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2023/01/09 17:13:46
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Looks neat, but it's a pass for me.
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2023/01/09 17:32:33
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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DeadliestIdiot wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Necroagogo wrote:I'm interested but the high buy-in level has me hesitant. Anybody have any suggestions for alternative terrain (no access to 3D printer, sadly)?
Getting the basic shape doesn’t seem too tricky as it’s all Right Angles, so foam core is your friend. Greeblies etc will depend on the depth of your Bitz box and that.
If you really want to go low budget just to get a feel for how much time/effort you want to dedicate to it, folding index cards to form a base and wall and then taping them together back-to-back should give you a taste. Would also mean you could start playing now and gradually build the actual terrain.
Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights.
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2023/01/09 17:39:23
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nevelon wrote: Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights. Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes.
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2023/01/09 18:13:54
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If there are some cool looking kill team sets I might end up with enough terrain to play this. However I think kill team (either edition) is probably a better way to play these small scale engagements.
The only advantage I could have seen to this being tied directly to 40k might have been as part of an escalating campaign but it doesn't fit in with crusade so that's out of the window.
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2023/01/09 18:38:15
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote:
Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights.
Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes.
I was thinking old wooden blocks. I had a set back in the day we dragged out and used for RT missions. Right up there with stacks of books for hills.
It would take a lot of legos to fill a decent sized table. Probably cheeper to just buy GW kits.
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2023/01/09 19:13:34
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nevelon wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote: Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights. Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes. I was thinking old wooden blocks. I had a set back in the day we dragged out and used for RT missions. Right up there with stacks of books for hills. It would take a lot of legos to fill a decent sized table. Probably cheeper to just buy GW kits. I was thinking more of the generic buckets full of Duplos or the bigger toddler blocks. Wooden blocks don't interlock and are prone to falling with table bumping.
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2023/01/09 19:52:12
Subject: Re:Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hero Quest has seen a new version a few years ago. It would have been nice to see Space Crusade again instead of a lame Boarding Action game.
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2023/01/09 21:39:07
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote:
Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights.
Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes.
I was thinking old wooden blocks. I had a set back in the day we dragged out and used for RT missions. Right up there with stacks of books for hills.
It would take a lot of legos to fill a decent sized table. Probably cheeper to just buy GW kits.
I was thinking more of the generic buckets full of Duplos or the bigger toddler blocks. Wooden blocks don't interlock and are prone to falling with table bumping.
There's also magnatiles. Those are pretty stable depending on the shapes you're making with them.
My kids have wooden blocks, magnatiles, duplos and legos. They're gonna build goddammit! Admittedly though, the wooden blocks are not as popular as the other materials.
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2023/01/09 21:48:31
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Nevelon wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote:
Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights.
Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes.
I was thinking old wooden blocks. I had a set back in the day we dragged out and used for RT missions. Right up there with stacks of books for hills.
It would take a lot of legos to fill a decent sized table. Probably cheeper to just buy GW kits.
Hirstarts and plaster of paris would also let you put together a cheap if fragile table. Also means it's fairly disposable.
Bit bland but you'd be able to smash out a board in a weekend. https://hirstarts.com/starfort/starfort.html#wall
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2023/01/09 22:50:32
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Plaster of paris would also be good for breach-able walls.
Model’s got a metla bomb and wants to make a new door?
(5 minutes with an icepick)
OK, these rooms are now connected!
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2023/01/09 23:01:36
Subject: Re:Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Strg Alt wrote:Hero Quest has seen a new version a few years ago. It would have been nice to see Space Crusade again instead of a lame Boarding Action game.
Space Crusade would fit the bill!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2023/01/09 23:10:56
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Nevelon wrote:
Plaster of paris would also be good for breach-able walls.
Model’s got a metla bomb and wants to make a new door?
(5 minutes with an icepick)
OK, these rooms are now connected!
immersive! A quick strike with a hammer would also do the job I suppose. You can even sprinkle around the rubble for rough terrain in the area.
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2023/01/09 23:34:31
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Either that or "Combat Patrol" rules, but we are of the same mind. Automatically Appended Next Post: cody.d. wrote: Nevelon wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Nevelon wrote:
Do kids these days still have sets of blocks? Your basic cut and sanded 2x4 chunks are perfect for hallway fights.
Lego is still the #1 selling toy company in the world with 8.7 billion USD in sales, so yes.
I was thinking old wooden blocks. I had a set back in the day we dragged out and used for RT missions. Right up there with stacks of books for hills.
It would take a lot of legos to fill a decent sized table. Probably cheeper to just buy GW kits.
Hirstarts and plaster of paris would also let you put together a cheap if fragile table. Also means it's fairly disposable.
Bit bland but you'd be able to smash out a board in a weekend. https://hirstarts.com/starfort/starfort.html#wall
I use Hirst arts. Obviously for more money, but you can make blocks that are a lot more durable using other mixing materials than Plaster of Paris. Having said that, Plaster of Paris does a good enough job for a time. Over time Plaster of Paris will get banged up and will need to be replaced, and I would not use it for a permanent piece, but I would not exactly call it disposable. I gave my FLGS a PofP building as a gift almost 15 years ago, and it lasted for a few years at least of active usage as a piece of terrain there. I have not checked if it is still in the store, but I would assume that it is ground down a bit to a ruin if it is still in service.
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2023/01/10 00:05:45
Subject: Re:Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Oh yeah if you wanna go durable go Dentalstone. I'm still gradually working my way through a bucket I got over a decade ago.
Usually the terrain survives for a long while, some I made and donated to a local FLGS is still in action after many years. Though needs the occasional bit of touchup when glue bonds fail.
Just offering quick, cheap and disposable options should people want them.
Another option is some foam and a textured roller. Saw a youtuber make good panel affects with such a method.
This would work nicely https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/modelling-textured-rolling-pins/740-rolling-pin-necronic.html Or this https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/modelling-textured-rolling-pins/515-rolling-pin-mesh.html
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2023/01/10 07:47:15
Subject: Re:Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Zero interest whatsoever. Requiring specific terrain in very specific layouts for each mission is a hard no, especially for a game that probably won't be supported by this time next year. Kill Team is everything this is trying and failing to be, and if I want a small 40k game I can play a normal 500-1000 point game on normal terrain.
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2023/01/10 12:58:20
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Hungry Ghoul
Germany
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Necroagogo wrote:I'm interested but the high buy-in level has me hesitant. Anybody have any suggestions for alternative terrain (no access to 3D printer, sadly)?
I got a bunch of TTCombats Iron labyrinth sets... It's MDF. Looks pretty good, is partially a bit difficult to assemble but otherwise not bad.
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2023/01/10 14:48:04
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Somerdale, NJ, USA
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pass, too costly
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2023/01/10 15:36:05
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Nasty Nob
Crescent City Fl..
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Necroagogo wrote:I'm interested but the high buy-in level has me hesitant. Anybody have any suggestions for alternative terrain (no access to 3D printer, sadly)?
I know there's been a few recommendations but I didn't see insolation foam sheet mentioned. I'd use 1/4 to 1/2 inch thickness. (Probably 4 inch tall walls?) You'd just need a ruler, box cutter and a marker minimum. And maybe tape for the corners but most white glue or thot glue is doable and maybe some pins of some kind for extra support, could be toothpicks would work. After that thin cardboard layered over if you wish for some extra details. You could have enough left over material to make more terrain or trad it off or what ever. Or, you could cut it into tile sections and put holes into it and add corresponding posts to your walls...
The whole set could be made in 4 or 5 days with drying time. The cost would be low aside from the time investment. Just don't spray paint over foam that hasn't been coated in card stock or glue and or texture. I use white glue and different textures of sand and some times dry wall spackle on my own foam base terrain. Works, looks good totally worth it. And you can always add more to it.
Hope you found this helpful.
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Sigh, Yet another doomed attempt by man to bridge the gap between the material and spiritual worlds |
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2023/01/10 15:45:20
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Sheppey, England
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Thanks for all the responses - definitely some avenues (corridors?) to explore!
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2023/01/10 16:06:29
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think part of the problem is things like corridors are not part of the regular 40k terrain setup, so it's not too likely most players will already own something suitable. Since the terrain is such an integral part of the system that presents a problem for anyone wanting to dip their toe in to see if they like it. Yes, I can grab some foamcore, lego, random blocks etc, but that's more effort than I'm willing to put in for what should be a simple enough game mode, especially when combined with the cost of the book itself.
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2023/01/10 16:51:42
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Slipspace wrote:I think part of the problem is things like corridors are not part of the regular 40k terrain setup, so it's not too likely most players will already own something suitable. Since the terrain is such an integral part of the system that presents a problem for anyone wanting to dip their toe in to see if they like it. Yes, I can grab some foamcore, lego, random blocks etc, but that's more effort than I'm willing to put in for what should be a simple enough game mode, especially when combined with the cost of the book itself.
I think this is a huge problem from a community stand point, there isn’t much a dedicated group isn’t or couldn’t all ready do with 40k.
And the buy in is expensive for what may not even last a year, and trusting GW to support anything into the next edition is sketchy.
If they had used 8th shake up better to lay a foundation to expand maybe.
With thoughtful writing you can have a mission system good for any edition, but I think GWs own tendency to make everything for right now, and cool hinders and staying power for these sorta things.
Even the narrative stuff I think is flat and boring, since it’s not really showing natural or interesting shifts of power.
Just super huge, the galaxy has changed, can it ever go back!
Eh, tired and let me thoughts run. GW makes me want to ignore it’s stuff and do other more fun things.
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2023/01/10 16:54:32
Subject: Re:Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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8th ed Apocalypse was a better idea than this honestly. And even that didnt last long even if the buy-in cost was minimal (and IMO the system was better than normal 40k was)
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2023/01/10 17:03:29
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Poisonous Kroot Headhunter
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I've really hyped for this. I've already got the terrain since I bought the KT boxes, so little extra expense for me and I planned on making a House Variant for boarding action campaigns anyway, so this saved me a lot of time.
So far, (having yet to play it) I only have 2 minor gripes. 1, list building can be a little restrictive to armies with low cost units, since you can't go past 10 models, it's actually hard to get it all into the force org for some factions without taking really specific units in each list. 2. Most factions with small characters got an exception to this, but I wish marines had been able to take a second character IF it was an Elite choice. I think units like the Judiciar or the Company Champion could really shine in this mode, but they essentially takes 2 Force Org slots, one in Elite and it also prevents you from taking an HQ, and that's just too restrictive for what they bring.
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2023/01/10 17:08:43
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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does anyone else feel that a game like this would be better served by card tile ala space hulk or is that a step backwards?
i know ill personally struggle moving figs around some of the tight confines of the hulk.
theres no multi level terrain right?
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2023/01/10 17:24:31
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Nasty Nob
Crescent City Fl..
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usernamesareannoying wrote:does anyone else feel that a game like this would be better served by card tile ala space hulk or is that a step backwards?
i know ill personally struggle moving figs around some of the tight confines of the hulk.
theres no multi level terrain right?
I very much agree! And even with that there would be little stopping players from jazzing it up. A WHQ group I follow on Fb has several people making easy to elaborate tiles for their games.
I do think GW thinks that would not be flashy enough to sell to younger players but I could be wrong. And I'd do tiles if it were me and upgrade as I felt like it. I can see this as a solid hobby project.
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Sigh, Yet another doomed attempt by man to bridge the gap between the material and spiritual worlds |
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2023/01/10 18:01:06
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Posts with Authority
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I'm kind of thinking this terrain will go OOP after Season 2 for KT21 finishes, so getting two KT21 boxes worth will be in my long term plan no doubt. They're spamming the kit too hard, as if they're sitting on a significant stock of these sprues and just need to flush it all quick, in order to make room for new things
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2023/01/10 18:46:13
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah, i'm definitely open to it. Pre-ordered the terrain as it'll be a good use in normal 40k here and there.
Small model count, simplified rules. I'm all for this for some quick games.
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2023/01/10 19:40:41
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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tauist wrote:I'm kind of thinking this terrain will go OOP after Season 2 for KT21 finishes, so getting two KT21 boxes worth will be in my long term plan no doubt. They're spamming the kit too hard, as if they're sitting on a significant stock of these sprues and just need to flush it all quick, in order to make room for new things
Eh. They made how many they make long time ago. These are cast specfically for these boxes.
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2023/01/10 19:46:38
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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tneva82 wrote: tauist wrote:I'm kind of thinking this terrain will go OOP after Season 2 for KT21 finishes, so getting two KT21 boxes worth will be in my long term plan no doubt. They're spamming the kit too hard, as if they're sitting on a significant stock of these sprues and just need to flush it all quick, in order to make room for new things
Eh. They made how many they make long time ago. These are cast specfically for these boxes.
I suspect the push now is to try to get people who were either KT or 40k only to crossover and try the other side.
Strike while the iron is hot to get the molds to pay for themselves while boarding actions are the thing to do.
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2023/01/10 23:19:46
Subject: Boarding Actions - Are you hype?
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Irked Necron Immortal
Sentient Void
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Necron player not interested because of overly restrictive troop choices. I will cannibalize anything that looks interesting from this and implement with OPR.
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