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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm not crazy, am I? The Macrocarid Explorator isn't there, right?

Legacy unit PDF probably. No mini no rules again.

I’m with HBMC, I have a Macrocarid and very lovely it is too. Possible omission of that, Ordinatus Saggitar, Peltasts and Hoplites is odd, albeit some cannot physically be purchased at present. If they’re in the pdf I guess it’s ok…but why is there an Arlatax entry when I don’t think that ever had a sculpt released?

Yes, people used to proxy Domitars as they look ace

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With the new edition dropping in a week would that be a good time for starting a new thread?

New threads don't seem to be affected by the blank page bug, which is getting a little annoying now.
   
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Warwickscire

 xttz wrote:
With the new edition dropping in a week would that be a good time for starting a new thread?

New threads don't seem to be affected by the blank page bug, which is getting a little annoying now.


Probably a good idea - I'll PM a mod
   
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feugan wrote:
I’m with HBMC, I have a Macrocarid and very lovely it is too. Possible omission of that, Ordinatus Saggitar, Peltasts and Hoplites is odd, albeit some cannot physically be purchased at present. If they’re in the pdf I guess it’s ok…but why is there an Arlatax entry when I don’t think that ever had a sculpt released?

Yes, people used to proxy Domitars as they look ace

Skitarii aren't actually in the Mechanicum list, rather Secutarii Titan Guard are instead. Peltasts and Hoplites will be in the Titanicus section of the rules.
   
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chaos0xomega wrote:

The idea that BaC and BoP were attempts at breaking into the board game market was a bad take, those were not "board gamers board games" and everything about them from the contents and the minis, to the not particularly great rules, to the marketing around it was built around the idea of pushing plastic to miniatures gamers with an eye towards lowering barriers to entry into 30k.

To be fair that confusion came about because Calth did have great rules.
   
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deano2099 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:

The idea that BaC and BoP were attempts at breaking into the board game market was a bad take, those were not "board gamers board games" and everything about them from the contents and the minis, to the not particularly great rules, to the marketing around it was built around the idea of pushing plastic to miniatures gamers with an eye towards lowering barriers to entry into 30k.

To be fair that confusion came about because Calth did have great rules.


Ahhh good times when they still had that last one game dev who had some professional pride (and worked off the clock if he had to so GW wouldn't publish a turd with his name on it)

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:

The idea that BaC and BoP were attempts at breaking into the board game market was a bad take, those were not "board gamers board games" and everything about them from the contents and the minis, to the not particularly great rules, to the marketing around it was built around the idea of pushing plastic to miniatures gamers with an eye towards lowering barriers to entry into 30k.

To be fair that confusion came about because Calth did have great rules.


Ahhh good times when they still had that last one game dev who had some professional pride (and worked off the clock if he had to so GW wouldn't publish a turd with his name on it)


You cand to that only for so long until any drive you had has been grinded to dust, though.
   
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Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.

So dig me a grave where I can rave and scribble for all time
Dig me a grave where I can vent articulate splenetic rhyme
Dig me a grave where I can nurture a hatred most sublime
For the fools who made this mess and think it not a crime 
   
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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.
Most don't, but some of the authors identify themselves on social media.
   
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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.


They don't want people attacking designers online so they stopped naming them.
   
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Bradeh wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.


They don't want people attacking designers online so they stopped naming them.


That might be a small part of it, but I beleive there's more to it than that.

No more "Andy Chambers"/"Jervis Johnson"/Known People or something similar...maybe?

   
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Let's not do this again.
   
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 Gert wrote:
Let's not do this again.


This thread has been nothing BUT "Let's not do this again"....lol



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deano2099 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:

The idea that BaC and BoP were attempts at breaking into the board game market was a bad take, those were not "board gamers board games" and everything about them from the contents and the minis, to the not particularly great rules, to the marketing around it was built around the idea of pushing plastic to miniatures gamers with an eye towards lowering barriers to entry into 30k.

To be fair that confusion came about because Calth did have great rules.

Burning had some great rules apparently as well.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Bradeh wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.


They don't want people attacking designers online so they stopped naming them.


That might be a small part of it, but I beleive there's more to it than that.

No more "Andy Chambers"/"Jervis Johnson"/Known People or something similar...maybe?


eh I doubt it, I really do think it related to the hate, consider some of the hate leveled at Matt Ward. If we found out the guy was getting death threats or something would anyone really be suprised?

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He got death threats?

Dude... and Robbin Cruddace is worst than him...

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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

I've gotten likely hundreds of death threats for posting random innocuous things online and beating people on xbox in games and I'm nobody. Just "getting" one doesn't mean anything when any dumb 12 year old who doesn't know any better (or older person who does) can spit them out relatively anonymously with no consequence. Now a credible one with a plan of action and actual knowledge of the receiver is a different story but that's almost never the case other than with stalkers. I'm not excusing it but rather pointing out that the mere existence of rando idiots on the internet spurging out isn't a particular cause for alarm and handwringing when it's been an unfortunate and regrettable part of online "life" since the beginning.

But this conversion in response to the cheesy initial Eldar codex in 3e was gold. It's comedy gold, Jerry! None of this cut out and paste MSPaint humor the lazy kids do nowadays but rather a fully converted phsyical legal in game model. Farseer Gav, you'll always have a spot in my 40k nostalgia right next to rhino rush and sweeping advances.

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We Munch for Macragge! FOR THE EMPRUH! Cheesesticks and Humus!
 
   
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Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...
   
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 Gert wrote:
Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...


Back on topic.

Magnus did nothing wrong.

Discuss.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Bradeh wrote:
 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Do GW rulebooks even credit designers anymore? I seem to recall they're now all by "The design team" so no named human beings are responsible anymore.


They don't want people attacking designers online so they stopped naming them.


That might be a small part of it, but I beleive there's more to it than that.

No more "Andy Chambers"/"Jervis Johnson"/Known People or something similar...maybe?


You can read articles in WD with photos of the guys and gals (and see them on Twitch, Youtube, WH+ etc.). Nothing has changed, except the credits in rulebooks, codices etc. .


Well, regarding the Mechanicum list: I expected that the Ordinatus Sagittar (the one I have, of course) isn't in. I wonder what happend to it. Same with this fellow (I also own...):

   
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 Togusa wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...


Back on topic.

Magnus did nothing wrong.

Discuss.


Well. He objectively didn’t.

He had no way of knowing exactly what he was dealing with. He was Book Smart. Which is not, for want of a better term, Street Smart. And a good chunk of that was The Emperor’s doing. If not all of it.

Remember that pre-Heresy, pre-Prospero Burns, Thousand Son Sorcerors had what we would now definitively call Daemonic Familiars as pets.

Had The Emperor pointed that out? Just taken Magnus alone aside and said “Son, I know you mean well. But don’t go dealing with those. At all. They seem harmless enough but they’re really, really, really not. They’re Daemons. They’re erring dangerous. They work for beings that call themselves Gods, but aren’t actually Gods, because there are no Gods. Incredibly, near incomprehensibly powerful beings, sure. But they’re also completely pants on head, hatstand, box of frogs, Roger Irrelevant insane and you can’t treat with them because they are beyond comprehension, and I’ll know if you even try because of course I will and if you do I’ll tan your arse. I’ll also tan your arse if you don’t keep this between thee and me. Alright?”.

And when he did what he did? He was bearing the gravest of tidings. But The Emperor just…didn’t listen. Sure, his actions wrecked a super important project - which again, The Emperor singularly refused to, y’know, tell anyone about. Because Reasons.

You cannot be blamed for breaking something you knew nothing about.

Example? I have you round my house for a lovely cup of tea. Mmm. Lovely tea. I usher you into the front room like a good host, then go to make the tea. Upon my return, I find you sitting upon the sofa bed. But it’s not just any sofa bed. For I am in fact Charles Saatchi, and that sofa bed is in fact “art” made by Tracey Emin that time she visited for a lovely cup of tea, and dropped her guts on it. But now your dirty heretic naughty boy Bumcheeks just disturbed that very cushion and now it’s frankly worthless. Nevermind I never bloody told you most of that scenario? I’m going to have to tan your arse for it. And maybe so.

Also no. I’m not really Charles Saatchi. You can tell because I have at least some sense of good taste.

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

H.B.M.C, 27 July 2022. Suddenly the Chaos Codex doesn't seem so bad.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also no. I’m not really Charles Saatchi. You can tell because I have at least some sense of good taste.


Your story is disturbingly too detailed to be fully a lie, there must be some truth to it...
   
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I’ve seen some of Tracey Emin’s “art”.\

Art, for art’s sake.

Modern Art, for fern’s sake.

Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?

H.B.M.C, 27 July 2022. Suddenly the Chaos Codex doesn't seem so bad.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...


Back on topic.

Magnus did nothing wrong.

Discuss.


Well. He objectively didn’t.

He had no way of knowing exactly what he was dealing with. He was Book Smart. Which is not, for want of a better term, Street Smart. And a good chunk of that was The Emperor’s doing. If not all of it.

Remember that pre-Heresy, pre-Prospero Burns, Thousand Son Sorcerors had what we would now definitively call Daemonic Familiars as pets.

Had The Emperor pointed that out? Just taken Magnus alone aside and said “Son, I know you mean well. But don’t go dealing with those. At all. They seem harmless enough but they’re really, really, really not. They’re Daemons. They’re erring dangerous. They work for beings that call themselves Gods, but aren’t actually Gods, because there are no Gods. Incredibly, near incomprehensibly powerful beings, sure. But they’re also completely pants on head, hatstand, box of frogs, Roger Irrelevant insane and you can’t treat with them because they are beyond comprehension, and I’ll know if you even try because of course I will and if you do I’ll tan your arse. I’ll also tan your arse if you don’t keep this between thee and me. Alright?”.

And when he did what he did? He was bearing the gravest of tidings. But The Emperor just…didn’t listen. Sure, his actions wrecked a super important project - which again, The Emperor singularly refused to, y’know, tell anyone about. Because Reasons.

You cannot be blamed for breaking something you knew nothing about.

Example? I have you round my house for a lovely cup of tea. Mmm. Lovely tea. I usher you into the front room like a good host, then go to make the tea. Upon my return, I find you sitting upon the sofa bed. But it’s not just any sofa bed. For I am in fact Charles Saatchi, and that sofa bed is in fact “art” made by Tracey Emin that time she visited for a lovely cup of tea, and dropped her guts on it. But now your dirty heretic naughty boy Bumcheeks just disturbed that very cushion and now it’s frankly worthless. Nevermind I never bloody told you most of that scenario? I’m going to have to tan your arse for it. And maybe so.

Also no. I’m not really Charles Saatchi. You can tell because I have at least some sense of good taste.


on the other hand if you told us specificly to "not sit down" and we sat down and broke something then yes we where in the wrong

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...


Back on topic.

Magnus did nothing wrong.

Discuss.


You cannot be blamed for breaking something you knew nothing about.


He used human sacrifice to break down an anti-daemon ward so he could use a daemon to send a message. After explicitly being told not to use sorcery.
All three of those are explicitly bad things that he definitely knew about and went ahead and did anyway. And no, not knowing about the webway project in particular is not an excuse; Terra is the most critical location in the imperium even without it. Deliberately attacking the planetary defences is treason regardless of additional secret projects.

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I thought at that point the Thousand Sons/Magnus were still naive and didn't believe in daemons?

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Cairo, Egypt

 Togusa wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Why talk about HH when you could just go completely off topic...


Back on topic.

Magnus did nothing wrong.

Discuss.


Magnus was a f'ing zoomer who had no idea how to use a bloody fax machine so had to use that new fangled sorcery stuff to call his dad and woke him up from his nap.

Magnus deserved everything he got and more.

Daddy did nothing wrong.

 
   
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netherlands

If you make your son a sorserrer and then forbid him to use his powers you need to epext trouble. The emperor could have trusted his sons more and then he would not be forced to go to the chaos gods.

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full compagny of bloodangels,
5000 pnt imperial guard
5000 pnt orks
2500 pnt grey knights
5000 pnt gsc
5000 pnts Chaos legionars
4000 pnt tyranids
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Then he wouldn't get them kill each other at right time making things more complicated. Killing all marines is trickier than killing remnants after they have grinded each other to cripple.

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 skeleton wrote:
If you make your son a sorserrer and then forbid him to use his powers you need to epext trouble. The emperor could have trusted his sons more and then he would not be forced to go to the chaos gods.

Sorcery is not psykery. Magnus was an extremely potent psyker, somewhere between Malcador and the Emperor himself in potential. He had zero need to treat with daemons for more power or knowledge but did it anyway.

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