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 Togusa wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
There is no way that a codex would show the FW avatar. If accurate I could see the kit making 2 versions.

Male/Female Kaine actually makes me incredibly interested in this rumor. I hope it comes true.

Yeah actually that part - an avatar of Morag-Heg makes it more likely to me. A large Avatar kit giving multiple builds of different gods/as[ects of Khaine would mirror the greater demon kits and let GW sell multiples. It all sounds exactly what eldar need, the Hierarch type seems to be. return to the second ed Exarch. In fact it all seems to be very 2nd ed flavour and could bring back the Eldritch side of the Eldar which, to me, is much needed.

Hopefully we get some confirmation - even just a few potato cam shots or something [I actually wouldn't want a full spoiler ]. But the thing is previous big, detailed rumour dumps have just been wish listing/trolling - been burned before!

The original reddit post & account have now been deleted, so I'm not holding my breath for any proof.

 xttz wrote:
The original reddit post & account have now been deleted, so I'm not holding my breath for any proof.

So no picture proof.
This lowers the probability of this being genuine from successfully making a 12" charge to a 13" charge.

Skeptical.

Would be nice if most of its true.
God knows it might help me with motivation. Cant remembrr lats time I picked up a brush :(

Yeah shame.. could be copying B&C post or could be getting heat from whoever showed them the codex if it is true. GW would go ballistic if they backed up that rumour with images as well -would spoil a massive preview release if it is true.
I hope it is- would give Eldar a real boost model wise. Not holding my breath though..

The area that gives some tiny bit of plausibility is the description of new kits. If Eldar are getting a huge range update, GW would never just replace old kits with new ones, that's not their way. They'd inject the line with lots of new kits to attract old and new customers alike.
Regardless, Eldar are my 2022 project with no budget for the new kits.
Based on what they did with the Lumineth, I'm very optimistic about what we're going to see.

Now, do I finish the 3 Vypers that I've had in boxes for years? lol

Deleted the rumour before posting the proof he said he could get. Suggests it's a fake.

Way too detailed to be "I could look at some notes for a few minutes" and not detailed enough to have an actual copy.

If any of this comes true, it is by chance.

a_typical_hero wrote:
Way too detailed to be "I could look at some notes for a few minutes" and not detailed enough to have an actual copy.

If any of this comes true, it is by chance.

Yeah, it is fake. But for different reasons.

The redditor claimed to have seen the codex for 30 minutes and made notes immediately after the session. If somebody would give me an unreleased codex for an army that I or someone in my gaming groups plays, I would be able to extract way more details. Minus points costs and irrelevant relics/stratagems it would be almost complete.
The one thing that seems fishy, though, is, that he remembers the names of the psychic power verbatim. This seems odd.

 Vovin wrote:
The one thing that seems fishy, though, is, that he remembers the names of the psychic power verbatim. This seems odd.

To play Daemon's Advocate a minute, some players focus on different things. Back when Games Day was in Baltimore, I remember getting to look at an unreleased codex or army book as a preview for a few minutes. I was focusing on the photos of the models while my friend was more focused on the rules. OP could just be an Eldar player who's used to playing Psyker heavy and that's what they paid more attention to.

It's just a theory...

whereas i don't have any feel for whether this is a real leak or not

i could well see somebody in one of the playtesting teams showing off to a friend by letting them see a copy of a forthcoming codex (check it out bro, isn't this cool, they're totally listening to our suggestions),

but NOT allowing the friend to photograph it (WTF dude, GW mark these so they'll know it was me that leaked it if they see a photo, no i don't know what bit the mark is hidden in so no photos)

so while it may or may not be real, not having photos to go with it isn't a deal breaker

What this guy is suggesting he saw with full pictures and everything doesn't sound like any playtest document I've ever seen.

The name of the warp spider exarch seems like a corruption of the Irish Gaelic word for 'spider' which is pretty on the nose. But then GW did pretty much take gaelic festival names wholesale for several craftworlds.

I think part of the problem is people just don't think GW don't have it in them to do something this good. The Eldar need this and it would be brilliant for the faction. I'd pay a delicious wad of cashino for a taste of it.

I think the smart thing to do would be to do something with a different Craftworld now that Biel-Tan is buggered.

 Da Boss wrote:
The name of the warp spider exarch seems like a corruption of the Irish Gaelic word for 'spider' which is pretty on the nose. But then GW did pretty much take gaelic festival names wholesale for several craftworlds.

That, and Ferrus Manus

 Olthannon wrote:
I think the smart thing to do would be to do something with a different Craftworld now that Biel-Tan is buggered.

With Aspect Warriors being the most likely new models in any Eldar update I could still see a focus on Biel-Tan, especially when they're heavily intertwined with the initial Ynnari fluff. Being virtually wiped out didn't stop Blood Angels getting new content afterall...

 xttz wrote:
The original reddit post & account have now been deleted, so I'm not holding my breath for any proof.

Yeah just saw that.

We were never getting any pictures...

 Platuan4th wrote:
What this guy is suggesting he saw with full pictures and everything doesn't sound like any playtest document I've ever seen.

Well, he actually claimed it was the full printed codex:

I’ve seen the printed Codex Craftworlds back to back for about half an hour

But that just makes it less likely.
Now maybe GW secretly does 'advanced reader's copies' (like real publishers do for editing and reviews), but I've never seen anyone suggest that before. But its the only thing I could think of that would strike a layman as a 'printed Codex.'

The real question is why not post at least one photo and then the rumor dump?

Like he said he was willing to share photos, right?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 xttz wrote:
The original reddit post & account have now been deleted, so I'm not holding my breath for any proof.

Yeah just saw that.

We were never getting any pictures...

I’m sure he was just about to upload the pics when the ground underneath him opened up and he and all the pallets of codex, miniatures and molds were swallowed by the sewage pipe break.

Poor Honest Leaker.

Maybe the real Eldar codex was the friends we made along the way.

 GaroRobe wrote:
The real question is why not post at least one photo and then the rumor dump?

Like he said he was willing to share photos, right?

Yeah, I think that is the largest red flag beyond any of the content in the rumor.

Usually the rumormonger "can't post pics for risk of outing themselves or their friends". So the fact that this anonymous poster would offer that is suspicious to start.

However, if we wanted to play devil's advocate, the current 100% accurate rumor was posted on B&C only to be removed shortly after due to it "receiving too much attention".

Assuming it was a troll/faked, its a shame because it actually sounded exactly like what Eldar need. A refresh with added depth, I liked the other avatars, the Fireheart diorama, the sound of new guardians/corsairs and the dual build shining spears as the new level of exarch.
I'm not convinced the GW will go beyond reworking the classic units. Although I'm betting the Avatar will be based on the classic MG artwork form the second edition codex. Hopefully I'm underestimating GW, or the guy is genuine and had to take it down after his mate with the codex found out he had leaked it. Because if it was legit that guy would have been in big trouble with GW. [also aren't codex printed 2-3 months in advance of release? The codex existing is entirely possible]

 GaroRobe wrote:
The real question is why not post at least one photo and then the rumor dump?

Like he said he was willing to share photos, right?

It's possible that the individual was located in a link of the distribution chain where they dispose of damaged or defective product before warehousing things for general sale.

Or that it's tied to a translation/localization job.

I just spent 15$ and got the raging heroes patreon for November and downloaded an entire range refresh for Eldar. Tired of waiting for GW. Just gonna print a bunch of new badass proxy models. GW is a joke. Just waiting for the new rules but I won’t be buying any of their models. Overpriced

Voss wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
What this guy is suggesting he saw with full pictures and everything doesn't sound like any playtest document I've ever seen.

Well, he actually claimed it was the full printed codex:

I’ve seen the printed Codex Craftworlds back to back for about half an hour

But that just makes it less likely.
Now maybe GW secretly does 'advanced reader's copies' (like real publishers do for editing and reviews), but I've never seen anyone suggest that before. But its the only thing I could think of that would strike a layman as a 'printed Codex.'

Yeah, I saw that. That was kind of my point. Playtesters don't receive a "full printed codex" before it's released and definitely not before the book has even been announced.

It's funny how we ended up with 3 pages because of a "my uncle who works at Nintendo said..." post on Reddit.

 ScarletRose wrote:
It's funny how we ended up with 3 pages because of a "my uncle who works at Nintendo said..." post on Reddit.

We ended up with around triple that for a super secret squirrel "leak" that has so far been almost 100% accurate, so...things do happen.

For what it's worth, this is what Valrak commented on B&C about these rumors:

Valrak wrote:From what I know.



New Rangers

New Jetbikes with two people on them with cloaks

New HQ with a Melta Gun



Everything else in here could be true but I only trust certain sources.

Another person commented that the new Aeldari stuff(the Ranger jetbikes, Rangers, and a female Autarch with the meltagun) would be coming in a battlebox with the new Chaos Warpsmith, Chosen, and a non-new Forgefiend/Maulerfiend kit "early 2022".

Same person went on to comment that there's a Combat Patrol Aeldari set coming then featuring new Guardians, Jetbikes, Farseer, and a Wraithlord.

Kill Team, purportedly, is going to be a Corsairs set with a Warlock and Outcast/Ranger in it.

Given how recently they were done, I have a hard time believing anyone saying Guardian Jetbikes (or the Farseer/Warlock on Jetbike) are getting replaced.

 Dysartes wrote:
Given how recently they were done, I have a hard time believing anyone saying Guardian Jetbikes (or the Farseer/Warlock on Jetbike) are getting replaced.

For clarity's sake:

It's just the Guardians that are new in the rumored Combat Patrol set. Like how the Start Collecting Gravelords for AoS has the new Wight King.

Descriptions given of the "Ranger Jetbike" are that it's two-seats, like the Harlequin one.

 Dysartes wrote:
Given how recently they were done, I have a hard time believing anyone saying Guardian Jetbikes (or the Farseer/Warlock on Jetbike) are getting replaced.

I don't think any rumour said that. New two-man jetbikes sounds they're like replacing Vypers, whose current model is still from 1997(?)