only dealing with one of the two things being compated; not both. You never offered any evidence to back up your assertion that both were the same. Come back when you actually have proof to back up your statements.

False, it is not an assertion.

The English language backs up my statements. If you cant tell that "when selecting a target" and "when an enemy unit targets" Is at the same time, then I cant help you.

"When selecting a target" means you're still going through the process of choosing a target, choosing a weapon profile (if there are weapon profile choices), etc. "When an enemy unit targets" means the shooting unit has already gone through this process. That is definitely not simultaneous no matter how much you want to deny it.

"When selecting a target" includes "When an enemy unit targets" It is all a part of the process.

 DeathReaper wrote:
"When selecting a target" includes "When an enemy unit targets" It is all a part of the process.

"in your Shooting phase, when selecting a target for a THUNDERFIRE CANNON model". You're still selecting the target and appropriate profiles.

when an enemy unit targets an IMPERIAL KNIGHTS VEHICLE" The Knight has to already be targeted for it to know that it's the target.

Completely different, no matter how much you deny it.

And around we go again.

 DeathReaper wrote:
"When selecting a target" includes "When an enemy unit targets" It is all a part of the process.

I'll ask again for clarity's sake: are you saying in the case of two stratagems, one that activates "When selecting a target" and one that activates "When an enemy unit targets" we would invoke sequencing to determine which resolves first?

Slipspace wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
"When selecting a target" includes "When an enemy unit targets" It is all a part of the process.

I'll ask again for clarity's sake: are you saying in the case of two stratagems, one that activates "When selecting a target" and one that activates "When an enemy unit targets" we would invoke sequencing to determine which resolves first?

He's saying they happen at the same time. If you had both declared, they'd have to be sequenced according to what he asserts.

 doctortom wrote:

Slipspace wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
"When selecting a target" includes "When an enemy unit targets" It is all a part of the process.

I'll ask again for clarity's sake: are you saying in the case of two stratagems, one that activates "When selecting a target" and one that activates "When an enemy unit targets" we would invoke sequencing to determine which resolves first?

He's saying they happen at the same time. If you had both declared, they'd have to be sequenced according to what he asserts.

He knows he is wrong, but cant admit defeat.

Methinks this thread has served its purpose.