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Shame about no Celestine. I suppose they're probably resculpting her anyway though. They lost me by not having Inquisitor Lord Karamazov though. That was going to be the one model I was actually looking forward to buying, even at increased price. I regret ebaying my old one now.

Is it just me, or does this "finecast" look a lot like the resin FW already uses? i got a set of MK III amors last week and they look just like the pics GW is showing for the new stuff.

Probably. Forge World is owned by GW. It would make sense to use the same supplier.

baron deathnyx wrote:I they will be releasing the titans

I wouldnt go holding your breath on that one. People have been talking about GW selling titans for years, still nothing. Its wishful thinking.

Mad4Minis wrote:Is it just me, or does this "finecast" look a lot like the resin FW already uses?

You know that Forge World uses whatever resin they can get their hands on, right? That's why the quality is so bad when compared to other companies who make resin models. It's also why, if you go back through the years, FW models seem to be made of multiple different kinds of resin throughout the years (hint: because they have). There's no quality control because they use cheap stuff that they can get easily, there's no set standard of quality for what type of resin they use.

Regardless, Forge World has never used this material. It's a plastic/resin blend that's more like what the PP Warjacks are made of...or even the resin models from Raging Heroes.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2011/5/24/966cb5841ffb8eb6f4713ec9f1252e15_40490.jpg

There you are, said they'd be in sealed boxes you you can't see how pig ugly these resin sprues look.

You guys know whats the funniest thing with finecast?

Hypothetically speaking , IF the fine cast are made from newly sculpted molds. ( and not just using the old metal ones )

Why dont they remake them into what FW sculpts look like?

Because at the end of the day, even IF ( which im not seeing ) the details are crisper or w/e ....

its still the same ugly sculpts.................. what a wasted opportunity.... especially everyone can agree with liking the FW aesthetics way more , no contest.

Because GW has sculptors, who get paid and already have things on their plate to work on.

LunaHound wrote: especially everyone can agree with liking the FW aesthetics way more , no contest.

Actually ill disagree there, if given the choice between the FW greater demon of khorne and the gw greater daemon of khorne id go for the gw one purely on looks, its the model that made me start this plastic crack of a hobby. the fact it was metal was a real damper but since it will soon be resin i may finally be able to get another one since my painting skills have improved alot since my 1st one.

johnscott10 wrote:

LunaHound wrote: especially everyone can agree with liking the FW aesthetics way more , no contest.

Actually ill disagree there, if given the choice between the FW greater demon of khorne and the gw greater daemon of khorne id go for the gw one purely on looks, its the model that made me start this plastic crack of a hobby. the fact it was metal was a real damper but since it will soon be resin i may finally be able to get another one since my painting skills have improved alot since my 1st one.

I was referring to the scale of FW models , they look far more realistic without giant heads and giant hands

LunaHound wrote:

johnscott10 wrote:

LunaHound wrote: especially everyone can agree with liking the FW aesthetics way more , no contest.

Actually ill disagree there, if given the choice between the FW greater demon of khorne and the gw greater daemon of khorne id go for the gw one purely on looks, its the model that made me start this plastic crack of a hobby. the fact it was metal was a real damper but since it will soon be resin i may finally be able to get another one since my painting skills have improved alot since my 1st one.

I was referring to the scale of FW models , they look far more realistic without giant heads and giant hands

Oh scale wise then yea, they are more proportioned, so in that aspect then yea FW all the way haha. Aesthetics to me isnt just the proportions, but the look of the model as a whole. Not sure if aesthetics means something else to yous haha.

Darth Bob wrote:

Mad4Minis wrote:Is it just me, or does this "finecast" look a lot like the resin FW already uses?

Regardless, Forge World has never used this material. It's a plastic/resin blend that's more like what the PP Warjacks are made of...or even the resin models from Raging Heroes.

Didn't they hint they would be using a new sturdier resin with the FW resin RoB piece. FW might actually start using this resin after all.

And the FW Greater Deamon of Khorn is an awsome model. Have you looked at the detail up close?

Grimgob wrote:

Darth Bob wrote:

Mad4Minis wrote:Is it just me, or does this "finecast" look a lot like the resin FW already uses?

Regardless, Forge World has never used this material. It's a plastic/resin blend that's more like what the PP Warjacks are made of...or even the resin models from Raging Heroes.

Didn't they hint they would be using a new sturdier resin with the FW resin RoB piece. FW might actually start using this resin after all.

And the FW Greater Deamon of Khorn is an awsome model. Have you looked at the detail up close?

We can only hope that Forge World actually develops a standard for the resin they use. But I'm just saying that up to this point FW has never used the material Finecast uses; though I would love to see them do it in the future.

Darth Bob wrote:

Grimgob wrote:

Darth Bob wrote:

Mad4Minis wrote:Is it just me, or does this "finecast" look a lot like the resin FW already uses?

Regardless, Forge World has never used this material. It's a plastic/resin blend that's more like what the PP Warjacks are made of...or even the resin models from Raging Heroes.

Didn't they hint they would be using a new sturdier resin with the FW resin RoB piece. FW might actually start using this resin after all.

And the FW Greater Deamon of Khorn is an awsome model. Have you looked at the detail up close?

We can only hope that Forge World actually develops a standard for the resin they use. But I'm just saying that up to this point FW has never used the material Finecast uses; though I would love to see them do it in the future.

I doubt they can, I suspect that the Finecast resin is probably best suited for spin-casting so wouldn't work too well in FW's antiquated gravity moulds - I would love to be wrong though!

In some ways I like GW's hero proportion models, but I will admit that the more realistically proportioned FW IG look much better on the gaming table (and make my Marines look bigger!)

I can't believe someone here actually likes the regular GW greater demons. Personally, I would feel embarrased using them in an army as the models are just so bad...

Sanjay

The Lord of Change isn't that bad.

A finecast review with pics:

http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/2011/05/citadel-finecast.html

Resin instead of metal, get ready for a massive price increase!

Exactly as I expected, and what was pretty much confirmed yesterday when the pics started coming out. It's the same damn crap but with a higher price tag and in a more fragile material.

I really hope no one is buying all this hype and seriously believes what GW is saying, that these are not only of superior quality and detail but the most detailed resin miniatures ever produced by any company in the wooooorld!!!!11

I'm a bit disapointed because these are packed with flash and mouldlines, I think their metals was progressing into more discreet mouldlines and very few flash but these resins are a step back on that direction. Its like something you would expect from FW.

Having worked with Alkemy Resin/plastic miniatures were the mouldlines are almost non existant, you had no flash and every mini was already cutted off sprues I would espect that GW at least would equal or do a better job at that since its been done better elsewere for a few years back now.

Maybe these are WIP's and next releases will have a better quality control on these casts.

The cost increase is nothing to moan about - when I started painting miniatures Citadel charged 3 for a pound!

What is at issue is the quality; switching to a cheaper material, using the exact same moulds and then upping the price while telling everyone how superior the new minatures are is a shallow and, frankly, quite insulting marketing exercise.

I withhold judgement on the figures themselves until I see one in the flesh - I might attempt my local GW store at the weekend if I can force my way past all the annoying kids (ie the ones that work there).

I think the plus side that you really have to consider is the future models that will be in finecase.

Imagine how amazing the SoB and Chaos Marine ranges will look when they are upgraded from awful 2nd edition models to Finecast which, when combined with sculpts made for Finecast, will be a vast improvement.

NAVARRO wrote:Maybe these are WIP's and next releases will have a better quality control on these casts.

It's a pity we've all sworn off GW purchases, as a rolling review thread on Saturday would have been good.

ph34r wrote:I think the plus side that you really have to consider is the future models that will be in finecase.

Imagine how amazing the SoB and Chaos Marine ranges will look when they are upgraded from awful 2nd edition models to Finecast which, when combined with sculpts made for Finecast, will be a vast improvement.

For that they would have to be upgraded one day

NAVARRO wrote:A finecast review with pics:

http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/2011/05/citadel-finecast.html

He certainly won't be carving his name into any more Primarchs with that much flash...

That's a lot of flash, it's a good job resin is soft because you're going to be doing a fair bit of cleaning. Remember these are "the best quality miniatures in the world" and they look like someone's back kitchen job. I can't think of another company that puts figures on the market in this condition.

No wonder they hide it in a box rather than in a blister. Some of those tags look a little tricky to remove where they attach onto the shoulderpad (marked in red). And what are those strange protuberances coming from various parts of the figure (in yellow).

Heck, that is a lot of cleaning up to do! And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for mold lines! Their miniatures are great, but that's a lot of extra crap to be claiming it's best in the world.
Also, Draigo's chest says "sword"?!

Given the most recent pic( and the crap loads of flash) im not surprised that people are annoyed.

However the bits marked in yellow above are just other vents that have been added to the mold, I did read it somewhere that more had to be added.

The way I see it is since they make you clean up the model more it takes you longer to actually buy another.

So it saves you money and they get less profot, win win situation.

Just Dave wrote:Heck, that is a lot of cleaning up to do! And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for mold lines! Their miniatures are great, but that's a lot of extra crap to be claiming it's best in the world.
Also, Draigo's chest says "sword"?!

Seeing it together with the other side make more sense.

The other side says "Killy."

Scottywan82 wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Heck, that is a lot of cleaning up to do! And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for mold lines! Their miniatures are great, but that's a lot of extra crap to be claiming it's best in the world.
Also, Draigo's chest says "sword"?!

Seeing it together with the other side make more sense.

The other side says "Killy."

That'd work for me. I assume the other side does say something, but what would it say to not make it sound stupid?!