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Apparently, Obama's speech tonight was a giant slap in the face to ISIL. So apparently this is a definite declaration of war. What do you guys think? Any concerns?

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SirSertile wrote:
Apparently, Obama's speech tonight was a giant slap in the face to ISIL. So apparently this is a definite declaration of war. What do you guys think? Any concerns?



Plenty of real ones, but let's keep it light.

when one of the countries you labeled as the new axis of evil is on your side, you might want to rethink your actions.

Just sayin.

 
   
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SirSertile wrote:
Apparently, Obama's speech tonight was a giant slap in the face to ISIL. So apparently this is a definite declaration of war. What do you guys think? Any concerns?



Plenty of real ones, but let's keep it light.

when one of the countries you labeled as the new axis of evil is on your side, you might want to rethink your actions.

Just sayin.


Obama and Bush are different people. There are several subtle ways to tell, including the fact that Obama is a black democrat from Chicago, while Bush is a white republican from Texas.

And do you seriously think we should support ISIS just to spite Iran, or are you just trying to be snarky?
   
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I would assume we'd consider Iraq becoming Taliban Afghanistan 2.0 to be a rather bad thing. Maybe should do something bout that, idk.

   
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 LoneLictor wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
SirSertile wrote:
Apparently, Obama's speech tonight was a giant slap in the face to ISIL. So apparently this is a definite declaration of war. What do you guys think? Any concerns?



Plenty of real ones, but let's keep it light.

when one of the countries you labeled as the new axis of evil is on your side, you might want to rethink your actions.

Just sayin.


Obama and Bush are different people. There are several subtle ways to tell, including the fact that Obama is a black democrat from Chicago, while Bush is a white republican from Texas.

And do you seriously think we should support ISIS just to spite Iran, or are you just trying to be snarky?


That seems to be the only difference between the two really, Obama and Bush are the same when it comes to waging wars, and spying.

You already supported ISIS, McCain sure seems buddy buddy with them. Had a nice photoshoot with them and everything.

I never said you should support ISIS, I said you need to rethink what you are about to do and think it through for once. come up with an exit strategy for a change. come up with a long term plan, not just bomb them and see what happens.

 
   
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McCain knew those individuals were to become part of ISIS a year later?!?!?

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 Jihadin wrote:
McCain knew those individuals were to become part of ISIS a year later?!?!?


he was arguing 2 years ago that he wanted to arm ISIS:

http://lybio.net/busted-mccain-slips-up-and-reveals-us-wanted-to-arm-isis/news-politics/
Already the meeting in the White House, over two years ago, everyone in the national security team recommended arming Isis.

 
   
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sirlynchmob wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
McCain knew those individuals were to become part of ISIS a year later?!?!?


he was arguing 2 years ago that he wanted to arm ISIS:

http://lybio.net/busted-mccain-slips-up-and-reveals-us-wanted-to-arm-isis/news-politics/
Already the meeting in the White House, over two years ago, everyone in the national security team recommended arming Isis.


So was Hillary Clinton

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You do realize there were other groups in Syria besides ISIS, right? The Free Syrian Army was a pretty significant force that was seeing some success, and was mostly a moderate, secular militia fighting against Assad. But since nobody did anything to support them, they saddled up with some of the more extremist groups in the country for lack of other allies. At this point they've actually fought against ISIS in some areas as well. It's not like the only two options were siding with ISIS or siding with Assad, there are more than two factions operating in Syria, and two years ago, ISIS wasn't yet the most powerful anti-Assad group.

   
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Personally, despite having been very strongly against most of our military foreign actions for the last decade+ (I thought the Iraq war was a senseless tragedy built on a premise of lies and the Afghanistan conflict a mismanaged exercise in wasting lives and money) I have few problems with any military action against ISIS. These are people who genuinely deserve to die, and are, or intend to become (by their own admission), a threat anyone who isn't them.

That said, their videos probably have the best combat action footage I've ever seen.




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Congress is now on the hook along with Obama on how ISIS gets crushed (or attempt to crush)

Those we're using as our "Boots on the Ground" I wonder how long they are going to resent the fact that we're using them as our proxy

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No other way to stop them. And if they're targeting Americans, they should expect to get their asses kicked. Drones, Missiles, or Boots, either way they'll get whats coming to them.

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 Jihadin wrote:
Congress is now on the hook along with Obama on how ISIS gets crushed (or attempt to crush)

Those we're using as our "Boots on the Ground" I wonder how long they are going to resent the fact that we're using them as our proxy


Did congress vote on it already? that was amazingly fast.

 
   
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sirlynchmob wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
Congress is now on the hook along with Obama on how ISIS gets crushed (or attempt to crush)

Those we're using as our "Boots on the Ground" I wonder how long they are going to resent the fact that we're using them as our proxy


Did congress vote on it already? that was amazingly fast.


Dem's and Repub's are going to vote "No"? Both sides of the aisle wanted escalation of force against ISIS.

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I found it quite ironic that Obama called with the king of Saudi Arabia for advice on ISIS. But then again, if Obama wants to fight against guys who behead people for 'sorcery', destroy cultural heritage, and grant no rights to women, he might as well ask for advice from a guy who beheads people for 'sorcery', destroys cultural heritage, and grants no rights to women. Right?

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Two things:

One, this is bs.

Two, war. LoL. Right, because THAT'LL happen. Country had a chance at work thirteen years ago and they fething that up. This simply more crap that doesn't actually mean anything.

Note: The only these people understand is violence, not peace or talking, simply violence. Stop announcing what we're going to do on the news, call up Seal Team 6 and task them with annihilating these assclowns from existence.

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On the other hand, war is indeed very lucrative. At the end it doesn't really matter who wins, as long as the fighting and spending continues.

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Not our fight. This is why they keep attacking us.

Stay out of it.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Not our fight. This is why they keep attacking us.

Stay out of it.


They'll keep attacking us either way, and they kill our citizens and allies while disrupting our trade, so it is a little our fight it just. It isn't as dramatic as flying planes into buildings, but we are under attack. I know isolationism seems like a simple answer but it rarely makes things better, and often makes it worse long term. The problem isn't usually that we shouldn't get involved but the extent and nature of that involvement, which is when things get tricky.

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Hmm, maybe next year we'll give them new weapons when they're fighting some regime we're not too fond of...

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 LoneLictor wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
SirSertile wrote:
Apparently, Obama's speech tonight was a giant slap in the face to ISIL. So apparently this is a definite declaration of war. What do you guys think? Any concerns?



Plenty of real ones, but let's keep it light.

when one of the countries you labeled as the new axis of evil is on your side, you might want to rethink your actions.

Just sayin.


Obama and Bush are different people. There are several subtle ways to tell, including the fact that Obama is a black democrat from Chicago, while Bush is a white republican from Texas.


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Attacking them while our borders are open is an invitation to disaster. There are already reports of plans to cross from the South and launch attacks.

Sorry but Islamic terrorism has been occurring for a thousand years. Even the Ottomans had to deal with it.

What will happen is we will bomb them. The countries with skin in the game bordering them will continue to do...nothing.

Sorry I'm too old a bunny. I've seen this Tv show like four times already.

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 Malika2 wrote:
I found it quite ironic that Obama called with the king of Saudi Arabia for advice on ISIS. But then again, if Obama wants to fight against guys who behead people for 'sorcery', destroy cultural heritage, and grant no rights to women, he might as well ask for advice from a guy who beheads people for 'sorcery', destroys cultural heritage, and grants no rights to women. Right?


It's almost as if political leaders engage in politics.

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Apparently SBS in Australia is delaying the launch of Season 2 of Danger 5 because of ISIS, so now we know the true cost of all this.

Spoiler:
Dear Fans of Danger 5,

It is with our deepest disappointment and sadness that we announce a decision has been made to delay the broadcast of Danger 5 Series 2 on SBS. This is due to unforeseen international news events and the recent ISIS actions and it’s felt in the current climate the series might not be received in the comedic spirit in which it was created.

Unfortunately this delay is completely out of our control and the entire team at Danger 5 and Dinosaur are truly devastated.

At this stage we're unaware of when Series 2 will air, but as soon as we do, you will be the first to know.

We hope that you will stick by us until this time as we do everything we can to show you what has taken the entire team thousands of hours of hard work, sweat and a few tears.

So, in the interest of making the anticipation unbearable, we will share with you (TONIGHT at 7.30pm Thursday 11 September AEST) the Official Trailer for Danger 5 Series 2.

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 Ahtman wrote:
Apparently SBS in Australia is delaying the launch of Season 2 of Danger 5 because of ISIS, so now we know the true cost of all this.

Spoiler:
Dear Fans of Danger 5,

It is with our deepest disappointment and sadness that we announce a decision has been made to delay the broadcast of Danger 5 Series 2 on SBS. This is due to unforeseen international news events and the recent ISIS actions and it’s felt in the current climate the series might not be received in the comedic spirit in which it was created.

Unfortunately this delay is completely out of our control and the entire team at Danger 5 and Dinosaur are truly devastated.

At this stage we're unaware of when Series 2 will air, but as soon as we do, you will be the first to know.

We hope that you will stick by us until this time as we do everything we can to show you what has taken the entire team thousands of hours of hard work, sweat and a few tears.

So, in the interest of making the anticipation unbearable, we will share with you (TONIGHT at 7.30pm Thursday 11 September AEST) the Official Trailer for Danger 5 Series 2.

We will be back to kill Hitler once and for all.

Love, the D5 team


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That's a synopsis of an episode. How have I not seen this.

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Wo, now thats a TV show!

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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Did anyone else hear that noise? It sounded like a tired paper tiger trying to bypass a bunch of people on a hill, in order to attack a poisonous, angry octopus, while simultaneously drawing down the strength it its claws. It was a very frightening sound.

Heh... the hypocrisy is galling...

A) I'm waiting for Democrats to push Obama to get UN approval...

B) I'm waiting for an actual Declaration of War and/or Congressional Authorizations...

C) I'm waiting for Democrats to hammer Obama for "going at it alone", with his 9-nation coalition (Bush had 40+ nations)...

D) The schadenfreude is especially delicious.

*I don't mind "going to War to destroy ISIS"... I just want the following:
1) Have a real fething plan with clear objectives
2) What is "victory"?
3) What's the exit strategy?
4) Then, have Congress vote on it clearly.

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 gorgon wrote:
 Malika2 wrote:
I found it quite ironic that Obama called with the king of Saudi Arabia for advice on ISIS. But then again, if Obama wants to fight against guys who behead people for 'sorcery', destroy cultural heritage, and grant no rights to women, he might as well ask for advice from a guy who beheads people for 'sorcery', destroys cultural heritage, and grants no rights to women. Right?


It's almost as if political leaders engage in politics.


Definitely, but then again, it makes you wonder how 'real' all of this becomes. The US wants to fight against a group that does all these horrible things by maintaining alliances with regimes that do exactly the same thing, which kinda shows that maybe all these horrible things aren't that relevant, it's only relevant who is the one carrying them out.

In other words: everything's fine kids, our leaders are playing their silly games again, don't take them too seriously please!

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